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VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

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Oceanlab said:
There's no need for a cinematic.
There's also no need for licensed music, higher quality renders, etc.

But this is just what I want to do. Push the limits of Daz. Improve in all categories. Create quality games.

It's a wonderful creative outlet and I'll never stop creating cinematics.
It's just too much fun.


And the day the game will be finished, you might agree with me.
Unfortunately, you found the game during its development and have to endure waiting times.


I sadly don't have a team of qualified artists behind me and I'm on my own.
All I can tell you is, I'm working on improving the development speed while also increasing the quality.
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well the up side of ppl playing the game under development is that some of them will give you money to help you further develop the game (the rest of us is filthy pirates but i bet even then a good few of us will try to promote your game).. i hope with new updates that you get more patrons maybe with more frequent updates (just hope you get some help when you do get enough support and not burn yourself out like other game devs)
 
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Glad to see WIAB coming along. Still not sure if we are getting all previously released 6 chapters remade and released at once so the next updates continues were things left off, or if we are only getting the first chapter remade and released and will have to wait for chapter 2 to be remade and released and so on, which could take...years I guess, to catch up with the old content lol.
 
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JB08 said:
Glad to see WIAB coming along. Still not sure if we are getting all previously released 6 chapters remade and released at once so the next updates continues were things left off, or if we are only getting the first chapter remade and released and will have to wait for chapter 2 to be remade and released and so on, which could take...years I guess, to catch up with the old content lol.
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One chapter per update, dude. Ocean already said this many times. Sorry.
 
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JB08 said:
Glad to see WIAB coming along. Still not sure if we are getting all previously released 6 chapters remade and released at once so the next updates continues were things left off, or if we are only getting the first chapter remade and released and will have to wait for chapter 2 to be remade and released and so on, which could take...years I guess, to catch up with the old content lol.
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I'm sorry, but I completely agree with this person.
If it like you said, one chapter per update, it will indeed take forever to catch up...
So, this remake is not worth it.
 
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archedio said:
I'm sorry, but I completely agree with this person.
If it like you said, one chapter per update, it will indeed take forever to catch up...
So, this remake is not worth it.
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The developer's goal is to release a finished product that is the best most polished product that he's able to produce. We consume his work while it's in development. Whether or not we'd prefer he focus on delivering a story with a level of polish we find acceptable is immaterial to the developers goals. Don't get me wrong, I too would prefer that ocean crank out the VN and then go back and polish it, but that's neither my call nor yours. At this point given ocean is developing two games, I've resigned myself to the long wait and only hope he eventually finishes this VN.
 
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archedio said:
I'm sorry, but I completely agree with this person.
If it like you said, one chapter per update, it will indeed take forever to catch up...
So, this remake is not worth it.
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DanThaMan said:
Cant forget about the other game this guy is working on, at current speed it is predicted to be completed in 26 years, a year per chapter, 30 planned lol.
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GetOutOfMyLab said:
I'm not even sure if I will play it. Maybe in 10 years when a couple chapters are completed.
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Like the others said the reworked chapters have new storyline with totally different plots....the dev said a while back that the old chapters were a disease full of nothing but mistakes every left and right , now he is undoing those mistakes by remaking the old chapters so that it would connect acceptably to Summer's Gone.

Now as the update goes , a chapter in an update per year for now , you know he reveals his work progress in the logs every two weeks and now we know that the development progress of his both games have started to take a new pace beginning with the new workstation pc he purchased lately , now the development speed is increased and the quality as well , now he has a separate pc to do the animations alone.

The deadline for each update will gradually become shorter in the future as he buys more equipment or maybe he'd hire some qualified artists prior to the middle stages of development of both games over the time given the success and the patrons both games bring. Come on it's not gonna take 26 freaking years or more.. obviously.
 
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I'll wait as long as it takes. This game seems like it'll be one of the biggest on this site if they go through with their plan. Good luck ocean and I'll be here all the way through.
 
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Right now I don’t expect subsequent updates will come any quicker than 12-15 months and until I see tangible results I’m going to hold that view. So the 25 year estimate for this game to be completed feels pretty realistic to me.

And whether that waiting period is worth it, we’ll thats up to the indivual I suppose.
 
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UncleFredo said:
The developer's goal is to release a finished product that is the best most polished product that he's able to produce. We consume his work while it's in development. Whether or not we'd prefer he focus on delivering a story with a level of polish we find acceptable is immaterial to the developers goals. Don't get me wrong, I too would prefer that ocean crank out the VN and then go back and polish it, but that's neither my call nor yours. At this point given ocean is developing two games, I've resigned myself to the long wait and only hope he eventually finishes this VN.
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you know, if Spielberg (okay fine my bad.. George LUCAS ) had gotten HIS Way, we would Still be waiting for Star Wars.... the difference between OMG and Wow. do you really believe that OMG is worth waiting for?? and how about All the things that could have been influenced by it .. if we just gotten it. not comparing Ocean's work to Spielberg Lucas, but how would the world be if Star Wars was 'Perfect like He wanted' before being released.
 
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you know, if Spielberg had gotten HIS Way, we would Still be waiting for Star Wars.... the difference between OMG and Wow. do you really believe that OMG is worth waiting for?? and how about All the things that could have been influenced by it .. if we just gotten it. not comparing Ocean's work to Spielberg, but how would the world be if Star Wars was 'Perfect like He wanted' before being released.
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Unlike Spielberg, who had a set(more or less) budget and a contractual delivery date (somewhat fungible), ocean in terms of what he produces and when is independent of any strictures. He truly is a completely free spirit restrained, if at all, by the tolerance of his patrons. They are completely different situations, that can't be compared.

I thought I made my preferences clear. I'd prefer Ocean finish this game before he reworks it. Hell I'd prefer he finish this game before he spends one further second on SG. But that is NOT up to me or to you! It's up to ocean. I'm not a patron for exactly that reason. Maybe you're a patron. If not then you, like me, simply consume ocean's work for free. If and when ocean completes the game it will my profound pleasure to either buy in on steam, should that be an option, or become a patron for a month to pay him for a completed VN that is high among my favorites.

Imagination, artistry, authorship follow their own path, which is different in everyone blessed with those gifts.

So as I said, I've resigned myself to wait for updates. If I hit the lottery and went to ocean and said "I'll pay you $500,000 if you focus solely on WIAB if you can complete it in 18 months", I'm pretty sure he'd tell me to go to hell, and I'd respect him for doing so.

WIAB and SG are his and his alone. Only ocean can decide how best to pursue his dream.

Ocean. I love both of your games, but I must confess WIAB is by far my favorite of the two. Thank you for your work.
 
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