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Until proven otherwise, June. (open to retcon possibilities)
... but he did not specify the yearWhat do you mean, June?
GoG page is up, about 400 remaining renders are in the queue, workstation on the way.
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She's fucking perfect!
Sometimes I wonder, is it really Helen or the monster who ate Helen ?
Some pics from a time the world was still in order
Dana
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Yeah. Ch1 Leia was really a thing
Part two since I do not want to make the single posts too large.
Helen not a biological abomination
Monika
While new Miru is a mega upgrade, old Miru had some charm, no matter what some players say
Helen not a biological abomination
Monika
While new Miru is a mega upgrade, old Miru had some charm, no matter what some players say
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Mônica is great. But old Miru is indefensible getting rid of her alone justifies the rework. She was ugly, annoying. No. Old Miru is the worst. Is a statement how much Ocean improved that I know Love Miru when I absolutely hated her before. and I usually don't hate any LI.Part two since I do not want to make the single posts too large.
Helen not a biological abomination
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Part 3
Leia again
old Emilie, Dana, Zoey and Kati (with Emilie we see the beginning of Ocean´s statement of "breasts are airship floatation devices")
Dana again
new Leia before being ruined with bolt-ons
Leia again
old Emilie, Dana, Zoey and Kati (with Emilie we see the beginning of Ocean´s statement of "breasts are airship floatation devices")
Dana again
new Leia before being ruined with bolt-ons
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She?
Store saleswoman, her sister is Katie's classmate, she helps Miru and Wlliam by showing the video of how Abigail was the one who misbehaved with Miru, in return she asks William to stop Katie from bothering her sister.
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Wow... I had almost forgotten there was a time Dana, Helen and Leia actually looked like healthy, normal and attractive human beings... Sad to see where we ended upPart 3
Leia again
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Dana again
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Yes. So was Abigail who arrested Miru ? Seems like I had a false memory then, thought it was her who was the cop
Part 4
new Miru
new Zoey
new Miru
new Zoey
I fear the two girls above are one big reason for this. His rework of Miru and Zoey went really, really well! Unfortunately, it seems it gave him the belief all his ideas for finetuning characters were great. I don´t know from where he got the idea the players would like the grotesque dimensions to which he step by step destroys the character desings. Some of the "upgrades" in the last time in both WIAB and SG are retch-inducing.Wow... I had almost forgotten there was a time Dana, Helen and Leia actually looked like healthy, normal and attractive human beings... Sad to see where we ended up
I think the old model of Miru was also an absolute AVN whore as well. She appeared in so many different AVNs back then.
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Model wise, the old one's face screams "slut" to me, and I liked it because it fitted her actions.
The new one is good too but the face screams "young" to me, however, if you're following this for the Miru NTR Path, like myself, then she could be a dwarf for all I care.
On the scale of things, it is nothing compared to the years without progress in that said path, even before the rework.
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I'm fine with ALL my theories being retconned into insignificance. If the story is good, I like surprises. I'll still overthink the development the whole way, because we all see things differently and I love hearing how other people discover perspectives and details I've missed.
If we go by the redacted devlog, Ocean is not planning on a completely vanilla/beige sanitised game, but a stable development. What that means in practical terms can't really be second guessed. If one blood relative, why not all? Who is even a LI? Maybe Miru does cut off Willi's dick, and the NTR is Willi not bing able to do anything but sit in the cuck chair for the remaining game.
Is it though? What Ocean said in that devlog doesn't necessitate name changes. We're operating on the assumption of who is or isn't a LI, and who hasn't already been mentioned in SG. Ocean can still stealth update SG's script if he choses (I'd consider it poor form, but it's possible), or the story he's telling still has them with the same names even though not blood related. He did specifiy who wasn't related by blood, specifically. I think it's an acceptable belief if there are such things as blood relations, there are also people related but not by blood (related through marriage, adoption whatever). Even these things are up for grabs until he puts his cards on the table.
MY guess is it'll be obscure in Ch4 (unless the awkward Willi/Katie?helen hug is a moment when their pasts are explained), but there will be enough clarity to make far more reasonable assumptions than what we have now. If Ocean leaves us in limbo, well, it's going to suck to wait for CH5 to find out more I guess.
Monica was at the store as well. After William punches Abigail for standing on Miru's head, Monica arrests him, but he gets away because Sedila proves Abigail was standing on Miru's head - which happened while Sedila and Willi catch up on the past. Which he also does with Monica when she arrives, despite having punched Abigail to ahego and back. What, this was actual writing of the golden age? If by golden, you mean we mean I pissed myself laughing I guess?
Oh wait... who's this guy? I'd forgotten this happened.
Edit: Also, what an excellent couple of pages discussion, sad I missed out
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People on the Discord and Steam maybe? I mean, it's okay to have curvy girls too, Emily in the old WiAB was far from a fit-cutie, but changing the existed, recognizable and establised characters not the best idea, it's like changing an actor in the middle of the movie. Alhough I have nothing against the new Dana, especially if there will be an option to make her fit again.
But censoring female body types in general, like you guys are trying to do, seems completely ridiculous to me. Don't you think what you don't like, other people might. There are dudes who call any girl under 5'7 a shrimp. Honestly, I don't give a shit about their opinions or their tastes. I find petite girls quite attractive. Should I harass Ocean for making all the girls in the game except Miru a herd of giraffes?
Alas, that poor little critter in the last picture was so frightened and traumatized by the fracas in the store, it was still furiously running away some 20 years later, and happened to bolt through ZPR college, hardly touching the ground.I'm fine with ALL my theories being retconned into insignificance. If the story is good, I like surprises. I'll still overthink the development the whole way, because we all see things differently and I love hearing how other people discover perspectives and details I've missed.
If we go by the redacted devlog, Ocean is not planning on a completely vanilla/beige sanitised game, but a stable development. What that means in practical terms can't really be second guessed. If one blood relative, why not all? Who is even a LI? Maybe Miru does cut off Willi's dick, and the NTR is Willi not bing able to do anything but sit in the cuck chair for the remaining game.
Is it though? What Ocean said in that devlog doesn't necessitate name changes. We're operating on the assumption of who is or isn't a LI, and who hasn't already been mentioned in SG. Ocean can still stealth update SG's script if he choses (I'd consider it poor form, but it's possible), or the story he's telling still has them with the same names even though not blood related. He did specifiy who wasn't related by blood, specifically. I think it's an acceptable belief if there are such things as blood relations, there are also people related but not by blood (related through marriage, adoption whatever). Even these things are up for grabs until he puts his cards on the table.
MY guess is it'll be obscure in Ch4 (unless the awkward Willi/Katie?helen hug is a moment when their pasts are explained), but there will be enough clarity to make far more reasonable assumptions than what we have now. If Ocean leaves us in limbo, well, it's going to suck to wait for CH5 to find out more I guess.
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Monica was at the store as well. After William punches Abigail for standing on Miru's head, Monica arrests him, but he gets away because Sedila proves Abigail was standing on Miru's head - which happened while Sedila and Willi catch up on the past. Which he also does with Monica when she arrives, despite having punched Abigail to ahego and back. What, this was actual writing of the golden age? If by golden, you mean we mean I pissed myself laughing I guess?
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Edit: Also, what an excellent couple of pages discussion, sad I missed out
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Alas, that poor little critter in the last picture was so frightened and traumatized by the fracas in the store, it was still furiously running away some 20 years later, and happened to bolt through ZPR college, hardly touching the ground.
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Enquiring minds wish to know.
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What have they done with Siebert?Alas, that poor little critter in the last picture was so frightened and traumatized by the fracas in the store, it was still furiously running away some 20 years later, and happened to bolt through ZPR college, hardly touching the ground.
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