VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[mr.AwesomeGameTaste]

Reading some of the comments here, you'd think Katie appears sitting on a fluffy cloud with angel wings. In the old WiAB it was very clear she only acts like a bitch as a defense mechanism, and all of those flashbacks later on reinforced that idea. Old wiab was also very clear that while Katie was a bitch and wasn't a saint, she was bullied and abused by leia and mc. Unless you insist on antagonizing her ( and I do hope that option will be here as well) The game is and was very clear in it's pro Katie stance. Now the mc clearly says Katie is just as bad as Leia, and just plays innocent. Now we will have to wait and see if the game follows through and shows us what exactly did she do. But some of you chose to ignore it outright and claim she'll be a saint. I also think it was weird how in the old Wiab everyone got over the fact that the mc left very quickly, which you could say is justified due to the time passed, but I absolutely don't think someone like leia who lost her best friend and a partner should get over it quickly.
It's a shame that Leia's criminal activities that involve many members of the family is so openly discovered, that I don't really like. And Also Dana's model is just worse compared to the old version.

 

[wizardcock]

in dialogue with Katie he mentions she also threatened to tell someone else besides their parents and that would be a problem, so that's why he left. for prison, there was an explanation before rework, guess we have to wait until he talks to Leia in the next update to see if it's the same or not

what happened before rework is his ex framed him for stealing her stuff and police caught him when he was about to get on a train to return home, he also had a fake ID and didn't tell his name. Miru was arrested for a fight on the same day and they met at the police station

Thanks, it's more or less cleared up. I guess I need to turn off logic more often and accept that everyone in games is emotional and impulsive, otherwise there will be no story.

By the way, it's funny how Leia's boobs change even within an episode, let alone from episode to episode.

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in my opinion they was perfect in the second picture. And in episode 3, they look like too unnatural like plate-shaped.

It's a shame that Leia's criminal activities that involve many members of the family is so openly discovered, that I don't really like. And Also Dana's model is just worse compared to the old version.

- Hey, Miru, are you the girlfriend of the man I don't trust? Let me show you my drug lab in the basement of our house.

 

[squares]

By the way, it's funny how Leia's boobs change even within an episode, let alone from episode to episode.

Guy needs a sticky note on his monitor with model morph numbers/positions for his characters for sure. I would also add a line "Not everyone has huge boobs fetish" written in red with permanent marker. Though, it might be a cultural thingy.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Tanning reason

 

[wizardcock]

Guy needs a sticky note on his monitor with model morph numbers/positions for his characters for sure. I would also add a line "Not everyone has huge boobs fetish" written in red with permanent marker. Though, it might be a cultural thingy.

Leia's upper lip has also changed (from ep1) to a more "typical Ocean's" lip shape and smile.
And she's also more tan. (i have pale-girls fetish)
With Ocean, you can never be sure that a girl you really like will have the same look

 

[squares]

Leia's upper lip has also changed (from ep1) to a more "typical Ocean's" lip shape and smile.
And she's also more tan. (i have pale-girls fetish)

Yeah, I can see it now. But you can actually change your lips shape in a similar way by tensing some face muscles or whatever is in there near nostrils, so maybe it is just a facial expression or an emotion going on at a moment. As for the tan, lighting is a weird thing even IRL.

 

[Porthas]

Hmm. I'm trying to get into the story. But it's a bit like... say... you're at a party, right? You are hanging out with a new friend. That new friend runs into a bunch of old friends and they all start talking. And you're sitting there not knowing what the fuck they're all talking about. So basically you want to get up and leave and let them all hang out. That's how I feel reading this story so far.

I like Miru. Glad I can turn that NTR bullshit off, that's a nice plus.

I don't mind the Michael Bay posing of shots. But I think the pacing of the story takes a hit at the expense of the Michael Bay shots.

 

[wizardcock]

Yeah, I can see it now. But you can actually change your lips shape in a similar way by tensing some face muscles or whatever is in there near nostrils, so maybe it is just a facial expression or an emotion going on at a moment. As for the tan, lighting is a weird thing even IRL.

Maybe you're right, and I have that pale image from ep 1 with the red lipstick under the moonlight stuck in my head.
But it seems to me as if he made her upper lip thicker or slightly reshaped it to make it less round

 

[squares]

Hmm. I'm trying to get into the story. But it's a bit like... say... you're at a party, right? You are hanging out with a new friend. That new friend runs into a bunch of old friends and they all start talking. And you're sitting there not knowing what the fuck they're all talking about. So basically you want to get up and leave and let them all hang out. That's how I feel reading this story so far.

I like Miru. Glad I can turn that NTR bullshit off, that's a nice plus.

I don't mind the Michael Bay posing of shots. But I think the pacing of the story takes a hit at the expense of the Michael Bay shots.

To understand WIAB more, you have to also read Summer's Gone - another Ocean VN. WIAB is a prequel to SG, two stories are painfully slowly unravel the big picture. One answers some of the question for another.

 

[Mortarion]

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This is not entirely correct, the key variable is the open relationship thingy:

menu:
        "Mention the idea of a polyamorous/open relationship.":
            $ Mob = True
            scene aac355 with dssa
            d "We should have an open relationship."
            scene aac356 with dssa
            mi "Yeeeeah... no."
            d "Sounds like we would profit from it."
            scene aac357 with dssa
            mi "You just want to bang that junkie granny!"
        "Don't mention it.":
            $ Mob = False
            scene aac357 with dssa
            mi "Remember that junkie granny?"

menu:
        "You're my weirdo.":
            scene a183 with dissolve
            $ Miru +=1
            mi "Ohhh!"
            #kiss
            if Mob is True:
                scene a184 with dissolve
                mi "And then you dare to mention an open relationship..."
                menu:
                    "I am still open for it.":
                        $ MobX = True
                        scene a185 with dissolve
                        mi "Reaaaally?"
                        scene a186 with dissolve
                        d "Yeah, I can divide between sex and love."
                        scene a187 with dissolve
                        mi "Hmm... Maybe it's not such a bad idea... I mean- I do have a weird libido."
                        d "You would be perfect for porn."
                        mi "Haha... I know it's supposed to be a compliment but it feels like an insult."
                    "Yeah, it's just not us.":
                        mi "Yeah."
            else:
                pass
            pass
        "You really are.":
            scene a184 with dissolve
            mi "Hey! You are supposed to reassure me that I am sane!"
            scene a186 with dissolve
            "You give her a smile."

im kinda really curious how ocean is gonna manage to stay true to the patreon rules with wiab but sg too as im pretty sure quite a few of the li's, nami and nika are related to willy/the zanes lol

After this update nothing convince me that it's not Ocean who releases the ICPatch - nothing!!

The update goes public on 23.12.2023 21:41 CEST




As we can see, this time there are no beta testers involved


And the IC patch was uploaded on the 23.12.2023 14:34 CEST

Love the the game so far but man the netorare path is a MFO to find, took 6 goes... Wish if you have NTR set to on the game helps you get on and stay on the NTR path.... But now I found it, it crashes when I try to continue as he sucks her nipple.... Anyone has the same issue?
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Take a look at this, Schattenfang has found the problem.

 

[Doomyk]

Well, Leia is far from the only one who is associated with crime. Scarlet and Joe a long time ago. I suspect that Dylan is generally a mafia boss and after Willie’s disappearance he was preparing Leia as an heir. It’s William who evokes less and less pity and sympathy with each update. He himself says that words won’t change anything, only actions, does nothing to earn trust, in the last chapter generally behaves like a child,and responds to the simplest request to manipulate Monica and says fuck off, as the plot progresses, he constantly tells her to fuck off, then he is surprised that Leia doesn’t trust him one bit.

 

[Mortarion]

and responds to the simplest request to manipulate Monica and says fuck off, as the plot progresses, he constantly tells her to fuck off, then he is surprised that Leia doesn’t trust him one bit.

Maybe because he regrets what he's done to her in the past?

I think that he's well aware that playing her again WILL damage thier relationship beyond any repair. And with the plan to move back to Wollust it can be quite a bit a pain in the arse have a cop on the bad side.

Especially when there is more at stake as a simple awkward scene frome the past. The complete drug trafficing and nightclub thingy can go to hell if you poke the angry but sleeping cop often ennough...

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well, Leia is far from the only one who is associated with crime. Scarlet and Joe a long time ago. I suspect that Dylan is generally a mafia boss and after Willie’s disappearance he was preparing Leia as an heir. It’s William who evokes less and less pity and sympathy with each update. He himself says that words won’t change anything, only actions, does nothing to earn trust, in the last chapter generally behaves like a child,and responds to the simplest request to manipulate Monica and says fuck off, as the plot progresses, he constantly tells her to fuck off, then he is surprised that Leia doesn’t trust him one bit.

I see it differently, Willi left as a child - Leia didn't even have breasts from his memories, we see Leia as an anorexic child after he left. Willi would have no real understanding of all that was going on, having spent time in prison, unable to contact them. He doesn't know what Leia went through, he only know what he went through. So in my play through, I'm trying to make peace with everyone. Leia wants me to abuse a person from a broken relationship for ends that she won't even fully disclose, after sending Willi on wild goose chases for things she already knows the answer for. Willi's being pretty cautious, asking the right questions, but neither Leia or Katie want to help Helen more than they want to punish Willi. Leia's playing Willi to get her revenge on his betrayal while Monica tries to stay professional when what Willi did to Monica was far far worse. Willi ghosted his family which is bad, Leia wants him to corrupt people she bullied. Leia is a viper. I'm only going to react positively to her to see the drama, I'd normally keep my distance from anyone like that. Willi's telling her to fuck off, because she's trying to play everyone, and turn him into her lapdog.

Some of the dialogue is stilted though, Ocean really wants to push the idea that WIlli was an asshole across, even if you choose everything to make the peace.

 

[Rajesh Ram]

is there any Sex or Nude scene of hot mute Mom in new update?

 

[H-gh]

Thanks, it's more or less cleared up. I guess I need to turn off logic more often and accept that everyone in games is emotional and impulsive, otherwise there will be no story.

By the way, it's funny how Leia's boobs change even within an episode, let alone from episode to episode.

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in my opinion they was perfect in the second picture. And in episode 3, they look like too unnatural like plate-shaped.


- Hey, Miru, are you the girlfriend of the man I don't trust? Let me show you my drug lab in the basement of our house.

Honestly the first picture from ep 1 is the best in my opinion or the second as you said . In ep 3 he made them too big and they look weird

 

[Haeloo]

What happened to my save file? How to get "Sync ID"? Please Help

 

[BobTheDuck]

What happened to my save file? How to get "Sync ID"? Please Help

You have to start again - Ocean updated the engine to a new renpy version, old saves won't work. It's been so long since the last chapter, it was worthwile to start again in my case, I noticed a lot more than I did the first times.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Damn your sounding like such a insecure little bitch. Uhuuhuuhhh willys girlfriend told another hot looking chick that willy would bang her when not taking into account that shes his sister. Oh nooo, the worst kind of "ammunition" imaginable, hows willy gonna recover from this heavy blow?

I get his point, Miru doesn't know the extent of what went on and she is supposed to trust and have MC's back, its a shitty thing to do undermining him in front of a potential enemy, but for us as the audience that we know Katie is not bad and especially when you put it like this, it does sound ridiculous to hold a grudge on Miru's character beacuse of it

 

[Mortarion]

Leia didn't even have breasts from his memories

And here we have some inconsistency. It was heavyly implyed that William and Leia had something running - or better to say, they have fucked. Otherwise there would be no way that Kaite would be able to trigger William so fast whlie watching TV together as Miru was away to take the pill. Theres something around that William wants to keep at all costs away from Miru.

Even in Chapter three William has accused Katie she had him blackmailed in the past with spelling the beans to "her" - who ever that my be.

The second inconsistency I've noticed was that William has told Leia he was in prison. But in SG the book clib meeting was mentioned that William and Leia where quite active in basketball sports, but not as players.

Leia had some fish things running in manipulation/bribe/blackmail the other teams to lose and William has trained the girls in his own special was for endorphin release...

This is from the Summer's Gone Chapter 5 script:

    jen "As if! Leia was totally responsible for it!"
    scene sb1114 with dssr
    katie "I don't recall."
    scene sb1111 with vpunch
    jen "Bitch! Just admit it!"
    jen "We would've never lost against your team!"
    scene sb1114 with dssr
    katie "We had a good team, a good coach, and I was at peak performance."
    scene sb1112 with dssr
    jen "Bullshit! Your teammates spent more time getting backshots from William than actually training!"
    scene sb1095x with dssr
    "Sasha and Adrianna share an awkward look."
    scene sb1115 with dssr
    katie "Whatever helps you cope."
    scene sb1116 with dssa
    katie "Loser."
    scene sb1113 with dssr
    "Jenna's fuming so hard, her body starts shaking a little."
    scene black with Dissolve(2)

Somehow is the timeline of this events off, well, we have to see how this works out with the future releases of both games ...

 

[cab18+]

OMG, the pool bj had me in a cramp for a while, soooo good !