VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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So I'm a tad confused about all the "new" content with this update? I reloaded my last save, which was at that one scene in the bathroom stall with your GF while everyone else was waiting at the dinner table. And it ended fairly shortly after that. Didn't feel like anything really new was included. Do I need to restart to see the new content because it's actually earlier in the storyline or something?
 

Dr.TSoni

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So I'm a tad confused about all the "new" content with this update? I reloaded my last save, which was at that one scene in the bathroom stall with your GF while everyone else was waiting at the dinner table. And it ended fairly shortly after that. Didn't feel like anything really new was included. Do I need to restart to see the new content because it's actually earlier in the storyline or something?
Have you installed mods?
 

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So I'm a tad confused about all the "new" content with this update? I reloaded my last save, which was at that one scene in the bathroom stall with your GF while everyone else was waiting at the dinner table. And it ended fairly shortly after that. Didn't feel like anything really new was included. Do I need to restart to see the new content because it's actually earlier in the storyline or something?
If you had it patched or modded then it won't jump to the new content.
You'd need a fresh save since a lot of the relationships and dialogue have changed to remove the incest, and chapter 4 twists it further so it's hard to just swap mom for landlady and have it work. Whoever makes a patch is going to have to rewrite sections of the story and it will probably get more complicated if we get another update.
 

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So.. apart from the incest rewrites and all the inconsistencies... :HideThePain:
Is it just me or the sex scene/s are just... boring...? Just three clicks and its gone?
No talk? banter? You know, something to make it erotic? It feels like cero love put into it, just... (nice) animation + animation and done. :poop:
 
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Have you installed mods?
Yes, the eye-patch.

If you had it patched or modded then it won't jump to the new content.
You'd need a fresh save since a lot of the relationships and dialogue have changed to remove the incest, and chapter 4 twists it further so it's hard to just swap mom for landlady and have it work. Whoever makes a patch is going to have to rewrite sections of the story and it will probably get more complicated if we get another update.
le sigh, I was afraid of that.
 

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Still can't believe we got La Cosa Nostra at home as a plotline in 2025. Jesus H Christ when was the last time mafia themes were popular? The 90's?!?!?!
 
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Dr.TSoni

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Still can't believe we got La Cosa Nostra at home as a plotline in 2025. Jesus H Christ when was the last time mafia themes were popular? The 90's?!?!?!
In 2010 it was quite popular here.... Christ how bad it sounds when say it like that
 
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Badboll

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Why do I feel like every time I play this game, there is less content and just more text.
There isn't a single scene in this game that is interesting. With how slow this game updates It's going to be 2030 before we get a 4th scene with Miru.
This game was better pre-remake. At least it had some scenes then. Now it's just a mafia intrigue game where everyone hates the MC for no reason.
It's barely even a porn game anymore. And Liea still needs boob surgery, she's the only character in the game that looks like she went to a plastic surgeon and said, 50 bucks is all I have make my tits bigger.
Oh and we can remove the NTR tag from this game too. There isn't any.
There is also way too many girls in this game. Too many love interest.
 
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MrRiouso

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And rewrite the script of the entire 4th episode! YES! It remains to find this hero, yes, let's just go to a psychologist and accept reality, that's what they usually say.
what do you mean, rewrite the entire episode 4? just change or add the dialogue where necessary
 

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Well, from a writer´s standpoint this is an unmitigated disaster! I am just a hobby writer, but if I delivered such a load of rubbish bin content, my readers would flay me alive - and rightly so! The characterisations have gone of the rail, events not fitting any longer, stupidity all around.
I still cannot get over the fact that Ocean tries to sell us Willi cares about the "family" enough to return. Helen is ar least partly (currently unclear if she ordered it directly) responsible for the death of William´s parents, he knows about and later on Helen abandoned him in prison and even glated about it. And now Ocean wants us to believe he returns to Wollust because Helen became mute?o_O(n)

Ocean is obviously telling us: I made a rewrite which is an offer the fans cannot refuse! (Godfather theme plays in the background)

The correct answer to this is easy.
Diana Burnwood: Welcome to Wollust, 47! I hope the flight was enjoyable. Your targets this time are...
This video is extremly fitting and a legend. Watch it.
Amen my bro

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kazeiheikaya

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Sometimes I wish f95 uploaders just left in the last update date just so I could keep track of games and how long their update cycles tend to be
like:

Thread Updated: 2025-07-04
Release Date: 2025-07-04
Update Prior: <insert old date left behind>

That being said, anyone remember when the last update prior to this one was? Think it was january/feb right? Maybe even longer, too many things blend in my head. If anyone knows for sure tho, would appreciate ya <3
 
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jadepaladin

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what do you mean, rewrite the entire episode 4? just change or add the dialogue where necessary
Did you play chapter 4? You need a rewrite to make incest work now.

Will had parents, killed.
Leia had different parents, killed.
Both were taken in by the Zanes as form of war tribute but never legally adopted (also implied that Helen was involved in their deaths?)
Thus, Will, Leia, and Katie no longer share any sort of familial link other than "lived under same roof."
Will still ran off like a bitch after getting involved with Leia, which is now due some unspoken mafia rule being broken instead of just plain "Whoops I like my sister and don't want mom to find out."


It's not good, it is messy. Definitely incoherent imo and gives Ocean way too much creative freedom to just make shit up as he goes in the future. That said, it's what we have currently. You want incest, you better get to working on some fan fiction.
 
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Well, from a writer´s standpoint this is an unmitigated disaster! I am just a hobby writer, but if I delivered such a load of rubbish bin content, my readers would flay me alive - and rightly so! The characterisations have gone of the rail, events not fitting any longer, stupidity all around.
I still cannot get over the fact that Ocean tries to sell us Willi cares about the "family" enough to return. Helen is ar least partly (currently unclear if she ordered it directly) responsible for the death of William´s parents, he knows about and later on Helen abandoned him in prison and even glated about it. And now Ocean wants us to believe he returns to Wollust because Helen became mute?o_O(n)

Ocean is obviously telling us: I made a rewrite which is an offer the fans cannot refuse! (Godfather theme plays in the background)

The correct answer to this is easy.
Diana Burnwood: Welcome to Wollust, 47! I hope the flight was enjoyable. Your targets this time are...
This video is extremly fitting and a legend. Watch it.
1. William was already going to return after a few months, but was stopped due to circumstances he found himself in (in the new update), he got a reason to return when Leia called.
2. We don't know who was behind his parents demise, may be the "judges" and the Zanes might have been out of loop to this (only time will tell).
3. Also we don't know what they talked on the phone call William was given while in jail. He might not have even mentioned where he is. Even if he did Helen may have told him not to return to protect him, as William has to face the "judges" now (only time will tell).
4. Yes he could have done a better job with the mafia thing.
We don't know what dev is planned for all these storylines, give it time, he may surprise us or disappoint. Critize when they are bad, not when unfinished.
 

Dr.TSoni

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3. Also we don't know what they talked on the phone call William was given while in jail. He might not have even mentioned where he is. Even if he did Helen may have told him not to return to protect him, as William has to face the "judges" now (only time will tell).
The feds specify that Helen went to meet him while he was serving his sentence
 

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Helen is ar least partly (currently unclear if she ordered it directly) responsible for the death of William´s parents
Where did you get that from? I thought it was clear the bad blood was between the Guiseppes and the Grimaldis/Pedersolis. Scarlet mentions the fact that it was because of a few good people that William and Leia weren't drowned. I don't recall anywhere where it was said that the Zanes were responsible. Because if they did, you're right, it wouldn't make any sense.
 
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Where did you get that from? I thought it was clear the bad blood was between the Guiseppes and the Grimaldis/Pedersolis. Scarlet mentions the fact that it was because of a few good people that William and Leia weren't drowned. I don't recall anywhere where it was said that the Zanes were responsible. Because if they did, you're right, it wouldn't make any sense.
Yes, it was never said in the game. People just create reasons to hate.
 
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