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How tragic
- Some dev with a measly 8GB card, probablyThat is most certainly not true. Most of the Daz devs (there's hundreds and hundreds of them!) would probably sacrifice their left nut to have the level of hardware you have right now. I understand the desire to create immersive scenes, but you should seriously learn to optimize your scenes better or cut some corners if you're often running out of 48 Gigs (!!!) of VRAM. That's a skill in and of itself, and without it, even if you have a hypothetical 96GB card, sooner or later, you will start hitting the max cap.
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Well they load now, but someone resized them to 144p
Any chance for 1080p or higher versions? Thanks anyway
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The ones I shared are 360p and that's the Max resolution of every preview AFAIK.Well they load now, but someone resized them to 144p
Any chance for 1080p or higher versions? Thanks anyway
The Upper Tiers might have (?) access to the 1080p.
Edit: I was wrong!
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I wonder about open relationships, how Miru will react to sex for the sake of manipulation and achieving William's goals (no personal feelings at the same time). For example, the situation of Monica, who may still have feelings for William, and Benjamin, who loved Dana and possibly now loves. We can go from afar with Dana and develop events.
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Hello,
Soo...
1. Workstation
2. CH3 Status
3. Previews
1. Workstation
TL
R at the end of the text.Over the past weeks, I had a back-and-forth with the Nvidia tech support & also did a lot of research to see if memory pooling would still work through PCI-E, etc.
Nada... "Hey, let's charge almost 10,000€ for a GPU that can't even pool its memory like the predecessor."
That's pretty much the only reason why I want the A6000/Pro Cards.
But it's not going to happen with this GEN.
So I reconsidered and I'm doing the following now:
Instead of a Workstation with 2xA6000 ADA, I'm getting a custom-built workstation with 4x4090.
And on top of that, an A6000 (Old Gen).
I already have an old Gen A6000, and adding another with a NvLink will give me roughly 96GB VRAM.
I'd say 70% of my scenes can be rendered with 24GB. 30% need more than that. (Exceptions are updates like CH6 SG, which is 80% far above 24GB.)
So, I will have one PC with 2xA6000 Old Gen, that only renders the big scenes. (Every single update will have them.)
Meanwhile, the 4x4090 Workstation is going to render everything else.
And it's not just the raw speed of the GPU that's going to matter...
A good friend of mine is rendering on a 4090, and while he showed me a few animations, I noticed how fast they were rendering... But not because of the Cuda cores... But because of how fast the 4090 slurped the textures & other thingies into the memory.
Between each frame is a pause where the GPU loads all the textures & info into the memory... And while I created the Tabletop animations, this pause could take up to five minutes. (Before every single frame.)
This took longer than the actual rendering part & is also the reason why you never got a yoga/stretching cinematic in Chapter 3x5... As each memory loading pause took 15min and I abandoned it.
So it appears that it would also speed up animations by A LOT.
But I first have to test it, and then I can show you some graphs.
Oh, the custom Workstation (water-cooled GPUs) is also almost 8000€ cheaper than the previous double A6000 ADA Workstation.)
Both games would be made on both PCs. No more designated PCs. Both games are going to enjoy the fruits and WIAB won't face any downtime due to VRAM issues.
I can't get the workstation yet and have to wait for the Steam release, as you know, my old tax office hasn't submitted my 2021 numbers yet, and atm I wouldn't even get a loan for 2000€.
With the 5000 series GEN, I'll take another look at the Pro cards... But I need that scaleable VRAM.
TL
R: Instead of a Workstation with 2xA6000s ADA, I get a custom Workstation with 4x4090 & a separate old Gen A6000 to upgrade my current WiAB PC to 96GB VRAM. New Workstation is almost 9000€ cheaper. Still can't get it before Steam, tho. Both Games would be made on both PCs. WIAB won't face any downtime.2. Status of Chapter 3
CH3 is coming along great.
I still need to render ~400 renders. (96 of them are currently in the queue, and ~300 need to be set up.)
I've already started with postwork, and as soon as I have around 500 renders done in post, I will start testing.
We're getting pretty close now.
3. Previews - 4K attached
Sneaky MC
Zoey-Moey
New important environment
WiAB: Probably early September.
SG: Probably late September.
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Hello,
Soo...
1. Workstation
2. CH3 Status
3. Previews
1. Workstation
TL
Over the past weeks, I had a back-and-forth with the Nvidia tech support & also did a lot of research to see if memory pooling would still work through PCI-E, etc.
Nada... "Hey, let's charge almost 10,000€ for a GPU that can't even pool its memory like the predecessor."
That's pretty much the only reason why I want the A6000/Pro Cards.
But it's not going to happen with this GEN.
So I reconsidered and I'm doing the following now:
Instead of a Workstation with 2xA6000 ADA, I'm getting a custom-built workstation with 4x4090.
And on top of that, an A6000 (Old Gen).
I already have an old Gen A6000, and adding another with a NvLink will give me roughly 96GB VRAM.
I'd say 70% of my scenes can be rendered with 24GB. 30% need more than that. (Exceptions are updates like CH6 SG, which is 80% far above 24GB.)
So, I will have one PC with 2xA6000 Old Gen, that only renders the big scenes. (Every single update will have them.)
Meanwhile, the 4x4090 Workstation is going to render everything else.
And it's not just the raw speed of the GPU that's going to matter...
A good friend of mine is rendering on a 4090, and while he showed me a few animations, I noticed how fast they were rendering... But not because of the Cuda cores... But because of how fast the 4090 slurped the textures & other thingies into the memory.
Between each frame is a pause where the GPU loads all the textures & info into the memory... And while I created the Tabletop animations, this pause could take up to five minutes. (Before every single frame.)
This took longer than the actual rendering part & is also the reason why you never got a yoga/stretching cinematic in Chapter 3x5... As each memory loading pause took 15min and I abandoned it.
So it appears that it would also speed up animations by A LOT.
But I first have to test it, and then I can show you some graphs.
Oh, the custom Workstation (water-cooled GPUs) is also almost 8000€ cheaper than the previous double A6000 ADA Workstation.)
Both games would be made on both PCs. No more designated PCs. Both games are going to enjoy the fruits and WIAB won't face any downtime due to VRAM issues.
I can't get the workstation yet and have to wait for the Steam release, as you know, my old tax office hasn't submitted my 2021 numbers yet, and atm I wouldn't even get a loan for 2000€.
With the 5000 series GEN, I'll take another look at the Pro cards... But I need that scaleable VRAM.
TL
2. Status of Chapter 3
CH3 is coming along great.
I still need to render ~400 renders. (96 of them are currently in the queue, and ~300 need to be set up.)
I've already started with postwork, and as soon as I have around 500 renders done in post, I will start testing.
We're getting pretty close now.
3. Previews - 4K attached
Sneaky MC
View attachment 2820768
Zoey-Moey
View attachment 2820769
New important environment
View attachment 2820770
WiAB: Probably early September.
SG: Probably late September.
- Ocean
Not long ago in the SG thread I answered that each developer had their needs, and they knew them, and that each graphics card had advantages and disadvantages. With this configuration, it is clear that the advantages of the 4090 are many, even a user had commented that pci express 5.0 allowed to pull the VRAM (I do not know how it will do it, I have not tested it), so a new generation workstation should be able to stock the memory (apart from the speed that naturally has).
Great news in general!
Who was the friend? Kentyrr?
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Out of curiosity, why put 4x4090 on a single pc instead of spreading them out on multiple pcs?
VRAM doesn't stack so it would only help with the speed, and I'm certain rendering 4 pictures on 4 pcs with a 4090 each is much faster than rendering them on a single 4x4090 pc.
This solutions always look good on paper, until you're faced with DAZ's (lack of) optimization for them.
VRAM doesn't stack so it would only help with the speed, and I'm certain rendering 4 pictures on 4 pcs with a 4090 each is much faster than rendering them on a single 4x4090 pc.
This solutions always look good on paper, until you're faced with DAZ's (lack of) optimization for them.
" I already have an old Gen A6000, and adding another with a NvLink will give me roughly 96GB VRAM. "
I dunno, I also read and heard that DAZ can't use the combined RAM of several cards but apparently Ocean heard otherwise.
Nice dev update, thanks - that's crazy on NVidia's end; to stop allowing the VRAM to stack on the Ada workstation card is nuts. Taking away one of its main selling points; might as well just have a big billboard telling creators not to buy it since that is undoubtedly a huge draw for other developers just as it was for Ocean. A multi gpu Ada Quadro rig as originally planned would have been fantastic - lower power usage, less heat generation, etc. and with the astronomical energy costs in Germany that would have been a great match, but hey gotta do what you gotta do and find a plan b. Glad to hear the workstation is going to be liquid cooled, too; been running liquid cooled CPUs & GPUs in my rigs for around 20 years now and I couldn't endorse it more positively overall.
Ya I've seen some banter on that as well; I've been curious if it's just a DAZ issue. I know Ocean has said he wants to move to Blender, so if Blender works well with VRAM stacking then that'll be another good reason to expedite the transition.
I thought that the 4090s and all cards moving forward got rid of NVLink? There is a limitation with DS and number of cards.
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well, the game is top-end, but there is little content in the game, and I would like to see content with other guys, for example, with girls having sex and doing blowjob, and the animation of sex is very short, and there is no choice of poses for sex
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I assume that this is to create the effect of presence and to deepen the immersion in the scene. Have you ever noticed that when you look at an object in front of you, all the details on the periphery of your vision and in the distance seem to be blurred? That's what I think he was trying to achieve.
And it has been used many times in SG as well. For example, you are talking to someone in the hallway of a college and that person is in focus, while those passing in the background are blurred. But suddenly someone from the passers-by attracts your attention, and the picture changes. The person in front of you is now blurred, and the one you noticed in the distance, as well as those who are next to them, is in focus.
Google answers this:
But only Ocean knows for sure. Maybe he did it just for lulz.
Yep, it is a standard photographic principle called depth of field (DOF). It is important in highlighting the subject when the context (background) is less important. Look at any non-landscape image or film. They all use it. Even landscape if the image has a primary subject, like a tree.
When done well, it creates a beautiful image with a nice bokeh (the ability of a lens to render the out-of-focus part of the image). Photographers pay a lot of money for lenses that create great DOF and a fantastic bokeh. The ability to use DOF is a good measure of an experienced 3D renderer compared to an amateur.
When the background is important, it is kept in focus.