- Dec 24, 2018
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Nothing new???? Miru has a ring, I don't remember that! She accessories her nips for the occasion
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- Sep 29, 2023
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Setting tentative deadlines can still help his process. Setting a date provides a bit of pressure, which might be healthy for him.
- Dec 5, 2020
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As long as people understand that this is a rough estimate it's fine. I read "two weeks" as "about mid-March"
Publishing deadlines -> pressure -> negative impact on mental health -> decreased productivity -> shifting deadlines
At least he talks honestly and upfront about the current state of development and does not hide the delays, explains why that happened and how he plans to proceed. One could just post a couple of previews and say that everything is going as usual.
The only thing that encourages me is that there is only one last push to the finish line and the first release on Steam is a one-time event, so once it happens, all the extra work associated with it is gone. (reworking old chapters of SG, preparing a Steam version, localization into different languages, steam-related technical tasks)
- Sep 29, 2023
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Right, that's the main reason why I think he can handle it. If pressure gets too much, people tend to shy away from confrontation.
I hope this isn't really true. Too many devs just dump their game on steam without providing help or support. I hope, at the least, that Ocean has recruited volunteers to moderate the Steam community forum.
- Feb 19, 2021
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a little sad for some reason
from the old SG that we loved there will not be a render left
- Mar 13, 2021
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As long as people understand that this is a rough estimate it's fine. I read "two weeks" as "about mid-March"
Publishing deadlines -> pressure -> negative impact on mental health -> decreased productivity -> shifting deadlines
At least he talks honestly and upfront about the current state of development and does not hide the delays, explains why that happened and how he plans to proceed. One could just post a couple of previews and say that everything is going as usual.
The only thing that encourages me is that there is only one last push to the finish line and the first release on Steam is a one-time event, so once it happens, all the extra work associated with it is gone. (reworking old chapters of SG, preparing a Steam version, localization into different languages, steam-related technical tasks)
REAL WORLD:
you repeatedly miss deadlines your client set -------> you lose the job, the money and the client
F95:
you repeatedly miss deadlines you set -------> you get praised
- Dec 5, 2020
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When did Ocean become your employee? Would you like to share the details of your contract with him?
Why do you feel that you're entitled to demand something, such as releases on certain deadlines? And who, by the way, sets these deadlines?
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Did I demand anything?
When did Ocean become your employee? Would you like to share the details of your contract with him?
Why do you feel that you're entitled to demand something, such as releases on certain deadlines? And who, by the way, sets these deadlines?
- Dec 5, 2020
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Did I demand anything?
Oh, you didn't, did you? You just wanted to share your observations about the differences between REAL WORLD and F95, right?
Sorry, my fault, I misunderstood you.
- Mar 13, 2021
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I don't expect anything anymore.
Oh, you didn't, did you? You just wanted to share your observations about the differences between REAL WORLD and F95, right?
Sorry, my fault, I misunderstood you.
Now, I'm going to make some more coffee. See ya.
- Dec 5, 2020
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It's very sad bro, but I hope it's just a little difficult period and everything will get better.
I'm more of a tea person, see you too!Now, I'm going to make some more coffee. See ya.
- Dec 24, 2018
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Coffee is my best solution for life, in general. High quality contentI don't expect anything anymore.
Now, I'm going to make some more coffee. See ya.
...and the best coffee requires sunglasses for it's extreme coping mechanism....
- Sep 26, 2023
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What ? F95zone isn't part of the real world ? Are we nothing but a bunch of bots ???
Oh, you didn't, did you? You just wanted to share your observations about the differences between REAL WORLD and F95, right?
- Dec 5, 2020
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Welcome to the Zone, dude! For example, I am very old version of GPT-3, so sometimes I generate annoying nonsense about developers who are just people, so they may not be accurate in their estimates.What ? F95zone isn't part of the real world ? Are we nothing but a bunch of bots ???
- Jul 12, 2020
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He's reportedly (according to Disco) thinking of releasing all the old cut renders once the Steam release is sorted. Where exactly who knows.
Ocean gave an estimated release schedule some months in advance, not deadlines or specific release dates.
As for F95:
Any Dev who estimates a release schedule months in advance gets pilloried on F95 as soon as that period passes without a game update.
Any Dev who stays mum and waits to announce a release date until a week or two before gets pilloried on F95 in the meantime for milking and taking too long between updates.
- Jun 14, 2020
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I'd like to say you're wrong but it's the truth. The funny thing is, the ones who're crying loudest are the ones who never pledged a dev and just want the stuff for free.
Well, I made that statement after viewing several particular game threads over the years.
For example, there are wise Devs who know not to announce a release date until they are absolutely certain they can make the deadline. This usually occurs a week to a month before release. In the intervening months between updates, the F95 game threads contain the usual "milking" / "update taking too long" comments.
As for Ocean (and I'm going from memory here), he announced an estimated release schedule for SG 5 Beta, SG 5 full, WIAB 3 Beta, WIAB 3 Full a month or so in advance of the SG 5 Beta release.
I recall that he released the Betas more or less when he said he would, missed releasing WIAB 3 Full by a couple of days, and has yet to release SG 5 full (since it's the Steam release, the delay is understandable).
- Jun 14, 2020
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I said the same things more then once, too. I'm completely with you on this topic. On this board as a dev you can't win. Towards devs this community is toxic. I don't get it. It could be a good platform where devs and players debate. Okay, there's this piracy thing and the most devs don't like that part, but still. There were a lot of devs here who're blowed off by mostly random users. Even big fishes like Nyx, Drifty or SFS. I really like it here, but it has it's flaws. That's for sure.
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For the initial estimate (December or January for the WiAB and SG Finals), I'm sure Ocean has calculated it.
But everything didn't go as planned. Such as suddenly moving house and rendering requiring more VRam (too many rendering processes crashing), which ended up moving all the data to another PC.
The initial plan was that the purchase of a new GPU (a whole new PC with amd threadripper 5000 series and 2 RTX 6000 ADA) would occur after the release of SG on Steam, but would have to be pushed forward to speed up the rendering process.
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