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1stly there were no evidence that he had a romantic relationship with his sister as far as i remember, 2nd hee did "seduced and fucked a virgin girl infatuated with him in a party and left her exposed for everyone to see" yeah that was stupid and shitty true but he had regret for doing that and i believe that the point is that he (MC) will have to redeem himself through the story for his mistakes...3dly ran away and abandoned his family and friends keeping next to no contact whatsoever with them??Not the best thing but still some members of his familly do worse things than that....
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MC clearly has been mostly around girls, he has no guy friend, only a few acquaintances at best (relatives of his friends or family). By now, he has learnt thousands times over that what he says has an effect on people, especially girls.
He knows without a doubt what he is doing, and when he says stuff, he aims for it to have an effect. He cannot predict with perfect accuracy what effect it will have, but he needs people to react as that will give him the advantage. and Miru covers his blind spots, pushing or pulling to adjust the result towards MC's goal.
He knows without a doubt what he is doing, and when he says stuff, he aims for it to have an effect. He cannot predict with perfect accuracy what effect it will have, but he needs people to react as that will give him the advantage. and Miru covers his blind spots, pushing or pulling to adjust the result towards MC's goal.
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I would also point out...as per the story and dialogue...when William was with Katie alone...they mostly got on just fine with each other. Never bullied her alone. It was never William and Katie who caused trouble...went looking for trouble, got into trouble...
The common denominator to a lot of (nearly all?) Williams behaviour? That's right...
Leia.
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Ahem chat 6 would take 2-3 years to be out IG ?
AT this pace chap 10 would be in none less than 5-6 years ?
AT this pace chap 10 would be in none less than 5-6 years ?
you think she tried to make him alienate himself so she could keep him all to herself ?
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Laugh all you want...I'm just presenting facts as presented in the story. Why do you find that so hard to believe?you think she tried to make him alienate himself so she could keep him all to herself ?
Never been around a truly jealous, obsessive person I take it have you?
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Multiply by two, bro, cause he releases it by half-chapters, next release gonna be chapter 3.5.
So stay healthy and exercise your body if you want to see the conclusion of this story!
And don't forget the broccoli!
don't worry, i'm not laughing at what you said. I found the situation funny in regards to Leia's projected personality and how hard she tries to stay aloof.
and no, I never met a truly jealous and obsessive partner (or at least, none that revealed themselves to be). I only experienced reasonable levels of jealousy or absolute trust.
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Yeah that's fair. I already stated that maybe calling him a pos might be too much. Other than the stuff he did to Monica (which is abominable imo) he might just be a bit of an asshole.
We do know that whatever he was doing with Leia was real and damning enough for little Katie to know it was wrong and the mere threat of her telling anyone sent the MC running. And even after running, causing immeasurable pain to Leia that molded her into the bitch she is now, riddling Katie with guilt over that empty threat, possibly being the main reason for the strain in his parents marriage, he still acts a little dickish towards them. Except maybe Helen, which I assume is mostly due to her condition or he would probably give her a hard time too. But yeah we still lack a lot of context and perspective.
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No evidence of romance ...except for the flashback that was added in CH3 Full, and the implications of carving on the tree, and the reason he left Mon on the kitchen table was to be with the one he loved... and because it was the central canon of the original pre-rework. I can't imagine the game would drop that, especially as they are 'just friends' (as Leia smirks in the official release).
He's not complete trash, but he does have plenty of work in front to redeem himself ...and ultimately that is part of why he came back. Seeing how emotional he got when discovering Helen had an accident does show he has some redeeming features. Kicking spiders towards a person with no panties on though... not sure I would forgive him for that if I was Miru.
Other family members doing worse - we'll have to see what the situation is fully to appreciate who is the worst. My money is on Leia still.
Guy friend Sven at very least. But keeping in mind that all his female friends still hang out with his family. Zoey is Katie's gf, Dana, Mon and Gina all hang out with Katie. Scarlet, Helen, Katie and Leia are family. Daphne and Donna appear to be the only significant female characters not in the family or connected through the family.
It's likely he left without phone numbers or couldn't get in contact with anyone after prison. At the start during the talks with Miru and Daphne, they mention couples who are friends, so Willi does have other male friends, but I'm guessing he's learnt to bea bit of a lone wolf since prison.
...Heck, maybe Katie and Zoey are an item because there's a lack of non gang males who aren't betas. I mean Gina and Dana's bf's are made to be pretty lame. Nothing the girls can do to win Emilio. Maybe Willi is set to raise up an army of sons to even up the gender imbalance in Wollust?
Except that clearly isn't true if you buy the spicy burger or smother Katie with Helen's underwear. Willi doesn't take responsibility for what came before, but I think we'll see that redemptive arc become more obvious.
But yeah, Leia. I think I prefer bitchy Leia, because I don't feel the need to explain anything to her. It's not just Katie she trash talks, it seems she doesn't give a damn about anyone - cold blooded like a snake, and toxic. When Willi tells her he was in prison, she doesn't really care about his trauma, forbids him from her work etc. She blames him for her trauma, and she seems to be the obsessive one. Think about the way she calls Willi - he arrives after a couple of days being told Helen had an accident ...the case is already closed in less than a week, everyone's adjusted to Helen not talking already. Leia reached out to Willi when it suited her, for her own specific plans.
I'm actually hazardously optimistic based on how many different scenes Ocean has been rendering and how enthusiatic he is about the cards potential now he has them and has been playing with them. I know it's foolish to hope, but damn it, hope hits me faster than the updates!
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The incident with the virgin girl being left exposed for everyone to see was a very shitty thing to do no matter how you look at it ...I believe that it will take a lot of effort from her to forgive him if she ever does....Leia is selfish and called William only whe it suits her...she is involved in drug trafficking/ prostitution and that made her a target not only for law enforcement but for other bad type of people that have no problem killing...Dylan for some reason saw 7 times an uknown person walking around outside their house at night and never thought of calling the police...That is a dick move and pretty dangerous attitude
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Personally i don't really understand the relationship that William has with Leia.. Are they friends???neighbours?Classmates??or Siblings if they are siblings then i get the whole wrong type of thing but other than that they could have a relationshipNo evidence of romance ...except for the flashback that was added in CH3 Full, and the implications of carving on the tree, and the reason he left Mon on the kitchen table was to be with the one he loved... and because it was the central canon of the original pre-rework. I can't imagine the game would drop that, especially as they are 'just friends' (as Leia smirks in the official release).
He's not complete trash, but he does have plenty of work in front to redeem himself ...and ultimately that is part of why he came back. Seeing how emotional he got when discovering Helen had an accident does show he has some redeeming features. Kicking spiders towards a person with no panties on though... not sure I would forgive him for that if I was Miru.
Other family members doing worse - we'll have to see what the situation is fully to appreciate who is the worst. My money is on Leia still.
Guy friend Sven at very least. But keeping in mind that all his female friends still hang out with his family. Zoey is Katie's gf, Dana, Mon and Gina all hang out with Katie. Scarlet, Helen, Katie and Leia are family. Daphne and Donna appear to be the only significant female characters not in the family or connected through the family.
It's likely he left without phone numbers or couldn't get in contact with anyone after prison. At the start during the talks with Miru and Daphne, they mention couples who are friends, so Willi does have other male friends, but I'm guessing he's learnt to bea bit of a lone wolf since prison.
...Heck, maybe Katie and Zoey are an item because there's a lack of non gang males who aren't betas. I mean Gina and Dana's bf's are made to be pretty lame. Nothing the girls can do to win Emilio. Maybe Willi is set to raise up an army of sons to even up the gender imbalance in Wollust?
Except that clearly isn't true if you buy the spicy burger or smother Katie with Helen's underwear. Willi doesn't take responsibility for what came before, but I think we'll see that redemptive arc become more obvious.
But yeah, Leia. I think I prefer bitchy Leia, because I don't feel the need to explain anything to her. It's not just Katie she trash talks, it seems she doesn't give a damn about anyone - cold blooded like a snake, and toxic. When Willi tells her he was in prison, she doesn't really care about his trauma, forbids him from her work etc. She blames him for her trauma, and she seems to be the obsessive one. Think about the way she calls Willi - he arrives after a couple of days being told Helen had an accident ...the case is already closed in less than a week, everyone's adjusted to Helen not talking already. Leia reached out to Willi when it suited her, for her own specific plans.
I'm actually hazardously optimistic based on how many different scenes Ocean has been rendering and how enthusiatic he is about the cards potential now he has them and has been playing with them. I know it's foolish to hope, but damn it, hope hits me faster than the updates!
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How can you not understand? Seriously?
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Zane isn't a common surname where I live, just sayin'
Edit: Also, officially (as in the official release as released), no matter what anyone says, they are just friends, and Leia smirks when saying this. Just friends with the same surname.
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They are victims of the censorship
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Well, anything goes in war and love.
And you mustn't forget that Miru first played dirty to lure William with her thong.
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I'd take the hit if I was William - I mean, what is Miru going to do if she wins but make him pound her without using up a poundy coupon? Seems to me Willi's willy wins with or without any tactics in that scene.Well, anything goes in war and love.
And you mustn't forget that Miru first played dirty to lure William with her thong.
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Zane as a surname does not exist where i live so i can't say if it is common or not...But in my country surname some times does not mean that 2 people are brother/sister/cousins etc.Zane isn't a common surname where I live, just sayin'
Edit: Also, officially (as in the official release as released), no matter what anyone says, they are just friends, and Leia smirks when saying this. Just friends with the same surname.
Helen seems to be the only character that absolutely no one disrespects. even MC wouldn't, even if she didn't have her accident.
they were young, maybe what they did was barely anything (in this version). it could just be some touch experimenting at best, or just showing some naked parts, for curiosity's sake. and they felt guilty enough that he didn't want to face the consequences of that back then. because now, it seems the fact that he left is more serious than what they did.