That's true. You know what would've helped him release updates more frequently, focusing on one game. One game would've been more manageable and would've lead to more frequent updates.
patrons would move to the other page if there is a release to download. so he could actually do it on release day
Well if the 2 games are not connected with each other then that might work... But if the stories are connected it might not be as easy to do, I agree with your point that working at 2 projects at the same time is not the best idea.. Especially when that type of work requires lots of work...in both writing the story , and creating the scenes etc....
) like this one? But for WAIB, does anybody know something?
maybe you can refer to the old version for that. honestly with the current version, all girls that we saw up to now seem to be potential LI. I guess Daphne might be more complicated with the long distance, but it seems pretty obvious that she will move to where MC is.Hey guys do we have LI list (love interest list) for WAIB? or sth simmilar to Summer's gone list (posted by lonelyk, thanks brotherYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
the more ntr you watch the more manly you getI don't remember if I actually posted it or not, but after going through the original (pre-rework) version, I had one feedback.
But seeing it was being reworked I didn't (iirc) post it.
It was about how the NTR switch was described to be implemented vs how it actually was implemented.
The description was the same/similar as the current reworked version: i.e. even with the NTR on it was avoidable & dependent on player choices.However it wasn't implemented as such, with the girlfriend fantasizing about others in the unavoidable (default) route if the switch was on.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
As such I was going to recommend changing the description at the game's beginning to state that ntr was unavoidable unless it was switched off at the starting choice.
Seeing the reworked game, it seems the devs went in the opposite direction & actually fixed the implementation to match the description: i.e. now ntr content is only seen based on player choices.
This was the harder option, requiring a full overhaul of the game, but the better one imo.
So the rework improved one aspect of the game atleast.
Good job dev on fixing that particular inconsistency.
(Personally I prefer this, getting or avoiding ntr based on how you shape the game is much more immersive than having a switch at the beginning change the characters behaviour)
Note: This isn't about ntr, but about implementation of a mechanic the was it is described at the start. So no drama pls.
Fans write to Ocean every year and ask him to focus on one game. Because dividing his attention into 2 games, he cannot do even one normally. Now he's talking about mental health. Sorry, but this sounds like an excuse. Hundreds of millions of people work every day from morning to evening and do not complain about mental health, apparently Ocean has forgotten what it is. He needs to take a break and get a regular job, where he will not have the opportunity to go on vacation for several months a year and the salary will be low. After this, he will immediately forget about mental and other problems.
Dude, don't judge strictly, this is a problem with almost all "artists".
Before you criticize why Ocean is working on 2 games simultaneously, at least ask why he's doing it.
Many of those hundreds of millions you mentioned would complain, if they knew they could get help, or even understood their mental health better. Mental health problems are serious societal problems in most countries, that get untreated way too often. Also as you point in your message, many fans "ask", more like demand in most cases, Ocean to ignore their own creative designs and wants. That is extremely stressful for most people, especially if their livelihood is uncertain. As it is when your income comes from Patreon donations etc... "Forgeting", or more like burying, mental health problems won't fix anything. They will just fester and end up causing more trouble in the long run.
I studied Arts when I was younger, and then languages. I've worked in art commissions, art related jobs, retail, costumer support and education (children), and I can honestly say the art related stuff was the hardest of them all. There's only too much your mind can manage to imagine/invent, and if your muse leaves you, you're unable to keep going until you get some inspiration again. Art commission is different cause at least the client is giving you ideas of what they want, but when your main working tool is your imagination, things change. I often had to leave projects and series on standby cause my mind was exhausted and I coudn't keep going. While any job can cause you burnout, art related jobs will always be different in the sense that if the person isn't motivated, mentally exhausted or is suffering mental issues, it can completely prevent you from producing anything, and that's why working on a 'side project' is a brilliant idea. You take turns on both and you take breaks from both, so the chances of burnout are small.
Let me tell you a funny fact, all artists with poor mental health have one thing in common: they are all on Patreon. There you can subscribe to the artist and he will receive money every month, regardless of whether he works or rests. All artists like to relax and get paid for it. The most arrogant of them, who often rest, begin to come up with excuses like “mental health” for their idleness, so as not to be criticized. By the way, such excuses as constant moving and the need to buy new PCs (video cards) were not invented by Ocean, he borrowed this idea. The most interesting excuse I read about was the artist’s poor physical health. He constantly complained about his health, and the fact that he had to constantly spend time in the hospital, people pitied and supported him. Over time, people got tired of supporting him and left, after which the artist was instantly cured and started working. He never managed to get his subscribers back; they stopped trusting him.
You just don’t understand what i wrote above!
You're right, I really don't understand the complaints about mental health. At my job there is a Design department with a team that does rendering. So, in all these years, I have never heard any of them complain about mental health, although they are all creative people too. Moreover, they cannot take several months for rest and recovery like game developers from Patreon.
This condition happens to all people, even non-creative ones. They are also tired of their work, but they need to buy food, pay off loans and pay rent so as not to end up on the street. Do you think if patrons start telling artists how hard it is for them to make money and how tired they are of everything, will game developers be interested or won't they care? If I were a gambling person, I would bet on the fact that artists do not care about the problems of their patrons.
No one argues that you may have your own opinion, but you are comparing different things!
I don’t argue with you and largely agree. You misunderstood my words regarding Patreon. I'm not against the fact that developers make money there, on the contrary, it's good. Like everyone else, I am against the Patreon subscription system.
I couldn't understand what you meant by this. All people do the same thing every day at their jobs. And the fact that he doesn’t have constant communication at work is lucky for him, I’m even jealous.
Ocean is fucking alone at work. Do you finally understand this?
Humans are social creatures that always seek company and form communities, which is what has made our species the dominant life form on this planet.
