VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Dr.TSoni]

there are some gaps and nonsense in the story

There is some story in the gaps and nonsense

Ocean has drastically altered the dynamics between the Zanes, Leia and William are subordinates of the Zane family:
They can't Bully Katie, that concept would have been burned into their souls after the first incident.
Leia shouldn't have that arrogant behavior in her Boss's house at all.
Willy isn't going home to the people who raised him but to a life of organized crime.
William is a deserter they should want him dead not exiled, and it's already strange that they didn't take care of him when he was in prison.

Every family interaction is out of place in the new story because they are not family


I'm starting to feel like Ross "We Were On A Break!"

 

[Call of Booty]

The game died for me when blood relations were removed. Simple as that.

 

[mommysboiii]

Mummysboi did you hit your head or something? I would think you would be overjoyed at the prospect of them moving forward with the porn studio!

No fun without a good old fight and ressistance

I need to protect my love interest we dont want that andything bad happens to her

 

[Crowangel]

currently replaying the rework and IF... IF for funding reasons WiAB ends without a conclusion it is (weakly) possible to connect the tissue from its current edition with a point in the pre rework.. lot of missing story threads but where william leave off in the rework does kinda serve as a 'ending' especially given the SG cougar book club scene with Katie being asked about 'how william is doing'... you could make this that she is asking because he is still behind bars... anyway like i said its a very weak closure but for those who think this might not get a finish its a means to.. create an end so to speak

 

[im_here_4_content]

Guys, I just downloaded: Where_it_all_Began-Season_1-market

But the game ends whenyou come to Leia's place by her call, and thats it. I remember same thing 2 years ago.

Where can be downloadedfull new version?

 

[Anony9876]

i apologize if someone already asked, but did Ocean take off the mild Ntr scene where the guy touch miru boob in the bathroom of a bar/disco? And also was it added anything new on the Ntr parh (No need to spoiler me, it's fine a yes o no answer)? Thanks

 

[alanrock]

Guys, I just downloaded: Where_it_all_Began-Season_1-market

But the game ends whenyou come to Leia's place by her call, and thats it. I remember same thing 2 years ago.

Where can be downloadedfull new version?

What are the odds you have a problem with old mods?

 

[mommysboiii]

i apologize if someone already asked, but did Ocean take off the mild Ntr scene where the guy touch miru boob in the bathroom of a bar/disco? And also was it added anything new on the Ntr parh (No need to spoiler me, it's fine a yes o no answer)? Thanks

No still in game .. and if you mean new ntr sex or fast ntr plot no

 

[mirc]

WiAB and SG are really well done games, but... Reading all the comments on both games it looks like this developer is planning his retirement security on those games.
Not that I'm blaming him on doing so (it's something anyone will do) seeing that he has good monthly earnings from both games and players that support him are content with his intentions, it will take at least 10 years to see some near endings (maybe I'm wrong) and that is somehow too risky for me to be involved in this games development - it's just not for me, I just don't have time to wait that long for any game...
It's a shame, seeing that good games are rare this days (at least for adult gaming) and ordinary games developed by big studios just do not catch my curiosity any more... well, it is what it is, hope that younger generations will see WiAB and SG done in their life time - it's time for me to skip on those two games and look somewhere else.
Good luck.

 

[RNasc4444]

Anyone got fucked other than miru ?

Absolutely!

- People who felt incest was a core part of WiAB got fucked
- People who liked the previous direction of the story got fucked
- People who don't appreciate Mafia themes got fucked
- People who enjoy a coherent narrative got fucked
- People who like NTR got fucked
- People who like sex scenes got fucked
- People who enjoyed the previous connection and dynamics between the Zane family members got fucked

Plenty of people got fucked.

If you mean in game....then no
You get one sexy time scene with Miru and that's it.

 

[Badboy8151]

Helen know William was in prison and she even goes to see him , why she didn't tell anyone what do you guys think?

 

[Anony9876]

No still in game .. and if you mean new ntr sex or fast ntr plot no

i see cause i had a save for when i had to make the decision if to let her get touched and it gave me an error,but i'll try to start again and i'll see... i see so zero content for the Ntr path in this update?

 

[danov17]

help me..



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[xCalon]

Now, after a 25 hours WiaB playthrough I can say that I am sincerely grateful to Ocean for rewriting the story. It's quite obvious to me that this wasn't the original story before, but - for certain unfortunate reasons - he was somewhat forced to rewrite it, thereby making both Where it all Began and Summer's Gone as bullet/future-proof as possible.

Is it flawless? Of course not!
Are there plot holes and logical errors? Oh, hell yes!
Does this bother me? Not nearly as much as what I've seen in the topic over the past two days.
Does it bother me that family relationships have changed and the incest have been dropped? Not in the least.

I have no intention of stating that I am right, I have simply expressed my own opinion. However, I would be interested in what those, who are now so upset about the way the story continued in Ch4 think, what should have happened in the prequel for the things we have seen so far in Summer's Gone to happen. Just with this one new chapter, so many what ifs, maybes and wishful thinkings went into the trash, that it's visible from space. And I don't think that's a problem.

I'll write again what I wrote over a year ago. It's clearly not flawless, there's room for improvement, there's room for fair criticism, but I spent 8 euros in the past on much more unnecessary things than WiaB.

 

[Joan6969]

Absolutely!

- People who felt incest was a core part of WiAB got fucked
- People who liked the previous direction of the story got fucked
- People who don't appreciate Mafia themes got fucked
- People who enjoy a coherent narrative got fucked
- People who like NTR got fucked
- People who like sex scenes got fucked
- People who enjoyed the previous connection and dynamics between the Zane family members got fucked

Plenty of people got fucked.

If you mean in game....then no
You get one sexy time scene with Miru and that's it.

That's a whole lotta Fucking right there.....a ton more then the actually game!
For whatever reason it seems Ocean is not a big fan when it comes to sex in a AVN and for what little sex there is..... kinda lame!

 

[Gumshoe08]

That's a whole lotta Fucking right there.....a ton more then the actually game!
For whatever reason it seems Ocean is not a big fan when it comes to sex in a AVN and for what little sex there is..... kinda lame!

Ocean is basically the Zack Snyder of AVNs. All style no substance. Literally remove the good renders and we get a below mediocre writing and ambitious yet try hard plot.

 

[El_Magnifico]

- People who don't appreciate Mafia themes got fucked
- People who enjoy a coherent narrative got fucked
- People who like NTR got fucked
- People who like sex scenes got fucked

With such criterias, I've been more savagely fucked than a pornstar in a blacked gang bang.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Man...what can i say.....after playing this Update...Feeling disappointed might be an massive understatement. This Game strong suit are definitive the Characters. I mean...there isn t any women who i wouldn t wanna bang...All of the Girls are simply stunning and breathtaking and Oceans Render Quality is out of this World....BUT....after 7 (SEVEN!!!!) fucking years of development....i expect a fully fleshed out Game with Tons of Dialogue and TONS (yeah right..TONS) of "sexy Time"! This whole Game feels like a 1930`s Mobster Movie..parked in the Present....and thats it. They are talking and talking and talking....and then at some point...a little teasing and you are thinking to yourself, yeah man thats it..he s finally getting some prime pussy...but oh well oh well...a little groping here and there...and...thats it. Nothing happens. EVER! What is wrong with the MC?? He could drown in pussy and all he did was to cop a feel here and there?? Please Ocean...tell us...is the MC secretly gay?? I don t get it. What is this Game up to??? Cut out the few very boring Sex Scene with Miru and you have a average Mobsters Movie...ready to stream it on Netflix. Mirus fucking aside...i have seen Sitcoms with more naked Skin in it than this one has. I am going to retire from work in about thirty-something years....maybe...just maybe...there will be a Sex Scene with another Girl in it..(and i am NOT talking about Miru). I have no idea what Ocean’s goal is with this game, but if he doesn’t start delivering (like REALLY soon), this game is dead. Just my opinion. Talking to all these girls is fine and all… building a relationship is also fine and all… but at SOME point, I’d like a little reward, you know? Throw me a bone here!

In conclusion this Game needs ASAP :

1. MUCH less talking
2. MUCH less teasing (unless it leads to something more right away)
3. MORE SEX (Yes...i mean it this way...its a porn Game fgs)

Ehrlich Ocean....so langsam möchte ich die Titten und Ärsche mal in Action sehen...! Mach mal was...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Ocean is basically the Zack Snyder of AVNs. All style no substance. Literally remove the good renders and we get a below mediocre writing and ambitious yet try hard plot.

After watching Rebel Moon.. they both need a No Man

 

[John972]

Now, after playing through WiaB for 25 hours, I can say that I am sincerely grateful to Ocean for rewriting the story. It's quite obvious to me that this wasn't the original story before, but - for certain unfortunate reasons - he was somewhat forced to rewrite it, thereby making both Where it all Began and Summer's Gone as bullet/future-proof as possible.

Is it flawless? Of course not!
Are there plot holes and logical errors? Oh, hell yes!
Does this bother me? Not nearly as much as what I've seen in the topic over the past two days.
Does it bother me that family relationships have changed and the incest have been dropped? Not in the least.

I have no intention of stating that I am right, I have simply expressed my own opinion. However, I would be interested in what those, who are now so upset about the way the story continued in Ch4 think, what should have happened in the prequel for the things we have seen so far in Summer's Gone to happen. Just with this one new chapter, so many what ifs, maybes and wishful thinkings went into the trash, that it's visible from space. And I don't think that's a problem.

I'll write again what I wrote over a year ago. It's clearly not flawless, there's room for improvement, there's room for fair criticism, but I spent 8 euros in the past on much more unnecessary things than WiaB.

While I admit that I haven't trawled every post from the last few days, I have not seen anyone express a reasoned argument about how Ocean could've handled the i-change any better.

I think WIAB always meant to have the criminal underworld element (at least since reworked WIAB Ch 1), so I don't find the mafia inclusion too unexpected. I don't really care either way. We'll see how it goes.

As to plot holes or things that don't exactly mirror real life... this is the OceanVerse, for goodness sake! "Old timers" should be well used to it by now. Heck, WIAB/SG have anthropomorphic snakes, spiders, rats, and raccoons, outrageously ostentatious female apparel (leading to many unabashed tit-slips), and gravity defying anime hairstyles. It's not planet earth, let alone anything resembling real life. In one way, thank goodness for that! If WIAB mirrored real life, the Zanes might've been wacked by now, so game over.

Ironically, there is one angle with the changes I am interested in because they may hint at one of the underlying mysteries in SG...

WIAB - Presumably, the "three judges" crime families (i.e. including the Giuseppes and Morellis) wacked the heads of the the Grimaldi and Pedersoli crime families, leaving William and Leia as orphans brought up by the Zanes. I expect the Zane/Arano syndicate to wack the heads of the Giuseppe, Morelli et al crime families by the conclusion of WIAB.

SG - There is no sign of the Giuseppes and Morellis so far in SG. It seems that ZPR dominate. Are the two surviving young children of the original "three judges" families living with Nojiko in SG?

Kinda cliché, I know, but also kinda poetic.