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RNasc4444

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Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

Not seeing that myself. They are playful with each other.

Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...besides, we don't know what for.

Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

While not favourable...Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

The only thing he has done, that we are aware, that is really shitty yes.
Hmmm...fair I guess. Depends on the perspective.

I'm fully on the camp of Willi being unlikeable/an asshole/a PoS but I can see how someone could have a milder opinion on him. Let's agree that he just isn't a nice person.
 

Fun Shaundi

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Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

Not seeing that myself. They are playful with each other.

Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...besides, we don't know what for.

Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

While not favourable...Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

The only thing he has done, that we are aware, that is really shitty yes.
I agree with those points. I also wouldn't go as far as calling him a piece of shit, but even the other characters mentioned what a freaking nightmare he was when he was a teen. He'd occasionally had good gestures, like defending the cafe girl when other kids were racist towards her, but he was also mocking her for her weight, he and Leia were mean to Katie for no reason, and according to characters' dialogue he was known in Wollust for being an asshole. There's a reason why all the girls get so mad at him when he was the Jabba comment, they just assumed to worst of him cause they know him.

I'll just go with 'charming asshole' for Willi.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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The only thing that has been shitty is how he treated the virgin at the party, and yes that does make him an asshole, but at this time
he was still very young and he deeply regrets it.
I was confused what everyone was talking about so I redownloaded game and breezed through and yeah, that's about the only scene that was a strike mark against his character. Not surprised I missed it though, it's like a 2 minute conversation then never revisited again (aside from short police station visit).

Also, most of these "asshole" points seem to be told as past stories, we don't see them happen in real time, so it doesn't carry the same weight.

I think there's something else going on here with how strongly some feel about the mc.
 

HiP1

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the present MC is not a complete asshole. he can be a jerk to Miru, they have playful banter with some dark humor, because that's their dynamic. if she didn't like it, she would not be with him.
We can see part of the current personality of MC during the first scene with Daphne, and when he spoke to the girl at the gas station. those are important to set a baseline and a reference to compare how he is described to be during his youth by others.

there is a clear difference, as in the present, he can poke at people but it won't be to intentionally hurt, and only crosses the line for a reason. while during his younger years, he just said and did the most hurtful stuff without care.
 

HentaiKami

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Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

Not seeing that myself. They are playful with each other.

Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...besides, we don't know what for.

Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

While not favourable...Doesn't make someone a piece of shit...

The only thing he has done, that we are aware, that is really shitty yes.
I would point out that he and the twin sister did bully their little sister quite heavily on occasion. More than just normal sibling bullying/fighting i would say. That would make him an asshole, until he actually is sorry for it.
 

BobTheDuck

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I would point out that he and the twin sister did bully their little sister quite heavily on occasion. More than just normal sibling bullying/fighting i would say. That would make him an asshole, until he actually is sorry for it.
The question is what your choices are as well - the way Willi talks about Katie, the way you can escalate things with her...

Even when you decide to do a 'good' Willi playthrough, his base actions are to poke fun at people, ignorant of consequences. He actually comes across as emotionally inconsistent - he'll defend Lucas from Kat, then suggest Mon could make more money in porn (even if you decide to be apologetic with her).

So I'm conflicted, either he's perceptive and keeps his thoughts to himself or plays people expertly (like the things he noticed with Donna, the subtle way her gets Katie to give him info about Kat) or he's an oblivious oaf who bulldozes over people's feelings (his souting about Katie in the gym is a good example, the stuff with Mon, the war with Katie etc). Either way he's manipulative, just like Leia and Katie, but he's also very impulsive.

He does have some redeeming qualities, otherwise the circle of friends wouldn't tolerate him and the family wouldn't be that glad to have him back. It'd be "oh look who slunk back with their tail between their legs" the whole time. Clearly he's not an asshole because he's evil, but because he's insensitive. Is there anything to say he's not on the spectrum (I mean heck we all are in some way)?
 

Joshy92

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I consider anyone who even calls a girl a slut to be an arsehole.
I judge other men very harshly thats why I don't like the mc.
 
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Joshy92

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Dude... you love sluts. Nothing wrong with a slut being called a slut.
True, but what if it upsets her?
Of course if the girl likes being called a slut then go wild.

I just feel like a lot of these mc's don't stop and consider the girls feelings before saying or doing things.
Oh, and you are absolutely right bro I love slutty girls.
 

GetOutOfMyLab

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True, but what if it upsets her?
Of course if the girl likes being called a slut then go wild.

I just feel like a lot of these mc's don't stop and consider the girls feelings before saying or doing things.
Oh, and you are absolutely right bro I love slutty girls.
Well, I imagine a lot of MC's personalities reflect the virgins who came up with them or the target audience of virgins who never had a girlfriend. I guess maybe they just think that's the way things work. :Kappa:

But you're right, if this were real life, I wouldn't be calling my girlfriend or a female friend a slut unless there was an understanding.
 
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Joshy92

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Well, I imagine a lot of MC's personalities reflect the virgins who came up with them or the target audience of virgins who never had a girlfriend. I guess maybe they just think that's the way things work. :Kappa:

But you're right, if this were real life, I wouldn't be calling my girlfriend or a female friend a slut unless there was an understanding.
I'm probably being a bit harsh.
It's just some of the first adult games I played had really creepy mc's
They did stuff like blackmailing their sisters and spying on them in the shower.

I'm more picky about what games I try now.
 

GetOutOfMyLab

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I'm probably being a bit harsh.
It's just some of the first adult games I played had really creepy mc's
They did stuff like blackmailing their sisters and spying on them in the shower.

I'm more picky about what games I try now.
I'm not a fan of creeping or sleep sex either. It's really gross to me. So if that's something that is the focus of a game, I won't play it for long either.
 

Joshy92

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I'm not a fan of creeping or sleep sex either. It's really gross to me. So if that's something that is the focus of a game, I won't play it for long either.
I remember when I started playing these games in late 2022
I didn't read comments or anything before playing games.

I do now though. Although sometimes I find a games description and tags to not be 100 percent accurate.
 
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