VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

I would say there's a lot of branching already....may not have come to fruition yet...but it's there.

But again...my main question...how many ways of getting Katie do you think there will be? Currently it's looking like the only way will be on the Miru sharing path (or at least tagging that first variable). Ignore Miru so she cheats way? Cheat on Miru way?

I edited my first reply after I'd posted to include some of those things, I guess the devil is in how much detail Ocean wants to provide. On a slightly more expanded idea - what if there is only one 'great' outcome with one LI, and all the other LI's are just detailed lewdables? We wouldn't know until the last chapter. I kinda feel that Ocean in some ways has a LOT to be able to play with and mess with our heads on this one - even more so than SG. What if messing around with Gina triggers a response from Krayt? What if Gina's bf decides he doesn't actually like being cucked and rats out Willi to the gang for revenge?

Currently the path to Katie seems to be through Zoe, as she's the one who's trying to persuade Katie to be in an open relationship. But what if you don't choose the open? Will there be a monogamous Katie route? Will there be Katie war hatefuckery? Will there be Katie manipulating WIlli to cuck Leia? Will we see dominant Miru, like when she tries to drown Willi? THere's just so much potential for different paths. I think we'll have to just see which ones Ocean develops, so I can't even second guess them all now.

What I do think is that Ocean will have multiple paths for a fewer number of LI's and the ones that ore more lewdable (ie Zoey, Kat, Gina at a guess) will have a single path, if not just a single encounter.

WiaB will certainly have a lot of choices between what paths you are on even with the one LI for sure.

 

[Maviarab]

And Zoey seemed to want a threesome with the MC and Katie, so that would also be an interesting option, although it’s not entirely clear where to put Miru in this case.

Currently that only happens on the sharing path. Maybe I'm missing the old version too much....and trying to figure out just how muich Ocean is going to reimplement into this one. So for example, if sharing not tagged as a variable...the camper scene with Katie and Zoe never happens etc?

WiaB will certainly have a lot of choices between what paths you are on even with the one LI for sure.

Yeah there's a lot of ways this could go and as said to yossa above, just trying to figure out early, which/what/may might happen etc. as said, currently it seems the only way to get interested in katie...and have Zoe be interested...is by the sharing variable. Would like to know if there's going to be other ways of getting/being with who is arguably the main girl in the story.

 

[yossa999]

Currently that only happens on the sharing path. Maybe I'm missing the old version too much....and trying to figure out just how muich Ocean is going to reimplement into this one. So for example, if sharing not tagged as a variable...the camper scene with Katie and Zoe never happens etc?

Frankly I don't remember this. Should have to download the old version sometime and take a look. But anyway, it seems that Miru disappears right before the camping scene, if I remember it correctly. It's when her mother and sister appears and her sister or whoever she's to Miru, finds her.

 

[HiP1]

never betray Miru! unless it's part of her own plans.

 

[Maviarab]

Frankly I don't remember this. Should have to download the old version sometime and take a look. But anyway, it seems that Miru disappears right before the camping scene, if I remember it correctly. It's when her mother and sister appears and her sister or whoever she's to Miru, finds her.

Yeah Miru vanishes that night...and with right options (cheating on Miru as there was no sharing path originally IIRC, unless you count the whoring her out in prison) you can spend the night inside the camper with Zoe and Katie (BJ from Katie...fuck Zoe).

But that was just an example as said, currently seems this is completely tied to the sharing path now. I mean, we may not even get that camper scene again...I'm hoping we still get the dildo scene with Katie but..hey..who knows. I'll be disappointed if that scene never returns and content with Katie is also 100% tied to the sharing variable.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Yeah Miru vanishes that night...and with right options (cheating on Miru as there was no sharing path originally IIRC, unless you count the whoring her out in prison) you can spend the night inside the camper with Zoe and Katie (BJ from Katie...fuck Zoe).

But that was just an example as said, currently seems this is completely tied to the sharing path now. I mean, we may not even get that camper scene again...I'm hoping we still get the dildo scene with Katie but..hey..who knows. I'll be disappointed if that scene never returns and content with Katie is also 100% tied to the sharing variable.

The dildo scene was an extra from memory wasn't it? Like a non canon scene? The camping scene I got was because of drugs rather than sharing or not sharing, so chances are that'll happen regardless, but with actual consequences rather than some weird drug love in with raccoons - Katie spike everyones cookies with what she stole from the plantation perhaps, wakes up with Willi's willy? I think the camping scene is still on the cards though, it'll just play out differently - we've seen some of a sleep over night or something with Kat, and the girl posse vibe seems much stronger than the original. Maybe Dana won't be on this camping trip and Kat will?

 

[Ayhsel]

I would say there's a lot of branching already....may not have come to fruition yet...but it's there.

But again...my main question...how many ways of getting Katie do you think there will be? Currently it's looking like the only way will be on the Miru sharing path (or at least tagging that first variable). Ignore Miru so she cheats way? Cheat on Miru way?

Based on previous version, I am not ditching Miru but will cheat in any possible choice. I just find it way hotter and fun if I am an asshole. Also, way more conflict

And, as in the previous version, Katie is favorite by far. So I will only pick choices for her.

If she has several paths, I might had different paths to see her route. But, as with Bella in SG, I just cannot choose other girls over Katie.

 

[Maviarab]

The dildo scene was an extra from memory wasn't it? Like a non canon scene?

Nope...if you purposefully went down that route it was cannon. I'm talking the scene in her room where you get her off (slightly against her will) and leave her thinking wtf just happened. Critical part of her path on that particular route.

we've seen some of a sleep over night or something with Kat, and the girl posse vibe seems much stronger than the original

Yeah new Kat is certainly incredibly awesome indeed (and sexy as hell)....very interesting...along with Daphne too...

Maybe Dana won't be on this camping trip and Kat will?

Hmm possible...and old Dana was single before...wonder how that will play out as a Li now? Also be a shame if she not there as that was also quite an important moment talking with her before near the lake...

Based on previous version, I am not ditching Miru but will cheat in any possible choice. I just find it way hotter and fun if I am an asshole. Also, way more conflict

And, as in the previous version, Katie is favorite by far. So I will only pick choices for her.

If she has several paths, I might had different paths to see her route. But, as with Bella in SG, I just cannot choose other girls over Katie.

Agree...new Miru is awesome beyond awesome....too awesome in fact now lmao.

As for the rest...well of course choccy vamp....Katie best girl there is, period. Always keep Katie happy

 

[BobTheDuck]

Nope...if you purposefully went down that route it was cannon. I'm talking the scene in her room where you get her off (slightly against her will) and leave thinking wtf just happened. Critical part of her path on that particular route.

Yeah new Kat is certainly incredibly awesome indeed (and sexy as hell)....very interesting...along with Daphne too...

Hmm possible...and old Dana was single before...wonder how that will play out as a Li now? Also be a shame if she not there as that was also quite an important moment talking with her before near the lake...

Agree...new Miru is awesome beyond awesome....too awesome in fact now lmao.

As for the rest...well of course choccy vamp....Katie best girl there is, period. Always keep Katie happy


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I must've chosen something differently, the only thing I vaguely remember was an extra scene with Katie after the prison (I think) and it didn't make sense to me as part of the story, you just appeared in her room despite having been in the hospital two seconds earlier, and you had the option to skip the scene. Oh no my bad - it was the extra scene in the middle of a camping trip, and it was based on a poll - suddenly Katie's on a train, then you have sex with her, then you're back on the camping trip. I must've completely missed the dildo scene.

Old Dana was in a relationship, she mentions it straight away when Willi meets her at the camping trip, mentioning that she told Leia she liked him, but Leia said Willi didn't care, so she moved on (you discover Leia's been cockblocking you). She also gets told they guy she's dating is awful in the old version, described as a cornelius who'll probably start crying after sex.

 

[hermit_tr]

Maybe Dana won't be on this camping trip and Kat will?

Hmm possible...and old Dana was single before...wonder how that will play out as a Li now? Also be a shame if she not there as that was also quite an important moment talking with her before near the lake...

It's possible that Dana went on a camping trip. at least according to Dana's rendering released by Ocean.

Either camp on the beach, or the lake

 

[Maviarab]

Oh no my bad - it was the extra scene in the middle of a camping trip, and it was based on a poll - suddenly Katie's on a train, then you have sex with her, then you're back on the camping trip

Yeah that was a bonus scene (and really good one too). You should replay the old version where you get her off in her room. Can't believe you didn't do that....scene to end all scenes in a VN hehe...this is the scene that cemented Katie right up there in my VN girl list. This is on her Sub route (she submissive to you): Old walkthrough:

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Old Dana was in a relationship, she mentions it straight away when Willi meets her at the camping trip

Hmmm now I don't recall that hehe....maybe I just didn't care about her bf and forgot about him cos...well..who cares...chasing Dana lmao.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Yeah that was a bonus scene (and really good one too). You should replay the old version where you get her off in her room. Can't believe you didn't do that....scene to end all scenes in a VN hehe...this is the scene that cemented Katie right up there in my VN girl list. This is on her Sub route (she submissive to you): Old walkthrough:

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Hmmm now I don't recall that hehe....maybe I just didn't care about her bf and forgot about him cos...well..who cares...chasing Dana lmao.

I always woke up in the hospital, I did once try the Miru NTR prison thing, but old Miru in that scene is the stuff of nightmares

 

[Maviarab]

I always woke up in the hospital, I did once try the Miru NTR prison thing, but old Miru in that scene is the stuff of nightmares

Can be done without Miru NTR...so can take the option with the female guard (dominate her). Just don't get beat up in prison and you will get the safe exit.

Edit: I'll say that's one huge improvement over the old version. It's good Ocean admitted he didn't know what he was doing and streamlined things a little. The old version had so many different paths and routes that I had about 25 saves to cover all the different permutations. I mean we had 3 different NTR routes for Miru (add 1 more route for if we cheated with Donna)...a blackmail route with Katie, Katies War (still have)..a Miru War with Katie route...Gina and Katie had both Love, Dom and Sub routes....Donna pregnant or not route (2 paths for Donna herself also), a route where Miru went after Donna (if preggers)...*shakes head*

Bloody minefield lol.

 

[Harmonyrose]

one question:
photograph nude is considered as porn these days?

 

[Maviarab]

one question:
photograph nude is considered as porn these days?

No. Did you read the actual dialogue?

Decided to do photoshoot/modelling 'first'....so still the porn route...but taking time to actually get there and build a fan base first.

 

[AlexFXR]

I always find it amazing how spoiled little bitches believe they have the right to demand stuff or complain about how developers do their job, which they steal from the web, WRITING IN A PIRATE FORUM.

Seriously... be a pirate if you must (we are all here, let's not kid ourselves) but at least have the decency to shut up instead of assuming you have the moral ground to tell people what to do with their life, their time and their work when you are just fucking stealing it!

Ocean is lucky that he left this site. You know that only 30% of fans have a permanent paid subscription, and the remaining 70% buy the game on release day and cannot visit his Patreon, so they are forced to visit sites like this. And you had the impudence or stupidity to offend them. I wonder what kind of fuss there will be if you show your comment to these people. Are you brave enough to send them your comment and then chat with them and tell them to their faces that they are little bitches? I highly doubt it.

 

[seifun]

Sorry am I missing something or what? each chapter so far rather looks to me like a game replay with small differences in the mid of the story and (almost) no story continuation...

 

[Maviarab]

Sorry am I missing something or what? each chapter so far rather looks to me like a game replay with small differences in the mid of the story and (almost) no story continuation...

If you mean compared to the original version then this is a complete rework to get it in line visually with Summer's Gone. it is still following the original story (largely) with a lot more detail and backstory being added. Ocean himself admits he did not know what he was doing originally and made a lot of mistakes.

We are currently about a third/half of the way through what was the old original version.

 

[Joshy92]

I find it really hard to play this game tbh.
The mc is a piece of shit.
We have a forced LI with no option to break up.
And I feel like every character knows stuff we don't and is always mentioning it.

Still there are going to be sharing scenes so I have to play.

It could be worse though at least there is no shitty sandbox.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

We have a forced LI with no option to break up.

Why would you want to? She's hot. She's willing to fulfill your every desire. She keeps your asshole MC in line. Bruh. She's perfect. Especially for you, when she starts sleeping with other dudes.