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sorco2003

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Can't corrupt her when she's already trying hard to get that little sweet bun a-bakin'in her oven :WeSmart:

Unless Willi is planning on pregnant porn as the starter for Miru's debut?
Why not? it's the perfect blackmail! William: “if you want to have Ayua, sleep with those two... yes Abella Danger and Mia Malkova” a perfect plan of corruption!
 

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Why not? it's the perfect blackmail! William: “if you want to have Ayua, sleep with those two... yes Abella Danger and Mia Malkova” a perfect plan of corruption!
Miru: "I need sweetbun Ayua!"
Willi: "I will(i) withhold sex unless you give me porno sex."
Willi's Willy: "Hey boss, you want that I should keep shootin' blanks or what?" *one-eyed wink*
Miru: "Hey! Why are you talking to wormy???"
 

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Did I miss something?
Ocean said in this devlog about change that the only person related to William is Leia (which also means the only person related to Leia is William of course).

We don't actually know who is Zane or not - it could be that Ocean will change the names of Ayua or Katie to fit the new reality, because we don't know if Katie Zane in SG is a Zane because she's Helen's daughter or what anymore.

This is why I am impatient for WiaB's update, because it will let us know where the whole series is heading.
 

yossa999

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What's the point if we can't put anything inside Ayua?
The point is that by the time SG begins we get Bella in one piece, arrogant and sassy as we like. Otherwise Ceril would have probably broken her at the school.

EDIT: And don't forget about the bait with fighty fight. Guys have been saying for years, "Oh, and don't forget, the next update should have a sparring scene at Ayua's martial arts studio." And they always touched their private parts when they said it.
 
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sorco2003

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Ocean said in this devlog about change that the only person related to William is Leia (which also means the only person related to Leia is William of course).

We don't actually know who is Zane or not - it could be that Ocean will change the names of Ayua or Katie to fit the new reality, because we don't know if Katie Zane in SG is a Zane because she's Helen's daughter or what anymore.

This is why I am impatient for WiaB's update, because it will let us know where the whole series is heading.
And the last three days of debate have been due to the lack of the so promised and long awaited log with numbers... now we have another 15 days to continue talking about what we have been talking about, that is Katie, always Katie. :love:
 

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And the last three days of debate have been due to the lack of the so promised and long awaited log with numbers... now we have another 15 days to continue talking about what we have been talking about, that is Katie, always Katie. :love:
Yeah, I don't remember a log being so late. Hopefully is good news and he will delivery the renders count with a release date ?
 

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Ocean said in this devlog about change that the only person related to William is Leia (which also means the only person related to Leia is William of course).

We don't actually know who is Zane or not - it could be that Ocean will change the names of Ayua or Katie to fit the new reality, because we don't know if Katie Zane in SG is a Zane because she's Helen's daughter or what anymore.

This is why I am impatient for WiaB's update, because it will let us know where the whole series is heading.
A lot of theories sucked from the Ocean's statement that now only MC and Leia are related.
Ahh, you guys are talking about this stuff.

Well, I'm sorry to be that guy - but the William/Leia stuff is already out of the window, at least from official side. Or better to say, that specific sentence was removed from the SS devlog one or two days after it was released.

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As you can see, that line is now missing.
 

sorco2003

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Ahh, you guys are talking about this stuff.

Well, I'm sorry to be that guy - but the William/Leia stuff is already out of the window, at least from official side. Or better to say, that specific sentence was removed from the SS devlog one or two days after it was released.

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As you can see, that line is now missing.
You have to understand us, there are no subs left in the conversation... :p
Annnddddddddddd changes... changes every where! now is triple misterious. This give us a lot of months of debate.:LOL:
 

LHDLLB

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Ahh, you guys are talking about this stuff.

Well, I'm sorry to be that guy - but the William/Leia stuff is already out of the window, at least from official side. Or better to say, that specific sentence was removed from the SS devlog one or two days after it was released.

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As you can see, that line is now missing.
Ocean is retconning devlogs now, truly nothing is real. I will have good faith and say he is just being extra careful, but this puzzles to no end.

This same year there was a hyper-delay, which resulted in a ban... Well, and in the past it was something common and commonplace.
Hopefully nothing this bad. I don't worry much about the delay, life happens, just that for as long as I follow they are not common. Am trying to spin it into a good light.
 

BobTheDuck

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Ahh, you guys are talking about this stuff.

Well, I'm sorry to be that guy - but the William/Leia stuff is already out of the window, at least from official side. Or better to say, that specific sentence was removed from the SS devlog one or two days after it was released.

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As you can see, that line is now missing.
It is of course better to wait and see what the changes are. Merely deleting a line can be something misspoken or deciding to keep something private.

As long as certain love stories feel more natural and they solve that same issue in season 2 that we know nothing about, we still get the "same same but different" result right? After all, with that line deleted, the goals are still stated as the same. And maybe more importantly, we know Ocean was considering that situation it for long enough and seriously enough to put in a devlog, even if retracted. He didn't wake up on devlog day and decide to write that statement in a drug haze

...or did he???
:coffee::unsure:
 

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Ocean is retconning devlogs now, truly nothing is real. I will have good faith and say he is just being extra careful, but this puzzles to no end.
I have asked about this change of the devlog in a DM on discord directly on the same days as it has happened. And no, will not share my chat history with Ocean here - you have to trust me, beside this it's only in German and only a handful here could get something out of this.

His answer was more or less your suspicion from just now. He fears that someone could come after him through old devlogs, looks like that SS is not the safe harbour for this kind of stuff as we all have thought.

Ocean biggest goal for the future is to achieve as much independence as possible from Patreon/SS.

MY personal opinion is, as soon Ocean have reached this goal he can be more or less open speak and write about this kind of stuff.
 

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I have asked about this change of the devlog in a DM on discord directly on the same days as it has happened. And no, will not share my chat history with Ocean here - you have to trust me, beside this it's only in German and only a handful here could get something out of this.

His answer was more or less your suspicion from just now. He fears that someone could come after him through old devlogs, looks like that SS is not the safe harbour for this kind of stuff as we all have thought.

Ocean biggest goal for the future is to achieve as much independence as possible from Patreon/SS.

MY personal opinion is, as soon Ocean have reached this goal he can be more or less open speak and write about this kind of stuff.
Oh I would never, yours conversation are your alone. While I can understand his reasons, this answer puzzles me further as now I fear that Chapter 4 will not clear the fog as I thought it would. I assumed the cat was out of the bag, but Ocean shoved it right back into it.

Independence is a very good thing but not easy to obtain, or keep it. My understanding is that the problems is not Patreon but the cards companies, I don’t see how he can be independent from that.
 

sorco2003

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Oh I would never, yours conversation are your alone. While I can understand his reasons, this answer puzzles me further as now I fear that Chapter 4 will not clear the fog as I thought it would. I assumed the cat was out of the bag, but Ocean shoved it right back into it.

Independence is a very good thing but not easy to obtain, or keep it. My understanding is that the problems is not Patreon but the cards companies, I don’t see how he can be independent from that.
Not totally independent, no. But it is comfortable, if the numbers go with you, you can move on platforms with more back that will, at least, support you if the conditions allow it.
Only fans, Steam, Fansly... places where the volume of business still allows certain things that Patreon does not.
Or in the most extreme case, your own marketer, such as Fresh Women or Perverteer... taking pay pal out of the equation.
 
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