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John972

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While I am always open for an option 3 or even 4 or more. I believe this is contradicting when you "I was there when He (Regium) wrote the story for Summer's Gone and I influenced it too." If that exact sentence was in Ocean's native German and if Ocean didn't state he was doing a favor for a mate to help him develop his own game, I would take it more literally.

but say " Ocean gave Regium a story outline or a script, which Regium fleshed out into Chapter 1 of a game he developed and released (and this is what Ocean says he did). Regium would have no need to acknowledge this. "

Because if we can use the German as an excuse for one you can also use it for the other.

So if we were to give me a more in my opinion 3rd option that would be. If Ocean may have provided him with the basics of story writing as in formatting, content length, bullet points to keep with consistency.

Sure, he had as much influence as the guy asking Elon Musk about the gas and the booster situation. At that point in time.

And to be clear on a few thing, English is also not my primary language.



Doubt ill be doing excel sheets, but I do appreciate you finding them and given that I am currently sick with admittingly fuck all to do anyways. ill get to the playing, would have been great if 2.5 was also in there. but this will do for now.

EDIT: Not sure I can do much with 3 as at this point obviously Ocean already fully took over which I just realized . but ill take it anyways
See:

https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/post-12751186

I still have archive copies of all game versions and the changelogs.

What I meant about the original German, is that nuances can be lost when non-native speakers express themselves in English.

So, "I was there when He (Regium) wrote the story for Summer's Gone and I influenced it too." could be:

(a) literal, i.e. exactly what it says in English, or

(b) it could mean Ocean was there when Regium developed and fleshed out a story outline/plot into Summer's Gone Chapter 1 (i.e. "wrote the story"), after Ocean provided that story outline/plot to Regium (" ...I influenced it too.").
 
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Aldnoah Zero

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If everyone, including me, you and Ocean, is lucky enough to live a very long life until he finishes WiAB and SG, we will be able to resolve this dispute. Ocean once said that he had the plot of 5 games in his head (including WiAB and SG), and even named some abbreviations for the names of future games. So, if such a miracle happens and he starts the third game on the list, I will write to you with a light heart from the nursing home, "Haha man, who was right?" :HideThePain: :HideThePain: :HideThePain:
Well, considering the miracle of A.I (with an exception of chat bots, something that is not new and pics with crooked fingers...)
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Who knows, maybe... at least VNS can be accelerated...shortly.
WIAB and its development has always been a soap opera (I've been following it since the beginning...although I hate NTR)
The first version was very heavy ntr , Miru starts the game with a broken leg, and flirts with a doctor, even has sex with a jail criminal boss... a gang (brother... the girl from the cafe).. many others... even the fat cousin!

Although many consider VNs to be art and Ocean is a perfectionist , it is a business like any other in digital categories (Where delays result in lost money)
To make matters worse, it now becomes something of a moral nature (if there is no evidence to use it as legal court material)..Who did what, what is mine..
That's what I was missing!:FacePalm:
 
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HentaiKami

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Well, considering the miracle of A.I (with an exception of chat bots, something that is not new and pics with crooked fingers...)
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Who knows, maybe... at least VNS can be accelerated...shortly.
WIAB and its development has always been a soap opera (I've been following it since the beginning...although I hate NTR)
The first version was very heavy ntr , Miru starts the game with a broken leg, and flirts with a doctor, even has sex with a jail criminal boss... a gang (brother... the girl from the cafe).. many others... even the fat cousin!

Although many consider VNs to be art and Ocean is a perfectionist , it is a business like any other in digital categories (Where delays result in lost money)
To make matters worse, it now becomes something of a moral nature (if there is no evidence to use it as legal court material)..Who did what, what is mine..
That's what I was missing!:FacePalm:
Thing with AI is that it's already starting the incestual spiral, since there's so much stuff AI has done, that ends up being the material AI uses for reference, that it's getting pretty bad.
 

TanyaC

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  • You made a mistake and wasn't actually comparing beta to full
  • You suck at comparing
I said that I downloaded this version, and I went to see the content and looked at the previous version, tell me, do you know what changed?
Everything in this version is in the previous version, even the scripts are the same size, nothing was added to the story, I got my last save from the previous version and when I opened it in this version the game ended as it had ended in the previous version....
Because I need to lie about something that hasn't changed at all, and don't tell me I don't know how to compare... I have the previous version and the folders and scripts are all the same as this version... you must be blind to say something wrong give this to me and say that I don't know how to compare anything, tell me what was added to the current story?
If my last save worked in this version and ended like the previous one.:FacePalm:
 

ArsenHumby

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I said that I downloaded this version, and I went to see the content and looked at the previous version, tell me, do you know what changed?
Everything in this version is in the previous version, even the scripts are the same size, nothing was added to the story, I got my last save from the previous version and when I opened it in this version the game ended as it had ended in the previous version....
Because I need to lie about something that hasn't changed at all, and don't tell me I don't know how to compare... I have the previous version and the folders and scripts are all the same as this version... you must be blind to say something wrong give this to me and say that I don't know how to compare anything, tell me what was added to the current story?
If my last save worked in this version and ended like the previous one.:FacePalm:
Wrong, a flashback scene was added in the full ch.3 release, that and one of the girls got a gallery or somethinh like that. If only people bothered to read or search for info we wouldn't have this holier than tho monkeys going around
 

TanyaC

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Wrong, a flashback scene was added in the full ch.3 release, that and one of the girls got a gallery or somethinh like that. If only people bothered to read or search for info we wouldn't have this holier than tho monkeys going around
flashback scene/ Do you think this is content, just a scene and just 1 addition to the gallery, who is interested in the gallery... I'm interested in content and story development.;)
 

Jarulf

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Weird discussions here aside, this was an absolutely amazing update. I had only played up to chapter two so far, so had to start a new game. I didn't mind that one bit.
Interesting story, very complicated relationships with believable characters, lovely women (though I'm more of a small boob fan), and ridiculously beautiful renders.
 

zainon

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nooooo! dana was my fav LI. i like her thiccc body! but visual(face, hairstyle) wise and character wise? i prefer the OG dana. dang it
 
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Eonor

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Made a compressed Android port of Where It All Began Episode 3 with Joker's walkthrough mod.

Got some basic gestures loaded in: swipe up for save menu, swipe down to hide UI, swipe left to rollback and swipe right to skip. Save files are now stored in the Documents folder. This sometimes means that you may need to close and re-open the port after installing so the save folder is properly created.

Please let me know if you encounter any issues with the port and I'll see what I can do to get them sorted.

Link: -
 

LaShou23

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Besides the outstanding visuals, great renders and cinematics, i think what Ocean does best is the dialogues but this is a double-edged sword since it feels like sometimes outshines the plot. Plus if you add that this is a super slow paced story... you feel that the plot is going nowhere. At least with the reveal in the latest chapter could be starting to move somewhere.
 

JB08

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Wow the game is very different from the original release. And im not talking about the character redesigns and in general the render quality. Lots of story elements were altered or removed. I suppose they might return later on, I mean we are not even at the camping event from the old version and half the stuff so far is different lol. I like the changes, I didnt at first but overall WIAB is a lot better now.
 

Bobhanw

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So judging by what the Mc says to Leia i assume we are going to possibly skip the prison section from the original version:unsure:?unless he ends up back there:oops:
 
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