VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Dr.TSoni]

Don't do this to me Doc, I just had my brain rocked with silly notions of adoptions and raising orphan kids like they were puppies of the mother you just ran over... I maybe in a few hours or tomorrow we'll tackle that one

But that way we would risk missing out on some Oceanism

You should both know by now....

We know you like to remind us XD

Leia is the one running everything. All the security is hers. All the establishment are hers. The enforcers seem to answer to her.

Honestly, this is why a soft rework is needed, the Zanes should be more unscrupulous like Leia.

 

[dojito]

Just imagine that Ocean stick to 6-month schedule. A man can dream.

Well, considering that he can produce 75 renders a day, and updates should be around 2-2.5k renders, he should really make these in 1 month, if he doesn't start making excuses we should be having updates in both games every 3-4 months consecutively

 

[X2JZcf]

What exactly is Jabba running Bob? She is a mute figurehead. She's probably the only person we haven't seen run anything at all.

Scarlett is plotting with Leia while organizing stuff at the house and trying to keep the families together.

Dylan is running around doing the talking for Helen and went missing for half the update doing stuff behind the scenes.

Leia is the one running everything. All the security is hers. All the establishment are hers. The enforcers seem to answer to her. All the capital is under her control or else Katie could have gotten a loan from Helen or Dylan, no?

What in God's name is the mute whale doing besides standing around the house, reading, looking retrospectively, sunbathing or playing with oversized hand canons?

Eating and drinking Nick's

 

[BobTheDuck]

I’ve only played the reworked Steam version...
Which part exactly has changed???

Previous version (reworked Ch1-3) had family relationships nudge nudge wink wink implied, and people loved patching that version, in hope of lewd scenes with patched relationships. Now patches can't be used without changing the story, and people making those kind of patches are trying to decide whether to bother or not. The older version also had a patch.

Honestly? Don't worry about it. You have the enviable position of having played the game without preconceptions.

What exactly is Jabba running Bob? She is a mute figurehead. She's probably the only person we haven't seen run anything at all.

Scarlett is plotting with Leia while organizing stuff at the house and trying to keep the families together.

Dylan is running around doing the talking for Helen and went missing for half the update doing stuff behind the scenes.

Leia is the one running everything. All the security is hers. All the establishment are hers. The enforcers seem to answer to her.

What in God's name is the mute whale doing besides standing around the house, reading, looking retrospectively, sunbathing or playing with oversized hand canons?

She wasn't mute the whole time Willi was gone, only what the last three weeks? So years of running the Zane family, even if running it meant just going to dinner and meeting with the important families. Someone like Scarlet might think she could really raise the profile of the family if she was in Helen's position and is frustrated that Joe and Leia are doing all the expansion. Maybe? This isn't a plot hole though, it's just not stated and we're theorising. We see her and Dylan go to do family business at the Relucia diner. Despite being mute, she's the one making sure Willi needs to go to see Guiseppe. So somehow, she's still keeping it going in the last three weeks. My perception though, she's quite happy for the family 'business' to take a back seat and doesn't feel the need to run guns or distribute drugs.

 

[jadepaladin]

What are you even on about?

Where in the hell do you live that buying a car (that needs insurance to be legal to drive) doesn't require ID?
That having a bank account doesn't require ID?
That asking for a loan doesn't require ID?
That buying property doesn't require ID?
That setting up a business doesn't require ID?
That applying to any job doesn't require ID and a full background check?
That applying to kindergarten, high school or college doesn't require ID?

Police state? Wtf?!?! The entire semi developped world is a police state now?

People fall between the cracks???!?!? In a homicide case where a family is killed but their kids don't seem to be amongst the deceased?

Jesus Christ Bob you're deflecting and grasping at straws to make sense of something that makes no sense.

EDIT: Oh fuck...my bad Bob! Please disregard everything I said. I should know better. I forgot "Mafia reasons". It all makes sense now.

I was catching up on the thread with morning coffee and was ready to hit reply and remind you about mafia reasons. Seems like you took care of it though.

Stolen children? Mafia.
Fake IDs that hold up even to FBI scrutiny? Mafia.
Mav getting me to read a bs VN about androids? Mafia.

 

[John972]

What in God's name is the mute whale doing besides standing around the house, reading, looking retrospectively, sunbathing or playing with oversized hand canons?

She's constantly flashing her goodies to the MC, so there's that. I knew she had to be in the AVN for some reason...

 

[Acsuka]

What in God's name is the mute whale doing besides standing around the house, reading, looking retrospectively, sunbathing or playing with oversized hand canons?

Helen takes advantage of the free breast massages, which William dutifully performs, as one cannot say no to the mistress of the "mafia".

 

[RNasc4444]

And I hit the RL again
God fucking damnit just kill me at this point!!!

I was catching up on the thread with morning coffee and was ready to hit reply and remind you about mafia reasons. Seems like you took care of it though.

Stolen children? Mafia.
Fake IDs that hold up even to FBI scrutiny? Mafia.
Mav getting me to read a bs VN about androids? Mafia.

Yeah was totally my bad. Morning brain and all. Lack of coffee

She's constantly flashing her goodies to the MC, so there's that. I knew she had to be in the AVN for some reason...

I just wish I didn't have to see them

 

[John972]

But that way we would risk missing out on some Oceanism


We know you like to remind us XD


Honestly, this is why a soft rework is needed, the Zanes should be more unscrupulous like Leia.

That's kinda the head-scratching thing.

The Aranos historically ran all the criminal enterprises, even in the "reworked" Chs 1 -3, while the Zanes seemed to be in the background doing fuck all... until Leia stepped in. I am half expecting some unscrupulous Zane criminal enterprises - miraculously hidden from their children growing up - to make an appearance in future updates. If it happens, then my money is on the second Zane family property being a center of their illicit activity.

 

[John972]

I just wish I didn't have to see them

Congratulations for being absolutely the first person in AVN history to demand a CENSOR patch, rather than an UNCENSORED patch /s

 

[sorco2003]

Shit I'm out of reactions



So she's angry because she got caught, it fits well with the new theme

In the case of the weapons it seems to me that it is beyond being caught, seeing the reactions of Emilio and Riri with Leia's plan, perhaps the weapons are a much greater and complicated evil (making her own plans may fall for others).

 

[hoshin0119]

Previous version (reworked Ch1-3) had family relationships nudge nudge wink wink implied, and people loved patching that version, in hope of lewd scenes with patched relationships. Now patches can't be used without changing the story, and people making those kind of patches are trying to decide whether to bother or not. The older version also had a patch.

Honestly? Don't worry about it. You have the enviable position of having played the game without preconceptions.

Ah… no wonder the game felt so confusing at first — there was no background explanation or relationship context at all. It wasn’t until I got to Chapter 2 that I started thinking, “Oh, maybe they’re family.” So is the only difference between the pre-rework and post-rework versions whether or not their familial relationship is explicitly stated? I was kind of hoping for some incest between Leia and Katie… but considering the tone of the game, I guess that’s probably not going to happen.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I am half expecting some unscrupulous Zane criminal enterprises - miraculously hidden from their children growing up - to make an appearance in future updates.

But why hide it? Everyone, including Katie, who doesn't seem to want to know anything about this mafia bullshit, knows the Zanes are part of the syndicate. So, why hide their operations?

seeing the reactions of Emilio and Riri with Leia's plan,

It seemed to me that Emilio and Riri were worried because Leia is selling weapons without the families knowing and approving.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Ah… no wonder the game felt so confusing at first — there was no background explanation or relationship context at all. It wasn’t until I got to Chapter 2 that I started thinking, “Oh, maybe they’re family.” So is the only difference between the pre-rework and post-rework versions whether or not their familial relationship is explicitly stated? I was kind of hoping for some incest between Leia and Katie… but considering the tone of the game, I guess that’s probably not going to happen.

The devlog you quoted shows it's not going to have that kind of content. THe best you can hope for is a fan patch, but given we don't know the plot, any patch that gets made might need a new beginning every single release as more of the games structure gets revealed.

Most of the circular arguments are people unhappy with letting go of the idea of incest being in the game, but it's not going to go there.

 

[sorco2003]

But why hide it? Everyone, including Katie, who doesn't seem to want to know anything about this mafia bullshit, knows the Zanes are part of the syndicate. So, why hide their operations?


It seemed to me that Emilio and Riri were worried because Leia is selling weapons without the families knowing and approving.

Yes, I thought so too, and in my train of thought I concluded that in reality it's all just “Leia must not do it”... but since it adds another point to Scar's anger, I'm going to stick with my first thought until they say something else in the next chapter.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Riri seems to be a character to watch out for. Her setting up the girl that showed William around and said Leia authorized it even though she didn't. Feels she has her own game.

 

[Capt_Kirk]

Y'all have been hopelessly infected by porn brain. Celebrating these changes is wild when they actively make the story more retarded than ever before.

Has a single one of you considered, for a single second, the implications of taking in stolen children? Do you not realize that every single human being in a semi civilized country has an ID that is needed for basically anything? Do you not realize that from the moment their families were killed and the kids bodies weren't recovered they became missing persons? Do you not realize how flimsy a fake ID is? One background check from any law enforcement will set off red flags. To think these stolen children could be operating on false identities their whole lives without raising any red flags is insane. Especially when the FBI is already shown to be onto them.

Now let's consider they are using their real identities (which they seem to be) how in the ever loving fuck are they not getting immediately taken in by the state? How are they allowed to grow up with the family involved in the murder of their relatives? This monumental retardation has already infected WiAB and you want to do the same with Nami and the MC in SG? Contain the infection. Let the rot fester in only one game.

Y'all talk about stealing children like it's stealing a fucking pen from the supermarket.

RNasc4444 just remember ..........everything it's possible because

of course that post about the positive aspects of the rewrites was me being sarcastic !

 

[alanrock]

I heard that Tarantino partly writes WiAB. The second season is going to have a lot of footjobs.

 

[BCGuy]

Yes. The patch is for the version that ended with chapter 3.

The update with chapter 4 includes rewrites making an i patch harder to implement.

Thanks. Hoping someone will crack the code on how to produce a new patch.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I'm going to stick with my first thought until they say something else in the next chapter.

This is probably the mindset we should adopt for the next 2-3 chapters XD