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That's brilliant...now if you'll escuse me..need to wipe coffee up from my keyboard and monitor
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Because it makes the game world interesting ..... otherwise it would be another game with monotonous world like all 5 star games...were you can skip like 95% of content
again imagin game of thrones without any drama ,intrigues ,competition.....
sex VN games have this problem... they are mostly boring
thats why I am worried for SG that it also turns into monotonous world
WIAB has potential to be the best VN in story way ...if ocean use all this things like intrigues ,rivals ,competition,death (bad endings)....,gangs,jeliousy,drama..
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NTR by itself doesn't do anything you said. It's just a type of content. You can have jealousy, drama, gangs, and whatever else you want to conjure without NTR and the tory will flow all the same.
Using Game of Thrones as an example is poor since GoT doesn't really have any unless you count Shay and Tyrion was better off.
Sex VN games have "this problem" you speak of because the vast majority of developers aren't good writers. It's writing that makes games stand out. They either lack the chops for it or they aren't interested in being some kind of porn Shakespeare because they just want you to support them financially while you occasionally bust a nut.
No amount of bad endings will make WiaB great. No amount of William getting cucked, no amount of cum Miru chugs, none of it will make the game last. Only the writing will. Can Ocean tell a good enough story to keep money flowing and the project running until it's completed over the next 10-30 years? Time will tell. (though probably not without SG
)This post makes me sound like I'm anti-NTR. I'm not. I'm pretty indifferent to it all things considered. I just don't accept the idea that NTR is going to somehow make WiaB better. It's optional content for the niche.
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I dont say that adding ntr into a VN or WIAB makes the game instantly better ( see other bad ntr games with terrible plots....)NTR by itself doesn't do anything you said. It's just a type of content. You can have jealousy, drama, gangs, and whatever else you want to conjure without NTR and the tory will flow all the same.
Using Game of Thrones as an example is poor since GoT doesn't really have any unless you count Shay and Tyrion was better off.
Sex VN games have "this problem" you speak of because the vast majority of developers aren't good writers. It's writing that makes games stand out. They either lack the chops for it or they aren't interested in being some kind of porn Shakespeare because they just want you to support them financially while you occasionally bust a nut.
No amount of bad endings will make WiaB great. No amount of William getting cucked, no amount of cum Miru chugs, none of it will make the game last. Only the writing will. Can Ocean tell a good enough story to keep money flowing and the project running until it's completed over the next 10-30 years? Time will tell. (though probably not without SG
This post makes me sound like I'm anti-NTR. I'm not. I'm pretty indifferent to it all things considered. I just don't accept the idea that NTR is going to somehow make WiaB better. It's optional content for the niche.
Its like saying adding gore or protagonist death to your tv show/game makes it game of thrones/red dead 2 like
Buts its the options(story) that this fetures add combined that 100% make a better overall narrative
The truth is that most VN are very limited in narrative options because they make games for certain audiance ....(full female college troop)
Lets imaging george rr martin writes a movie and you would limit the ammount of options that he has main cheracters cant die , no cheating because values , no gore because to shocking ,no red wedding..... and so on you get the picture this would absolutly make show worse ...
Just look at the biggest VN games that shall not be named and see it yourself the whole world is sterile
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What makes a game monotonous is the lack of an interesting plot, poorly written cardboard characters, poorly written dialogue, lack of suspense, the author's inability to touch the player's emotions, and not the presence or absence of certain fetishes. I skip 95% of the content in 95% of NTR games because they are unbearably dumb. This shit is very niche, and in my opinion works in extremely limited range of plots. However, as does the harem. If this game is interesting, it's certainly not because it has NTR, which, by the way, is optional.
You talk a lot about drama, intrigue, competition, but for some reason all this in your opinion only appears with the addition of NTR to each game. Who are you trying to fool?
The good news is that Ocean has reiterated several times that there will be no NTR in SG.
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why the fock is a ntr discussion up here
the quarterly popup of ntr fanboys?
the quarterly popup of ntr fanboys?
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1: DigiWhich one drops first, Ocean, digi, or DPC?
2: DPC ... Because why not.
3: Ocean ... just because he is too much Butthurt about every small mistake.
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Right now, SG isn't monotomous because there's no NTR, it's monotonous because there's no sex AT ALL
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MC getting girls easy - bad, boring, monotonousWhat makes a game monotonous is the lack of an interesting plot, poorly written cardboard characters, poorly written dialogue, lack of suspense, the author's inability to touch the player's emotions, and not the presence or absence of certain fetishes. I skip 95% of the content in 95% of NTR games because they are unbearably dumb. This shit is very niche, and in my opinion works in extremely limited range of plots. However, as does the harem. If this game is interesting, it's certainly not because it has NTR, which, by the way, is optional.
You talk a lot about drama, intrigue, competition, but for some reason all this in your opinion only appears with the addition of NTR to each game. Who are you trying to fool?
The good news is that Ocean has reiterated several times that there will be no NTR in SG.
Token BBC, ugly basterds, fat fucks, homeless men and random douchebags getting girls even easier than a harem MC - Realistic, immersive, mature
I facepalm so hard when I see their argument, its like they have no self awareness. If they were really the mature adults they claim, they will just say 'I like this kink, what are you gonna do about it?', instead we always have to go through mental gymnastics and justifications
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Right now SG isn't monotonous because there's no NTR or sex, it's monotonous because there's no update.
The same applies to WiAB.
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mmmm, nop, no way... WIAB is all but monotonous right now. From the already legendary and corrected Log to now it is pure vertigo!Right now SG isn't monotonous because there's no NTR or sex, it's monotonous because there's no update.
The same applies to WiAB.
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how often does he posts logs?mmmm, nop, no way... WIAB is all but monotonous right now. From the already legendary and corrected Log to now it is pure vertigo!
Chad like, once a week, or the gae way like Chasing Sunsets at 1 month + ?
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He used to intercalate logs, so there was one every week. But he realized that he was repeating a lot of the info and moved both logs to the same day. When it was every week there was more to talk about, but now the logs feel more "robust".so, in the closet. got it
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Ok i give you homework go on filter and sort after ratingWhat makes a game monotonous is the lack of an interesting plot, poorly written cardboard characters, poorly written dialogue, lack of suspense, the author's inability to touch the player's emotions, and not the presence or absence of certain fetishes. I skip 95% of the content in 95% of NTR games because they are unbearably dumb. This shit is very niche, and in my opinion works in extremely limited range of plots. However, as does the harem. If this game is interesting, it's certainly not because it has NTR, which, by the way, is optional.
You talk a lot about drama, intrigue, competition, but for some reason all this in your opinion only appears with the addition of NTR to each game. Who are you trying to fool?
The good news is that Ocean has reiterated several times that there will be no NTR in SG.
And take all this 5 star games
How many of them have a actually good plot .... exactly almost NONE and why is it this way....... its the lack of losing ,intrigues , competition,drama ,possibilities to lose/win ..... and so on
Your rivals are pointless if they suck ....winning dosent matter if you cant lose ... intiuges are boring if you already know you can choose answer blindfolded and win...you have zero feel of actually treath because the world is designed for the chads ( a save space world for waifu pillow bros)
Most games are like big booty bitches,college , spin bottle thats it,burning houses
... and I cant really blame the devs because it sells most but its most steril and boring world design ...its basicly ubisoft /EA of VN games we need qualitie stuff not this fast food VN stuff over and over again ..
They definitly have good renders but thats it so I hope WIAB goes into a more qualitie direction
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