VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

I was assuming that the flashback happen around 14 maybe 15 and William leaves around 17/18. I am no biologist, but a flat chested 15 years old is not unreasonable in my point of view, and they don't grow over night, maybe William leaves right around the time they began to show up but are not as big as they are now. When you say teenager you mean what age ? I can't see William leaving before 16 at minimum, if so he had a real wild adolescence, still there is the question of the prison. He seemed to have been jailed right after he runs way, would he have gone to prison if he was a minor ?

Yeah, I agree is one too many lawyers but at the same time is the only thing I can come up with. I like the idea of social worker, but she seems to young to that, I have considered that her family helped him. Young man lost in the world, gets helped by two good Christians and fascinates their protected daughter, but don't sits right with me,

I really hope that at least the Leia relationship gets a bit more clear. Even if it raises 10 more questions, some answers would be welcomed.

William clearly notices that Leia has boobs that she didn't before, and the flashback to her after he left is not that of a 17 year old, mentions she refused to go to school (not college, but school). So, William did leave before the end of school. Mon is out of academy, working, Dana is working, with a reputation and success, Leia has a business empire, at the bare minimum they're what? 25 now? Katie is still at college, so there can't be much more than 5 years between them, but Dana needs enough time to finish law and practice, which is probably a longer time frame than Mon needs to be working, and Leia needs time to develop a business AND an informations network/gang.

So the time frames are pretty messed up. But William definitely left before school finished (currently). Flat chested 15 is not an issue, flat chested 18 when they get that ridiculously large is not very believable. Maybe this area will get redone a bit, because the timeframe is currently so implausible.

I played this a while back and resumed from a save i had. can someone give me a summery of the what is the relation between each character to the MC. With the patch ON

There's no point. Ocean has recently decided as of ch 4 that the relationships will be different, to streamline the story. Right now, all we know is Miru is William's gf and Leia is William's sister. We don't know much more than that, other than most likely all the other relationships are as is. Right now it'll make more sense to wait for ch4 to work out who is who, as the patch won't be relevant to ch 4 anyway.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Willi not being faithful.

Or William was lying to himself until Monica, covering it all up with "twin bonding"

 

[LHDLLB]

So the time frames are pretty messed up. But William definitely left before school finished (currently). Flat chested 15 is not an issue, flat chested 18 when they get that ridiculously large is not very believable. Maybe this area will get redone a bit, because the timeframe is currently so implausible.

I agree about the timeframe being messed up, and William leaving while in school. I don't know how it is in another countries, but in my, depending on when is your birthday you can end high school as a 17/18 years old, but there is the question of Leia's boob, I don't know how too explain that.

 

[sorco2003]

I agree about the timeframe being messed up, and William leaving while in school. I don't know how it is in another countries, but in my, depending on when is your birthday you can end high school as a 17/18 years old, but there is the question of Leia's boob, I don't know how too explain that.

I think, if my memory serves me correctly, that William in chapter one says that he ran away when he was 16 years old. And I also seem to remember that Ocean once stated William's age in a reply on Discord (25 or 26 I can't remember) I remember correctly that Katie is 21 (which I found a bit strange to be true, but it doesn't contradict anything).
Leia´s tits? A decade growing up or... cosmetic surgery.



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[Dr.TSoni]

but there is the question of Leia's boob, I don't know how too explain that.

In the past the age at which William disappeared was 16. now I don't know how realistic a late puberty at 16 is

 

[LHDLLB]

I think, if my memory serves me correctly, that William in chapter one says that he ran away when he was 16 years old. And I also seem to remember that Ocean once stated William's age in a reply on Discord (25 or 26 I can't remember) I remember correctly that Katie is 21 (which I found a bit strange to be true, but it doesn't contradict anything).
Leia´s tits? A decade growing up or... cosmetic surgery.



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My bad, Didn't remember that. 16 is a bit too young, the timeline is even more compressed than I thought, everything has to have happened in a little more than a year. From Wlliam and Leia dating to Monica incident, is a much shorter time than I was guessing.

 

[Maviarab]

Far too much conflabbing about unimportant characters, so here's more Kat

 

[99PSYCHO99]

The best image so far for me . Can someone make a signature out of this please

 

[Adhdclassic]

I think, if my memory serves me correctly, that William in chapter one says that he ran away when he was 16 years old. And I also seem to remember that Ocean once stated William's age in a reply on Discord (25 or 26 I can't remember) I remember correctly that Katie is 21 (which I found a bit strange to be true, but it doesn't contradict anything).
Leia´s tits? A decade growing up or... cosmetic surgery.



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Maybe when she was self hurting(not eating) herself her boobs weren't growing at the normal rate it should have. The moment she started getting back to her physical self. Like when you get big too fast you get stretch mark on certain bodyparts maybe her nipples stretched out. who knows still I'd lick'em.

 

[maroek]

Maybe when she was self hurting(not eating) herself her boobs weren't growing at the normal rate it should have. The moment she started getting back to her physical self. Like when you get big too fast you get stretch mark on certain bodyparts maybe her nipples stretched out. who knows still I'd lick'em.

That actually makes sense. Malnutrition can effect females worse than males, especially during puberty.

 

[Maviarab]

Maybe when she was self hurting(not eating) herself her boobs weren't growing at the normal rate it should have. The moment she started getting back to her physical self. Like when you get big too fast you get stretch mark on certain bodyparts maybe her nipples stretched out. who knows still I'd lick'em.

That actually makes sense. Malnutrition can effect females worse than males, especially during puberty.

Especially given breast tissue is pretty much mostly fat.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

maybe her nipples stretched out

Considering we've seen similar nipples on other characters before, it's likely Ocean's new fad.
But far too much conflabbing about unimportant characters, so here's more Katie

 

[Adhdclassic]

Considering we've seen similar nipples on other characters before, it's likely Ocean's new fad.
But far too much conflabbing about unimportant characters, so here's more Katie
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The real answer lies with Helen if she is still Leias mother lets see her nipples

 

[Dr.TSoni]

The real answer lies with Helen if she is still Leias mother lets see her nipples

Imagine the conversation "Mom I need to see your nipples... for scientific reasons" XD

 

[Adhdclassic]

Imagine the conversation "Mom I need to see your nipples... for scientific reasons" XD

Just send in William. Mom lets see those tiddies.

 

[Maviarab]

Just send in William. Mom lets see those tiddies.

 

[BobTheDuck]

The real answer lies with Helen if she is still Leias mother lets see her nipples

Except Ocean has stated that William's only actual relative is Leia, that means Leia can't be related to Helen, otherwise, William would also be related to Helen.

 

[maroek]

Except Ocean has stated that William's only actual relative is Leia, that means Leia can't be related to Helen, otherwise, William would also be related to Helen.

Are we still discussing this subject like landlady-tennant stuff? Come on people, that's just a detour against censorship.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Are we still discussing this subject like landlady-tennant stuff? Come on people, that's just a detour against censorship.

No, quoting the change Ocean posted in the second last devlog, where he admits Leia and William are related, but no one else is related to William but Leia. I quoted and highlighted the relevant section.

Change.
I had faced an issue ever since I started thinking about WIAB on Steam... With the events that went down in March and WiAB losing 98% of its support overnight, I was forced to find a solution to the following question much earlier than expected:

"How to publish WiAB on Steam/GOG and for the story, etc. to make sense?"

With the new update, there will be some changes to a certain part of the game. And they might be an issue for some people, and welcomed by others.

The only person related to William (MC) is Leia.

Certain love stories will feel much more natural, solving a big issue I faced in Season 2. You'll see how it feels and plays out in the next update.

The further we get, the bigger its impact.

 

[RNasc4444]

No, quoting the change Ocean posted in the second last devlog, where he admits Leia and William are related, but no one else is related to William but Leia. I quoted and highlighted the relevant section.

Actually, yes.
No?

You are kinda proving that user's point. Ocean is proving his point. These changes are merely being done to circumvent the incest issue so he can keep kowtowing to publishers.

No matter how the story shapes up, my head canon will never change because I'm aware of this fact. Willi, Leia and Katie are actual siblings. They are the son and daughters of Helen and Dylan. Just like Nami is the biological sister of SG's MC.

All this means is that Ocean bludgened the "Evil Modder" to death in his basement and from now on, only the censored version will be published. Which is fine, I mod/edit every single game I play anyways. I can still keep the continuity in my head.

Discussing both games here on F95 is gonna be a struggle though as I will be playing a very different game from everyone else