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I can understand that - I think there's a need for the consequences of the panic attacks to hit home - we saw a bit of that in Ch5. THe way that was done was fantastic. But it should as easily happen while at training, or at Nick's, or being alone with Nia (whom he already finds exhausting) etc. I hope that the techniques Ocean uses to describe such things make their way into WiaB - regardless of whether anyone has the same direct mental problems, close ups of dilated eyes in the eventual prison scenes, false colours for mood swings etc. Leaching the colours was particularly effective, so I hope Ocean thinks of similar ways to bring a sense of introspection like that, drawing the focus in at times.
I'd say when he was in prison he found he couldn't run, so he grew up more quickly than he might - but he grew to survive, so the growth is forced in a certain direction, and stunted in others. I guess we really don't know until we learn more about how he met Daphne, Miru ...and Gefritzel. I find it strange that he has such a challenging pet to care for and is a writer considering he still has an asshole streak. It's like he's bipolar, sometimes he's in touch with the feelies, and other times he seems to have only enough emotion to put his best foot forward right into the shit.
That's the thing, he was one, but he's offered choices to redeem himself - if you take those choices, he's still an assholeAt the diner it was made clear that William was an asshole, just not a racist one.
The rest you're describing, I haven't played through yet, but I'm getting eager to see it. (Stopped playing right before they're leaving for the farm.) I just hope that William reading between the lines isn't a further abstraction for the player, but seeing how it's about current events, I suspect the player will know as much as William.
Most of William reading between the lines seems to be explained through exposition with MIru: I think in some ways she's intended to be both his guiding compass at times and his sounding board to think aloud without being theatrical talking to himself (at least, a small part of her function currently).Yeah, there's definitely some juicy details to uncover there. In the original pre rework, Willi hadn't done anything with Leia, if was simply the romance of the relationship. Katie (if you choose) got a (story) lewd scene before Leia did, and it blows her mind (as well as other things) that she got you to do something with her before Leia did. So I imagine the same is true - there's been no lewd actions between them yet.
The timeline is a bit skewed - we have anorexic, pre connective tissue Leia at the time Willi left, but Willi's old enough to creampie Monica on the kitchen table? Bold for a teen. When I think of the timeline, I get confused, so I pretend it makes sense, just like the canon of the official release (yeah, I know).
I think this'll be a major part - also, in the old version, Miru has to leave at one point. I'm guessing the same will happen, maybe for a different reason - to make space for Daphne moving to Wollust.
Mainly because SG is more popular. I'm sure Ocean will see what is possible once he gets past that hurdle with SG Season 1. I think he's playing safe with steam and trying to chalk up a few runs on the board before trying to get the content of this past their censors. Also, as this one is completely reworked, unlike SG, completely from the ground up, it has more left to finish season 1.
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Still one of the best scenes in any VN ever heh. That scene alone cemented Katie in my all time top 5 VN girls (number 2 to be precise).
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Completely agree. But in the old version, it was necessary to run far, far away from Miru at all times, just to avoid seeing her render, so of course Katie was paradise! Now I'm very conflicted, because I know Miru's only going with it to please Willi
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Completely agree. But in the old version, it was necessary to run far, far away from Miru at all times, just to avoid seeing her render, so of course Katie was paradise! Now I'm very conflicted, because I know Miru's only going with it to please Willi
That's why me must use the force to ensure we can have both together cuz new Miru is just...damn...not forcing her into degeneracy cos we hate her.
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Completely agree. But in the old version, it was necessary to run far, far away from Miru at all times, just to avoid seeing her render, so of course Katie was paradise! Now I'm very conflicted, because I know Miru's only going with it to please Willi
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I dunno about that. C&C Generals taught me that ak47s work better than pitchforks for angry mob.
I don't get why so many devs keep mentioning mental health and using it as an excuse. I sympathize, truly, but they are their own boss. Just work at ur own pace and comfort. I don't care if he does 1 release per year or in 2 years.
Don't talk about ur mental health when the rework wasn't warranted. He could've just updated the renders as he progressed with the story and not just redo things. The renders were decent for the year that the game came out and the worst thing is, this dev has 2 avn's running at the same time. Finish one and then release the other. I know they're both interconnected but they don't need to be released at the same time for the story/stories to make sense. And now he says it's affecting him mentally, no shit sherlock
(greed makes people overwork and make stupid decisions)
Don't talk about ur mental health when the rework wasn't warranted. He could've just updated the renders as he progressed with the story and not just redo things. The renders were decent for the year that the game came out and the worst thing is, this dev has 2 avn's running at the same time. Finish one and then release the other. I know they're both interconnected but they don't need to be released at the same time for the story/stories to make sense. And now he says it's affecting him mentally, no shit sherlock
(greed makes people overwork and make stupid decisions)
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maybe he needs to release both at the same time to avoid spoilers from one to affect the story impact of the other ?
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but but, muh mental health..., *wipe tears with 10 grand per month income*
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So someone with money can't suffer from an actual medical condition of having a chemical imbalance or suffering from other outside forces?
Hmm...
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Nope. Not allowed. Money solves all problems.
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you draw your own conclusion
not me who create and develop two game at a same time
not me who create two separate patreon account for that
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He didn't create two separate accounts, and to start with, he had someone else developing his story for SG. Regium created the SG patreon, Ocean created the WiaB patreon as far as I know (I could be wrong, it's just the way I recall it). There was no meaningful way for Ocean to merge the two when Regium left - patrons of WiaB didn't sign up for SG and SG patrons didn't sign up for WiaB, so we're in this situation. Ocean can't guarantee that if he cancelled the WiaB patreon page, the patrons would move across. He's still working on both, without the help he had at the start, and the scope has grown for both. It's very ambitious, but the situation is what it is, and he's managed to keep them both going and updating.
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You know the whole " I don't care if he does 1 release per year or in 2 years. " that you said is cool and all but many players and some patreons probably will disagree and tell you that they want more frequently updates,
That's true. You know what would've helped him release updates more frequently, focusing on one game. One game would've been more manageable and would've lead to more frequent updates.
After all, he's still learning programs/techniques for the game and juggling time with that and of course he needs to maintain a social life and all that. It's not like he can only do work on the game 24/7 like a robot. It's like he wanted to start sprinting before walking