I would point out that he and the twin sister did bully their little sister quite heavily on occasion. More than just normal sibling bullying/fighting i would say. That would make him an asshole, until he actually is sorry for it.
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The question is what your choices are as well - the way Willi talks about Katie, the way you can escalate things with her...
Even when you decide to do a 'good' Willi playthrough, his base actions are to poke fun at people, ignorant of consequences. He actually comes across as emotionally inconsistent - he'll defend Lucas from Kat, then suggest Mon could make more money in porn (even if you decide to be apologetic with her).
So I'm conflicted, either he's perceptive and keeps his thoughts to himself or plays people expertly (like the things he noticed with Donna, the subtle way her gets Katie to give him info about Kat) or he's an oblivious oaf who bulldozes over people's feelings (his souting about Katie in the gym is a good example, the stuff with Mon, the war with Katie etc). Either way he's manipulative, just like Leia and Katie, but he's also very impulsive.
He does have some redeeming qualities, otherwise the circle of friends wouldn't tolerate him and the family wouldn't be that glad to have him back. It'd be "oh look who slunk back with their tail between their legs" the whole time. Clearly he's not an asshole because he's evil, but because he's insensitive. Is there anything to say he's not on the spectrum (I mean heck we all are in some way)?
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Dude... you love sluts. Nothing wrong with a slut being called a slut.
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True, but what if it upsets her?
Of course if the girl likes being called a slut then go wild.
I just feel like a lot of these mc's don't stop and consider the girls feelings before saying or doing things.
Oh, and you are absolutely right bro I love slutty girls.
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Well, I imagine a lot of MC's personalities reflect the virgins who came up with them or the target audience of virgins who never had a girlfriend. I guess maybe they just think that's the way things work.
But you're right, if this were real life, I wouldn't be calling my girlfriend or a female friend a slut unless there was an understanding.
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I'm probably being a bit harsh.Well, I imagine a lot of MC's personalities reflect the virgins who came up with them or the target audience of virgins who never had a girlfriend. I guess maybe they just think that's the way things work.
But you're right, if this were real life, I wouldn't be calling my girlfriend or a female friend a slut unless there was an understanding.
It's just some of the first adult games I played had really creepy mc's
They did stuff like blackmailing their sisters and spying on them in the shower.
I'm more picky about what games I try now.
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I'm not a fan of creeping or sleep sex either. It's really gross to me. So if that's something that is the focus of a game, I won't play it for long either.
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I remember when I started playing these games in late 2022
I didn't read comments or anything before playing games.
I do now though. Although sometimes I find a games description and tags to not be 100 percent accurate.
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sleep sex or a nice word to say rape lol. I never understood the appeal
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Now if Miru wanted to pee on me I would have no objections.
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Nice save from the sleeping sex topic bro
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Only about ten. The rest I just want to have sex with.
Miru is not one of the ten.
That said I would love to have sloppy seconds after a dozen guys cum in her.
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Just finished and I didn't see any of that happen. I heard talk about prison but never actually saw that scene. Are we talking about the same game?
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This is from the pre reworked version, which is now non canon. Ocean has so far broadly followed the same general structure, taking out details that were poorly written, and added details to make the plot more consistent. So no, these scenes aren't in the current release of the game, and might never be. But they'll likely show up in an improved form.
While we wait for updates, some of us look for details we missed in both the old version and the current to try and sleuth our way through Ocean's mysterious plot
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I've been playing this for the past 6 hours waiting for that Katie scene...This is from the pre reworked version, which is now non canon. Ocean has so far broadly followed the same general structure, taking out details that were poorly written, and added details to make the plot more consistent. So no, these scenes aren't in the current release of the game, and might never be. But they'll likely show up in an improved form.
While we wait for updates, some of us look for details we missed in both the old version and the current to try and sleuth our way through Ocean's mysterious plot
Important distinction of course is if the sleep sex happens with consent, then it's fine. Otherwise yeah, it's extremely creepy. And yes there's sleep sex that happens with consent that is given before hand, for example if someone were to tell their partner that they can wake them up by having sex with them.
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Yeah, in that case I don't find it gross, it's just not something I'm into. Though, I wouldn't turn it down if it was offered, either.