Coffee is my best solution for life, in general. High quality contentI don't expect anything anymore.
Now, I'm going to make some more coffee. See ya.
...and the best coffee requires sunglasses for it's extreme coping mechanism....
What ? F95zone isn't part of the real world ? Are we nothing but a bunch of bots ???
Oh, you didn't, did you? You just wanted to share your observations about the differences between REAL WORLD and F95, right?
Welcome to the Zone, dude! For example, I am very old version of GPT-3, so sometimes I generate annoying nonsense about developers who are just people, so they may not be accurate in their estimates.What ? F95zone isn't part of the real world ? Are we nothing but a bunch of bots ???
He's reportedly (according to Disco) thinking of releasing all the old cut renders once the Steam release is sorted. Where exactly who knows.
Ocean gave an estimated release schedule some months in advance, not deadlines or specific release dates.
I'd like to say you're wrong but it's the truth. The funny thing is, the ones who're crying loudest are the ones who never pledged a dev and just want the stuff for free.
Well, I made that statement after viewing several particular game threads over the years.
I said the same things more then once, too. I'm completely with you on this topic. On this board as a dev you can't win. Towards devs this community is toxic. I don't get it. It could be a good platform where devs and players debate. Okay, there's this piracy thing and the most devs don't like that part, but still. There were a lot of devs here who're blowed off by mostly random users. Even big fishes like Nyx, Drifty or SFS. I really like it here, but it has it's flaws. That's for sure.
For the initial estimate (December or January for the WiAB and SG Finals), I'm sure Ocean has calculated it.
There are benefits for the developer to be here, mostly passive. Reading and understand, and trying stay cool. Those are unfiltered messages. When you can ignore poisoners messages and trolls of all sort, the rest is gold for a developer; new ideas, what people like, dislike, does the direction where game goes is correct. Unfiltered messages are much better then bunch of "yes Sayers" because there, on Patreon page under paying people, are very rarely critics.
I disagree completly, there is nothing valuable about the critics here for most devs. Maybe for a few who are just starting out and get indeed helped out here and have a way more patient readership here (but just at the beginning ..) otherwise the only benefit for devs here is to use it as free advertisement.
A developer has only one benefit from being here: to present their game to a wider audience, as well as to make advertising and future teasers. Once the game is noticed, there is no point in staying at all. The average toxicity of the discussion here kills any constructivism. There are more convenient ways for discussing suggestions that do not allow kink-lobbyists or kink-shamers or simply neurotics to approach the developer and spoil the devs mind with their phobias, obssessions or direct insults.
I respect your opinion but I don't have to agree. I said: "filter" when reading, means ignoring those ; update to short, why/when sex with (insert your person), game is stupid etc. Reason? When somebody like a game, he will not come with such attitude.
On the contrary i believe these kind of attitude develops through likeing a game (too much maybe), they are just overly impatient like a little kid who cant wait for their birthday.
In an ideal world would be true what you said. but ...
I can only agree with this completely, more than enough examples here in the zone to proof this.
The funny thing is, depending on who said it, this sounds either like hubris or confidence. In the case of WiAB, I like the story, I like (and hate) the characters, but I don't like how the story is told (drip-feeding crucial information to the player that every character is already aware of). While subjective, this is a valid criticism. Mentioning this doesn't mean I expect Ocean to rework the game (again), but it could give him the indication that (some) people are getting frustrated with that aspect.
Frankly, I was also annoyed at first by this way of storytelling. But in the old WiAB it was much more intense; To be honest, before going to the lake with girls, I didn’t even understand what this game was about, and how all these scenes that were shown to me were connected. The new WiAB is better in this sense. I think this style is a tool to keep the narrative vague, tp create a mystery that will keep the players' attention for a while and keep them guessing "what the fuck is going on" and that will be resolved towards the end.
Or anything by Lynch.Frankly, I was also annoyed at first by this way of storytelling. But in the old WiAB it was much more intense; To be honest, before going to the lake with girls, I didn’t even understand what this game was about, and how all these scenes that were shown to me were connected. The new WiAB is better in this sense. I think this style is a tool to keep the narrative vague, tp create a mystery that will keep the players' attention for a while and keep them guessing "what the fuck is going on" and that will be resolved towards the end.
In SG, in this sense, everything seems even more confusing to me; the entire first season only adds strange events without explaining their real meaning in the story, ambiguous phrases in dialogue, random facts about the main characters in casual gossips told between secondary characters. In general, it creates mystery and some handmade chaos in the narrative, like everything is not what it really seems. But at the same time, certain main storylines are still preserved, and are being developed quite straightforwardly.
Again, this style of storytelling is not for everyone and quite confusing and sometimes even annoying, but that's what this author's stories are like. Changing the narrative and redoing it seems a dead end to me, and I’m not sure that it will work out at all; it seems to me that the stories are built on mystery and ambiguity. Some parts of the story are deliberately left vague until the time comes to reveal them, and it's likely that new information will change the meaning of previously shown scenes. This is not a bug, it's a feature. Those who liked the TV series Lost will understand what I mean.
Yeah, personally I think this is a narrative crutch. It would bother me less in a pure kinetic story because then the player is just along for the ride. But when there are choices to be made, it gets frustrating.
Played SG about half a year ago, and with all this talk about rework/remaster, I have no idea if my version is still "current". I liked SG more because it was easier to put myself in the MC's shoes. I didn't really feel overloaded with information either, though I started to dislike Nami because she (and the MC) were keeping a secret from the player about what happened at the cabin before Summer went away. I got the impression that Nami was the cause for Summer leaving (maybe she called the cops or something), and for such an important LI, this would be a massive skeleton in the closet.
Yeah, this is what it'll come down to... Can the writer/storyteller pull it off or not. In STWA The Writer, there's a similar ambiguous event that just fell flat when it was revealed, while STWA Unbroken does this (arguably) even more, at least what's happening "in the now" adds more value than the artificial mystery takes away.
