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I have little hope for it's future given the changes that are about to be introduced but as it stands I think it's a far better game than SG in all regards. And I'm not just saying this to give @Maviarab a W
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Who looks more realistic?Okay, let's make a comparison.
Who looks better:
Inbreed MCretarded:
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Willian “I am supposedly the father of half of the SG cast” zane:
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Average looking dude
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Chippendale beefcake & underwear model
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What the fuck were you waiting for, most AVN MC are average compared to William.
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While I like William a lot he definitely needs some time to grow on you, his designs at times don't look real. I do like it, but it took a while. Nika is much better in my opinion, even with his anime hair.
A thing that grates me is when you see variations of the same 3D model used in multiple AVNs. William's 3D model reminds me of the MC from LoF and the MC of Artemis (to name but two). At least the average looking dude seems unique.
Having said that, I think William's 3D model and appearance fit his character well, and Ocean plays to the beefcake look (William turning jealous dudes' heads at the gym)..
I think it became clear with the start of the Patreon clampdowns (which predated WIAB's Patreon demise) that Ocean faced a choice of making things somewhat vanilla in WIAB or risking losing the income streams on his investment. He's already been "bitten" twice, so I cannot fault him for taking steps to safeguard his investment, even if that means he cannot deliver the product he originally intended.
I recall having a back-and-forth in this thread several months ago with someone who seemed to think the likes of SS and Steam would never ban or censor WIAB-like content because they don't do it now. Boy, that position could age like milk in the future, who knows? The point is that any Dev who creates certain themes and content cannot trust third-party service providers in the current environment.
I accepted long ago that I prefer to have new vanilla SG/WIAB content rather than the demise of the projects and no new content all all because Ocean's income streams were cut off by third-party service providers. It's a bitch (especially for WIAB, because certain themes and content create much of the drama) but it is what it is...
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Average looking dude looks remarkably average, extra medium with a side of ultra beige.
Chippendale beefcake & underwear model is a poser, completely in character.
This is mostly my attitude. I'd rather have a dumbed down epic that is still cared for and still treated as a creative endeavour by its dev than have a dev give up in general. What Ocean does to protect his stories' futures he does because he's still got something he wants to keep telling. It would be easier for him to get a wage in IT or design at this point, his skills and assets could land him a decent job without dealing with pirates demands for more dark questionable segs with spicy chicken burgers.
Given that he's skilled enough to find a job as a subordinate earning well and not being responsible for the project's outcomes, it's a deliberate choice for him to keep his stories' universe alive. I don't know Ocean's personal goals, but it's got to be easier earning money as a vanilla employee - being able to explain you work for a mainstream dev would be so much simpler instead of telling people "what I do for a living isn't exactly porn despite the stigma, gosh don't be so narrow minded!" I can imagine there's a whole bunch of people in his life he keeps the details from. I'm glad he's persistent and enjoys his stories enough to keep independent.
Edit: almost forgot - there's always a chance that the vanilla version becomes more compelling than the original. What we have in our mind's eye is the potential we saw, not the actual delivery of an awesome product. We were (in both Ocean's games) captivated by the direction. But there can be other directions worth travelling, even if they're not the same. As long as Ocean keeps trying to make a compelling story, I'll keep watching this space. Even with the inconsistencies, it's much better a plot than "man has donkey dick and fell into 20 vaginas while going for coffee" ...well that hasn't happened to me yet
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It's still not here, and seems pretty unlikely to be before the end of the year. I hope I'm wrong.
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Probably before GTA VI...maybe...
Lol, dev went from 2 updates per year to barely an update a year with how things are going.
He made it clear with his constant posts that the updates will come in faster for both games after Summer's Gone steam release but all it did is made the updates slower. And not to mention that recent updates for both games barely had story progress or quality.
Won't be long before the dev just disappears/gives up and these 2 games are either abandoned or "remade".
He made it clear with his constant posts that the updates will come in faster for both games after Summer's Gone steam release but all it did is made the updates slower. And not to mention that recent updates for both games barely had story progress or quality.
Won't be long before the dev just disappears/gives up and these 2 games are either abandoned or "remade".
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You're so totally not the 1312th one who made the GTA6 joke when it comes to updates.
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