VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

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Here we go again...

Of course there is always someone who talks without even giving it a single thought and jumping to the worst conclusion there is. So i'll give you a piece of my mind since you're obviously missing some.

Oceanlab is currently working on two games, WIAB and Summer's Gone. He works non-stop , cooking renders 12 hours every day. Two updates of Summer's Gone had been released so far since the release of the old chapter 0.6 while he has been working on the reworked chapter one.

WIAB is Ocean's first game ever. He was inexperienced , lacked some essential skills and was at the dawn of his 3D rendering ability when he started to develop WIAB. So yeah, he made a lot of mistakes and he is fixing them.

As you can see , the dev's skills have been improved to a great extent throughout all these chapters. He picked up all those skills while developing Summer's Gone which had inevitably changed things for WIAB and opened another door that needed to be entered for the sake of this game's and his other planned project's future.

The old chapters are being reworked because there has been made a huge amount of changes on how the story and the plot progresses. That's right it is rewritten. All the events are set in a whole different level now with 99 % new contents including the ones that got removed in the old chapters because of the inability of his old equipment to render those well surrounded backgrounds.

This game is the foundation of all his other planned games including Summer's Gone (They all happen in the same universe and connected). That's why it is necessary for it to be reworked.

The 1st chapter is always the tough one. Since you are starting from the very beginning, you'll have to create new places and backgrounds(what a drag that one is) and refine and define the old models. When you have finally managed to establish a base, the rest becomes easy. The 1st chapter is almost cooked and the tables are being set as we speak.

Not just that , if my memory serves me right , Oceanlab mentioned that the reworked 1st chapter is twice as big as the old chapter 1 (0.1). And it has so much insight that you can find in the old first two chapters alone. It'll be totally worth it.

I can't explain to you in a much clearer way...If this is still not enough of an explanation for you, you can wait till Oceanlab give one right after the update.

ah. i didn't know he worked on summer's gone...he should definitely stick with that instead, its his best work.

 

[endriux]

it's really worth waiting for the update. Believe me.

 

[Deleted member 404751]

Even though she is out of focus, Helen remains my favourite and I basically follow this project just for her.

On a different note: man, I'm getting old! I remember I used to play this game from Day 1..

 

[Dragon59]

so almost two years of no update just rambling naruto-filler "update jabber" is okay? sounds like someone is squeezing the lemon...literally

Literally? You could hear the sound of someone literally squeezing a literal lemon? If so, the sound is probably coming from someone nearby, not the dev.

If, on the other hand, you are stalking the dev close enough to hear the sound of a lemon being squeezed, you should stop and go home.

 

[fea876]

Even though she is out of focus, Helen remains my favourite and I basically follow this project just for her.

On a different note: man, I'm getting old! I remember I used to play this game from Day 1..

Same here, the way she looked at the MC while the aunt was flirting with him, heart breaking.

 

[Euron13]

Helen’s the Boba Fett of this game. Very little screentime, but adored by the fans.

Sucks that we probably won’t see any substantial content with her for a few years.

 

[Dragon59]

Helen’s the Boba Fett of this game. Very little screentime, but adored by the fans.

Sucks that we probably won’t see any substantial content with her for a few years.

So when can we expect to see "The Book of Helen?"

 

[Euron13]

So when can we expect to see "The Book of Helen?"

About as long as it took them to follow up Return of the Jedi...

 

[D9074]

Like the others said the reworked chapters have new storyline with totally different plots....the dev said a while back that the old chapters were a disease full of nothing but mistakes every left and right , now he is undoing those mistakes by remaking the old chapters so that it would connect acceptably to Summer's Gone.

The fact the dev thinks that of this games makes me think the rework will be amazing. I remember playing this game first time and being excited to carry on, it was a good story. I love SG too and the animations in that game was clearly another level so if he wants to rework its fine by me.

People get very selfish on here and only think of themselves or pretend to care about others that support it. No one is forced to support anyone and no dev is forced to update a game by your time frame. The best games on this site take a while, they are run by small groups of people at the most and usually just 1 or 2 people.. Have patience and enjoy your free content.

 

[Qwert99]

People get very selfish on here and only think of themselves or pretend to care about others that support it. No one is forced to support anyone and no dev is forced to update a game by your time frame. The best games on this site take a while, they are run by small groups of people at the most and usually just 1 or 2 people.. Have patience and enjoy your free content.

Or they just realise that the dev's ridiculously dumb "30 chapters planned lmao" plan is laughable at best and blatant lies at worst when it's taking this long just to produce 1 chapter where you don't even have to write all the script from scratch.

 

[D9074]

Or they just realise that the dev's ridiculously dumb "30 chapters planned lmao" plan is laughable at best and blatant lies at worst when it's taking this long just to produce 1 chapter where you don't even have to write all the script from scratch.

I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt, i don't know what they go through day to day in life or what they face.. End of the day they give us all games to play for free, they put in 1000s of hours making games and everyone has their own standards when it comes to things they make. To me it seems like the person is just a perfectionist and at the end of the day wants their games to be the best they can put out. if the guy didnt give a fuck he would of just left this game as it is and wrapped it up, not done a whole rework to tie it into other games he is making. Only he knows the bigger picture at the end of the day and the storys ive seen so far im just looking forward to seeing how it works out.

 

[rerderrum]

Or they just realise that the dev's ridiculously dumb "30 chapters planned lmao" plan is laughable at best and blatant lies at worst when it's taking this long just to produce 1 chapter where you don't even have to write all the script from scratch.

You do realise that he doesn't want to develop alone forever? Just think how much faster the development with two 160hour a month employes would go? This is also one reason he wants to switch to Blender, because there are many professionals working with it on a freelance basis compared to DAZ. Also the script changed apparently around >95% so no script. And he is still producing >50 still renders a day which is way more than most do and at that quality? There is no one.

 

[LuciferPrometheus]

You do realise that he doesn't want to develop alone forever? Just think how much faster the development with two 160hour a month employes would go? This is also one reason he wants to switch to Blender, because there are many professionals working with it on a freelance basis compared to DAZ. Also the script changed apparently around >95% so no script. And he is still producing >50 still renders a day which is way more than most do and at that quality? There is no one.

There are too many ifs in and buts in that. He can hire others to work with him but that's based on the assumption that he'll ever make so much money as to be able to afford someone else to work with him. Then there is the question of his perfectionism. He scrapped entire 6 chapters of a game because he didn't like the story or renders. Things he created himself. How do you know he'll let anyone else work with him on creative parts of the game (rendering or writing) when he is that obsessed with the game being according to his vision? Even DPC doesn't allow anyone to do that despite being this big.

At this point I'm not on this thread because I expect the game to ever be finished. I don't. I'm just here because I liked the old game and I want to be here to see what new thing he has done because ik I'll like that as well.

 

[rerderrum]

There are too many ifs in and buts in that. He can hire others to work with him but that's based on the assumption that he'll ever make so much money as to be able to afford someone else to work with him. Then there is the question of his perfectionism. He scrapped entire 6 chapters of a game because he didn't like the story or renders. Things he created himself. How do you know he'll let anyone else work with him on creative parts of the game (rendering or writing) when he is that obsessed with the game being according to his vision? Even DPC doesn't allow anyone to do that despite being this big.

At this point I'm not on this thread because I expect the game to ever be finished. I don't. I'm just here because I liked the old game and I want to be here to see what new thing he has done because ik I'll like that as well.

That's fine in the end we no nothing for certain, just know the first Chaperts in WIAB where his first renders ever done so you might understand that he now thinks they suck.

 

[RichterQ87]

Is it just me or does the scene gallery not work with the incest patch? If you play the game normally through with the incest patch it works, but if you try and use the scene gallery from the scrappy mod it reverts back to calling them 'friend' and all that.

Edit: Nvm, it looks like SOME scenes still work with the incest patch such as one of the Leia scenes, but the first scene with Katie doesn't seem to work. I was under the impression the patch changed her to one of your sisters as well?

 

[regicide123]

Read the past three pages and man that's a lot of cope. I can't understand how people show up on this, uhhhh, legal salvage website and still give delusional support for creators who are either themselves delusional or bad faith actors.

 

[sorco2003]

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Hello,


Chapter 1 is going to release in two days on the 21st.
The game is done and tomorrow will be used to test and try some little thingies.

As mentioned on Discord. I got infected with Shingles a week ago and it's hitting me pretty hard.
Doc said it was caused by stress. I really need to work on my Work/Life balance.
After some pain meds, the electric nerve pain gets manageable and I have a 3-5h window in which I can work with full efficiency but I'm running on very low sleep for like a week now.
For the first time in my life, I'm actually dreading sleep due to how uncomfortable it is.

I will take 1-3 days off after the Beta release to deal with the damn shingles.
(The Beta has all content except for the gallery.)

- Ocean

 

[hielo_seco]

Damn, developer perfectionism really get him issues. I hope he gets fine and thinks seriously on getting a team that can develop his vision and relief him a bit from all the stress!

 

[PipeLayer2000]

Shingles is a bitch! I felt like I was hit by a truck when I had them a few years ago.

 

[sorco2003]

The announcement brings more bitterness than joy. Ocean is putting his health at stake and that is not right. He talks about balancing life and work, but I don't think that's enough. Evidently he doesn't have the funds to hire people, that's not an option today. As much as I have been very critical with the amount of time the remake has taken and with the lack of a more fluid and present communication, and despite loving WIAB, I honestly believe that he should continue alone with SG, which at least today is his most important project, which has more support, which is the one that can reach Steam faster to receive more income.
Too many times Ocean has said that he would not abandon WIAB, but very honestly, if he announced today that he would not continue, I would not be upset at all, I would just pass my humble support to the SG patreon.
Hope for a speedy recovery, rest and think things over.