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Lorenz1

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The key problem with taking feedback on this website is that the games here are free. You can't veto people who aren't jnterested in the game and vocal minorities unless you have some proof of commitment.

That's why steam reviews are so good, they are from the paying customers.
 

Lurcher1

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...Her way to care for him (giving him Daphne time after taking him out to give him a cheer up, even if he didn't want cheerup sex) is not simply to be a cushion, but to push him into better choices. Miru knows he needs Daphne (super curious as to Willi and Daphne's history) so even though she is jealous of Daphne, she gives him a moment hoping it'll settle his mind. ...
You've jogged some of my thoughts on Daphne. I seem to remember in the OG WiAB, William was supposed to have been taken in by a family as a runaway (could be wrong, it's been a while since I played). I'm wondering if Daphne was part of that family, considering they're supposedly religious which would mean they would feel a duty to care. Couple that with what I suspect was Daphne's sheltered upbringing, meant that William was probably one of the few friends Daphne had at that age. So, mix a sheltered naive girl with a brash, impulsive runaway and, well, you can see the result in her tattoos :D

Would somewhat explain why she's quite alone if she wasn't allowed to develop her social skills. I also wonder if, during his prison stint, she worked in some capacity to support or look after him or maybe even help with his parole. Either way, I'm looking forward to her returning. I can't see her remaining where she is if William extends any sort of invite. The only girl that causes Miru to act Leia like and starts to loose her cool...
 
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gropaga

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It's not the transitions fault. It's a Ocean bug:
If you move the mouse cursor to the upper right corner (over the music player) during video playback, the current scene will end immediately.
The player gets the feeling that the video has ended.
The bug is present in the first chapter WiAB, during the sex scenes with Miru and during the intro video scene. I didn't check the rest of the scenes because I'm lazy.


There is also a bug in the game that causes the music to disappear during video with embedded music playback, but that's another story.
 

Old Man Al

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Hello,

The Dev Log is a little delayed.
Release weeks... The usual.

For the next few weeks, there's a change of plan. As many of you know, I'm preparing the Summer's Gone Chapter 5 Full release and the Steam/Epic release that comes with it.

As I said in previous Logs on SG. Reworks affect my mental health negatively. It feels like I'm standing still, even though I know I'm not.
I know the SG Rework is worth the effort. (Considering Steam, etc.) But it's still draining my energy like crazy.
I'm at the end of the SG CH5 Full release, and with that, the reworks are done once and for all.
But I need to get it done ASAP.

While I did do some WiAB in the past two weeks, I'm going to focus on SG for around 2-3 weeks, and then after the release of Season 1 SG, I will return to the usual schedule. A slightly improved schedule.

As WiAB is now on the big workstation, I can work on SG and WiAB at the same time. (Thanks to the A6000 Adas').
I think that's better than switching back and forth each day.

Anyway, 2 to 3 weeks is what I need.
There's just so much to take care of. From translating, dealing with Steam, Epic & Gog, rendering, fixing & trying to get more music, and building new environments.
I just need around two to three weeks to focus on the release.
I hope you WiAB bois will understand.

I did finish a few environments though. Two for Chapter 4 and three for Chapter 3.5.

Here are two previews from Chapter 3.5:
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I'll see you in around two weeks with a normal dev log again.

Sorry for the inconvenience & putting WiAB on a two-week pause. But I need to respect my mental health during the now fourth release window in 3 months. It's taking its toll.

- Ocean
 

Maviarab

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Nothing unexpected here to be honest, I think we all knew that SG was going to take full priority for the Steam release. Also makes perfect sense.

Nothing to see here, please move on.

(though can see the haters incoming in 3...2...1...)
 

Cabin Fever

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Nothing unexpected here to be honest, I think we all knew that SG was going to take full priority for the Steam release. Also makes perfect sense.

Nothing to see here, please move on.

(though can see the haters incoming in 3...2...1...)
Well the 2-3 weeks focus on SG probably means that won't come out in February neither. Wait til the trolls realize THAT.
 

Quetzzz

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i just wonder will he ever stop putting dates out because he is really bad with them maybe in a month or so there will be a schedule that works for him
Setting tentative deadlines can still help his process. Setting a date provides a bit of pressure, which might be healthy for him.
 
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yossa999

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i just wonder will he ever stop putting dates out because he is really bad with them maybe in a month or so there will be a schedule that works for him
As long as people understand that this is a rough estimate it's fine. I read "two weeks" as "about mid-March" :HideThePain:

Setting tentative deadlines can still help his process. Setting a date provides a bit of pressure, which might be healthy for him.
Publishing deadlines -> pressure -> negative impact on mental health -> decreased productivity -> shifting deadlines :HideThePain:

At least he talks honestly and upfront about the current state of development and does not hide the delays, explains why that happened and how he plans to proceed. One could just post a couple of previews and say that everything is going as usual.

The only thing that encourages me is that there is only one last push to the finish line and the first release on Steam is a one-time event, so once it happens, all the extra work associated with it is gone. (reworking old chapters of SG, preparing a Steam version, localization into different languages, steam-related technical tasks)
 

Quetzzz

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At least he talks honestly and upfront about the current state of development and does not hide the delays, explains why that happened and how he plans to proceed. One could just post a couple of previews and say that everything is going as usual.
Right, that's the main reason why I think he can handle it. If pressure gets too much, people tend to shy away from confrontation.

The only thing that encourages me is that there is only one last push to the finish line and the first release on Steam is a one-time event, so once it happens, all the extra work associated with it is gone. (reworking old chapters of SG, preparing a Steam version, localization into different languages, steam-related technical tasks)
I hope this isn't really true. Too many devs just dump their game on steam without providing help or support. I hope, at the least, that Ocean has recruited volunteers to moderate the Steam community forum.
 

Ottoeight

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Well the 2-3 weeks focus on SG probably means that won't come out in February neither. Wait til the trolls realize THAT.
Setting tentative deadlines can still help his process. Setting a date provides a bit of pressure, which might be healthy for him.
As long as people understand that this is a rough estimate it's fine. I read "two weeks" as "about mid-March" :HideThePain:


Publishing deadlines -> pressure -> negative impact on mental health -> decreased productivity -> shifting deadlines :HideThePain:

At least he talks honestly and upfront about the current state of development and does not hide the delays, explains why that happened and how he plans to proceed. One could just post a couple of previews and say that everything is going as usual.

The only thing that encourages me is that there is only one last push to the finish line and the first release on Steam is a one-time event, so once it happens, all the extra work associated with it is gone. (reworking old chapters of SG, preparing a Steam version, localization into different languages, steam-related technical tasks)

REAL WORLD:

you repeatedly miss deadlines your client set -------> you lose the job, the money and the client



F95:

you repeatedly miss deadlines you set -------> you get praised
 
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yossa999

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REAL WORLD:

you repeatedly miss deadlines your client set -------> you lose the job, the money and the client



F95:

you repeatedly miss deadlines you set -------> you get praised
:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
When did Ocean become your employee? Would you like to share the details of your contract with him?

Why do you feel that you're entitled to demand something, such as releases on certain deadlines? And who, by the way, sets these deadlines?
 

Ottoeight

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:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
When did Ocean become your employee? Would you like to share the details of your contract with him?

Why do you feel that you're entitled to demand something, such as releases on certain deadlines? And who, by the way, sets these deadlines?
Did I demand anything?

:unsure:
 

Ottoeight

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:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
Oh, you didn't, did you? You just wanted to share your observations about the differences between REAL WORLD and F95, right?

Sorry, my fault, I misunderstood you.
I don't expect anything anymore.

Now, I'm going to make some more coffee. See ya.

:coffee::coffee:
 
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