VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

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Maviarab

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ShiShi! said:
I don't get why indie adult VN devs keep stretching themselves out with multiple projects. I've already seen several just died and abandon their games because of over-stretching their capabilities. This game had a good thing going for it and then a rework was announced and now we're over 1 year and counting with no updates because dev started another project...
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Not defending Ocean...enough of that goes on...however:

He didn't start another project...it was already his...his story. Someone else was doing it until they stopped...so Ocean decided to do it himself. The visuals improved and the story was changed somewhat. Given the two stories are so connected, Ocean decided (his right to do so and didn't personally bother me) to update WIAB to try and match SG...and also change some story elements to match his revised script of SG. (I also think, my opinion, we have had so much SG to coincide with events from WIAB and will be like this going forward, but that's just a theory of mine).

if going to whine like a 12 year old...at least about stuff that is correct (like is stretching himself thin between both a problem por not, which so far it has been I agree but I don't think that will be a problem now going forward).Personally I'm anti SG as this was the better Vn and story until he took over SG himself so hoping now most of the reworks are done that things move along again at a nice pace.
 
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Maviarab said:
Not defending Ocean...enough of that goes on...however:

He didn't start another project...it was already his...his story. Someone else was doing it until they stopped...so Ocean decided to do it himself. The visuals improved and the story was changed somewhat. Given the two stories are so connected, Ocean decided (his right to do so and didn't personally bother me) to update WIAB to try and match SG...and also change some story elements to match his revised script of SG. (I also think, my opinion, we have had so much SG to coincide with events from WIAB and will be like this going forward, but that's just a theory of mine).

if going to whine like a 12 year old...at least about stuff that is correct (like is stretching himself thin between both a problem por not, which so far it has been I agree but I don't think that will be a problem now going forward).Personally I'm anti SG as this was the better Vn and story until he took over SG himself so hoping now most of the reworks are done that things move along again at a nice pace.
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"He didn't start another project...it was already his...his story. Someone else was doing it until they stopped...so Ocean decided to do it himself."

So... he did started another project.

If he had someone else worked on it before and that someone stopped and he took over, he started another project. He was only working on one project now he's working two. Same thing, really. One year without update is really killing whatever momentum this game had and does not add confidence to future supporters.

He's already lost 37 supporters over the last 5 months and his patreon's page growth has basically stagnated for the whole year. Pretty familiar route to people who've witnessed projects being abandoned or cut short. Let's hope he figures this out and can re-start this somehow because I like this game and the renders are top notch.
 
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ShiShi! said:
"He didn't start another project...it was already his...his story. Someone else was doing it until they stopped...so Ocean decided to do it himself."

So... he did started another project.

If he had someone else worked on it before and that someone stopped and he took over, he started another project. He was only working on one project now he's working two. Same thing, really. One year without update is really killing whatever momentum this game had and does not add confidence to future supporters.

He's already lost 37 supporters over the last 5 months and his patreon's page growth has basically stagnated for the whole year. Pretty familiar route to people who've witnessed projects being abandoned or cut short. Let's hope he figures this out and can re-start this somehow because I like this game and the renders are top notch.
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I love both games but I agree and I already said it at the time, I think it is a hell of a mistake to try to run 2 projects at the same time, if a single project sometimes becomes a maze for the developer and some even abandon it, I do not want to imagine 2 projects at the same time and with a much more limited hardware than other leading developers ....

He shouldn't have done this, he should have focused on SG and that's it, WIAB has a good story but it could have been his second project at the end of SG and connect the stories, it would have been fun to remember SG events and intertwine them with WIAB, but not at the same time, this is going to end badly and it's something that bothers me, because SG is probably my favorite renpy to this day.
 
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In one of his more recent dev logs, he outlined release dates for both games. I thought there was a December release planned. Don't quote me on that.

Ahh, Turbojoe posted one of them.
 
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It might not be a harem simulator where characters are constantly fucking and throwing themselves at the MC, but I don’t think that makes the writing automatically “good”.

Moody lighting and close ups don’t mask the fact that Ocean’s writing often falls into the realm of melodrama and there are a lot of strange anime-esq moments of exaggerated characters and weird comedy that feel out of place.
 
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Cockva said:
:KEK: First time on this site? After that he can say wait another 2 weeks then another then another, disappear for a few weeks and then say he will release in 2 months.
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You better stop your meany poo poo comments or many people here is gonna get upset! Dev is not like that, he is different! Well this update is late yes, but he is not what you said. :Kappa:
 
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mommysboiii said:
lets wait and see and give ocean 10 episodes but I am almost sure that IF ocean goes into the direction I think and believes in his ambition I think ocean will creat a game that will have MORE interesting PLOT, more story twist , actually REAL antagonist that you also can lose against which will creat tension, ........ and all this things that are important for a ENGAGING and tension curve in storys which is just impossible if you creat a game ina certain way because you cant crat tension
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Alright, so we need to let the "greatest porn game ever" marinate for another decade? Goddamn.
 
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Feru452ax said:
Another broken promisse from dev. And when I come here to point this BS, the fanboys throwing money into his patreon get all salty.

Got laugh. A Where it all ended will never happen indeed.
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Well..I'm neither a fanboy nor a Patreon...but he did state it would be a couple weeks later than the estimated release date.

I do wonder why people like yourself hang around this thread though...more pathetic than the fanboys you like to try and constantly put down. Personally, I'd use my time more constructively than wasting it here in a thread for a game you obviously have issues with. That's just me though.
 
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Maviarab said:
Well..I'm neither a fanboy nor a Patreon...but he did state it would be a couple weeks later than the estimated release date.

I do wonder why people like yourself hang around this thread though...more pathetic than the fanboys you like to try and constantly put down. Personally, I'd use my time more constructively than wasting it here in a thread for a game you obviously have issues with. That's just me though.
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You know.. like idk two three months ago he said that he would release wiab 0.3 beforr summers gone, then maybe a week or two after SG.. Now look where we are, if it were up to me i would stop supporting him.
 
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Maviarab said:
Well..I'm neither a fanboy nor a Patreon...but he did state it would be a couple weeks later than the estimated release date.
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A couple weekes later than estimated, after 2 or 3 failed timelines he gave.

this for the last 2 years, stating something dont change facts.

He promissed focusing on WIAB after SG updates, never did.

He bought a second computer (newer) for SG and said the old one he did both games was going to focus solely on WIAB rendering, said this would make WIAB updates FASTER.

He said this AFTER chapter 2 update, that came out LESS then 1 year after chapter 1.
Now chapter 3 is MORE than 1 year already, where are the 'faster' updates.

These are the facts, stating things will be delayed AFTER everything got delayed PLENTY of times won't change the facts.
 
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