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Sieglinnde

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I don't think devs can add or remove tags, even if they own the OP (and this isn't even that case).
Horror is even in the OP's genre section, and it probably was there ever since the first 0.1. Maybe is was planned at one point but it never made the cut.

I can't believe I've never noticed the disappearing hand despite watching that gif multiple times :ROFLMAO:
If we own the OP, we can. But, as you said, this isn't the case
 

legendppk

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New MC definitely deserves to get NTR'ed by dad and Miru's friend.

Also, Horror tag is probably due to planned yandere elements later on, if they follow along the same route version 1 went.
 

NewTricks

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New MC definitely deserves to get NTR'ed by dad and Miru's friend.

Also, Horror tag is probably due to planned yandere elements later on, if they follow along the same route version 1 went.
That's grim. But it is probably true as by the end of the first game's last update the walkthrough indicated that Niru could be "hunting" MC's baby momma and I don't think that it was to give her flowers.
 

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Hello,


So, today will be a very short log.

Summer's Gone is currently rendering its last cinematic, meanwhile, I'm doing postwork on 2250+ SG renders.
So yeah, SG is going to be released soon.
And I limited my work on WiAB for the past week to push through the release phase of SG. After SG is released, I will be returning to the old schedule of "One day SG, next day WiAB and repeat."
But until then, I will be focusing on releasing SG.

WiAB Chapter 2 is around 65-70% done.
It will release not that long after the SG Chapter 4 final release.

2. Music
As many of you know, I've been dealing with a lot of music stuff lately... With the next release of WiAB, some music will be removed from Chapter 1, as apparently I'm too small of a fish for them to go the extra step of contacting artists for me.

More about this some other time...
But I did personally contact some bands/musicians to get some licensing deals... These are more expensive but there's no other way to get high-quality music.
WiAB won't be getting as much new music as SG... Cause one license costs almost as much as WiABs entire support.
I already heard back from one band and we're in contact... If all goes well... I might get the music for both, SG and WiAB for a relatively affordable price...
Otherwise, WIAB will have to wait for a little while until it gained more support and I can purchase them without literally using 100% of its current support for a single license.

3. Laptop
I invest so much into rendering, that I know had to invest in another very important part...
Writing.
I got myself a laptop and it's already paying off big time... I sometimes have trouble writing in my office... but when I'm outdoors at a lake, etc. I am always super inspired.
Every morning since I got the laptop I'm going outside and I just write... And it's a world difference.
In the past two days, I've written more for SG and WiAB than in the past 3-4 weeks. Just amazing.
The Laptop is also powerful enough to edit cinematics, lewd scenes, and do postwork... So even if all PCs are rendering, I can still keep working on other visual aspects.

Private Katie reporting for duty.

4k attached.

After SG Chapter 4 is out of Beta, Summer's Gone will be available for certain tiers here, too.
For those that don't know yet, Summer's Gone and Where it all Began are deeply connected.
I'll see you in the next Dev Log.

- Ocean
 

IRedI

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Having previously played the original a long while ago and returning to the re-worked version, a few quick thoughts:

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Same as all NTR games, hopefully in that route MC catches his girlfriend's cheating and breaks up, well that'll never happen ,I only saw once in a detective game. It was interesting
 

KhamulTG81

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as apparently I'm too small of a fish for them to go the extra step of contacting artists for me.
MOTHERF...ERS! This is why most devs don't want to deal with this and use random unlicensed shit music...
It's not the artists fault but the shit stains who represent the artist and "protect" their work... Artists should always have a protection against copyright infringement but this specific argument is just an excuse not to work!
 
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I would have preferred if Ocean had different dialogues/character interactions based on the NTR On/Off choice.
This is the case.

If NTR On, then some of the current dialogue makes sense ... for example, because Miru's libido exceeds MC's and he repeatedly rebuffs her propositions for sex, she will seek to satisfy her needs elsewhere. On the other hand, if NTR Off, then I would advocate for roles to be reversed - i.e., MC's libido should exceed Miru's, which provides context for polyamory as the doting girlfriend seeks to help satisfy her boyfriend's needs. Dev wouldn't need to add new renders, just add a separate dialogue track for certain scenes as appropriate.
This isn't a dating simulation.
The characters' personalities won't change because of a fetish.

Miru's libido will always exceed MCs, that's just how she is.
MC libido is natural.

He sees the same tiddies every day = Meh.
New tiddies = Nice.

And if you turn NTR off, Miru might like the idea of watching you do someone else to satisfy her "needs."
There're many ways to use Miru's heightened libido for the MC's benefit.

MC's and he repeatedly rebuffs her propositions for sex, she will seek to satisfy her needs elsewhere.
The new Miru is not a mindless animal.

Rebuffing sex isn't enough to make Miru cheat (with NTR on.)

Miru and MC have something going on that plays on a much deeper level than physical contact to gain short-term satisfaction could ever achieve.

She'll get mad and it has an impact on some routes but Miru's not a natural cheater.
If you aren't pushing her into certain situations and/or pushing certain limits... She won't cheat or act like a fool.

Sure, she often acts super horny in front of the MC and pretty much wants to bang him 24/7... But that's just the childish/insider behavior they do when they're alone/drunk.

NTR On - current genitalia that Miru generally finds pleasurable but she finds somewhat lacking and searches elsewhere for bigger and better.
See above.

MC's not suddenly going to turn into a fool.
Even with NTR on, MC's bed-game is still A+. (At least with Miru. Every girl in the game likes different things.)
And he won't lose the ability to read women and their reactions towards him.



If dev is going to have girlfriend (and others in the future) remark about MC's horse cock, then the model needs to back it up. MC is somewhat above average, but not huge.
That's the "joke" about it.
Miru's extremely tight. Even an average/above average cock is enough to... "make her work for it."

Other characters might just be like... "Huh, Miru said you had a horse cock but I'd say he's slightly above average."
MC mentions this in Chapter 1 by telling Miru that she's the only one thinking that because of her very tight pussy.

As with point 2, I'd possibly use a different model depending on path.
As I said above. This isn't a Dating simulation nor a fetish game.

It's a Story focused game with lewd elements.
No fetish is going to direct/change a character's behavior to a point that they act out of character.

The same rule also applies to the MC. He's not a faceless and bland MC.
He has principles that can be formed/adjusted throughout the game.

NTR Off - upgrade MC's genitalia to be bigger [...] than any other shown male characters.
You don't need a horse cock to be better. That's a child's fantasy.

MC knows what he's doing and I'm certain many girls prefer a guy with an average dick that knows how to use it compared to a dude with a horse cock that can't even find the right rhythm and read how her body reacts to certain stimulus.

I want my lewd scenes to be more than just "Thrusting". I want a sensation, two souls connecting on an emotional level.
(Not saying there's not going to be some casual sex. There definitely is... but still.)

NTR Off - upgrade MC's genitalia to be [...] better than any other shown male characters.
MC gets girls with his wit, humor, charm, and overall looks.
The fact that he knows how to read a woman and her body is just the cherry on top.

And pretty much no girl in this game thinks about fucking a dude just because he has a big cock.
It takes a little more than that.

There's no need for an actual cliche horse cock.




The NTR switch isn't a switch to make characters stupid, less attractive, or suddenly super horny.
It does change something, though

(OFF = Miru/Girl X being okay with only you banging Girl Y) but she still keeps her character traits.
(On = being the natural state of two equal partners.)

Miru won't suddenly allow you to bang everyone on the NTR OFF route.
And no girl is going to turn into a brainless horny slut by turning it ON.

Please don't confuse my approach on optional NTR with most of the NTR crap on this site.

It takes a lot of build-up and a whole lot of honest communication and trust to make the OFF route work.
And it takes exactly as much build-up to justify a loyal person like Miru cheating on the ON route.


Ocean's artistry continues to be outstanding. Top-of-class cinematics. Bravo.
Thank you!
 

Gladheim

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This is the case.



This isn't a dating simulation.
The characters' personalities won't change because of a fetish.

Miru's libido will always exceed MCs, that's just how she is.
MC libido is natural.

He sees the same tiddies every day = Meh.
New tiddies = Nice.

And if you turn NTR off, Miru might like the idea of watching you do someone else to satisfy her "needs."
There're many ways to use Miru's heightened libido for the MC's benefit.



The new Miru is not a mindless animal.

Rebuffing sex isn't enough to make Miru cheat (with NTR on.)

Miru and MC have something going on that plays on a much deeper level than physical contact to gain short-term satisfaction could ever achieve.

She'll get mad and it has an impact on some routes but Miru's not a natural cheater.
If you aren't pushing her into certain situations and/or pushing certain limits... She won't cheat or act like a fool.

Sure, she often acts super horny in front of the MC and pretty much wants to bang him 24/7... But that's just the childish/insider behavior they do when they're alone/drunk.



See above.

MC's not suddenly going to turn into a fool.
Even with NTR on, MC's bed-game is still A+. (At least with Miru. Every girl in the game likes different things.)
And he won't lose the ability to read women and their reactions towards him.





That's the "joke" about it.
Miru's extremely tight. Even an average/above average cock is enough to... "make her work for it."

Other characters might just be like... "Huh, Miru said you had a horse cock but I'd say he's slightly above average."
MC mentions this in Chapter 1 by telling Miru that she's the only one thinking that because of her very tight pussy.



As I said above. This isn't a Dating simulation nor a fetish game.

It's a Story focused game with lewd elements.
No fetish is going to direct/change a character's behavior to a point that they act out of character.

The same rule also applies to the MC. He's not a faceless and bland MC.
He has principles that can be formed/adjusted throughout the game.



You don't need a horse cock to be better. That's a child's fantasy.

MC knows what he's doing and I'm certain many girls prefer a guy with an average dick that knows how to use it compared to a dude with a horse cock that can't even find the right rhythm and read how her body reacts to certain stimulus.

I want my lewd scenes to be more than just "Thrusting". I want a sensation, two souls connecting on an emotional level.
(Not saying there's not going to be some casual sex. There definitely is... but still.)



MC gets girls with his wit, humor, charm, and overall looks.
The fact that he knows how to read a woman and her body is just the cherry on top.

And pretty much no girl in this game thinks about fucking a dude just because he has a big cock.
It takes a little more than that.

There's no need for an actual cliche horse cock.




The NTR switch isn't a switch to make characters stupid, less attractive, or suddenly super horny.
It does change something, though

(OFF = Miru/Girl X being okay with only you banging Girl Y) but she still keeps her character traits.
(On = being the natural state of two equal partners.)

Miru won't suddenly allow you to bang everyone on the NTR OFF route.
And no girl is going to turn into a brainless horny slut by turning it ON.

Please don't confuse my approach on optional NTR with most of the NTR crap on this site.

It takes a lot of build-up and a whole lot of honest communication and trust to make the OFF route work.
And it takes exactly as much build-up to justify a loyal person like Miru cheating on the ON route.




Thank you!
 

Foind

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It takes a lot of build-up and a whole lot of honest communication and trust to make the OFF route work.
And it takes exactly as much build-up to justify a loyal person like Miru cheating on the ON route.
Main reason why I feel safe in leaving the switch on in this game. I want it to be an organic development and the girl not cheating on MC would be a reward of treating her "right" while the other being because MC didn't. instead of a cuck fantasy
 

LostGhost

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basically the NTR only happens because MC put her in a place like that,so will it be avoided while NTR is ON with right choices?(even if mc involved with other girls?),Or it must needed to be turned off?
 

Mister_M

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For me personally Miru is no more or less important than any other LIs in a game; that is to say I try to roleplay these games as much as I can and I don't really care if she's MC's gf, I don't consider her as such since she wasn't chosen to be one based on my decision (that's why I generally don't like games with MCs starting already in a relationship). So I don't care if she has sex with others, she can do whatever she wants and with whomever she wants to, more likely than not I'm going to focus on other characters or maybe just the plot if no one will catch my fancy.
 
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