VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Dr.TSoni]

As to plot holes or things that don't exactly mirror real life... this is the OceanVerse, for goodness sake! "Old timers" should be well used to it by now. Heck, WIAB/SG have anthropomorphic snakes, spiders, rats, and raccoons, outrageously ostentatious female apparel (leading to many unabashed tit-slips), and gravity defying anime hairstyles.

No, for the simple fact that Ocean uses the term "mafia" to do the heavy lifting, if in his universe it works differently or he wants to insert some anime bullshit it's up to him to specify it in the dialogues or with a glossary

im glad we all agree on that dogshite.
wouldnt watch nr. 2 if i got paid to do it. i just dont wanna know lmao.

I saw all 4 of them XD

 

[LHDLLB]

There is some story in the gaps and nonsense

Ocean has drastically altered the dynamics between the Zanes, Leia and William are subordinates of the Zane family:
They can't Bully Katie, that concept would have been burned into their souls after the first incident.
Leia shouldn't have that arrogant behavior in her Boss's house at all.
Willy isn't going home to the people who raised him but to a life of organized crime.
William is a deserter they should want him dead not exiled, and it's already strange that they didn't take care of him when he was in prison.

Every family interaction is out of place in the new story because they are not family


I'm starting to feel like Ross "We Were On A Break!"

That is the only problem for me, the first 3 chapthers is filled with shame, longing, resentment in all those characters, not only William, and it worked great. Chapther 4 completely pivot the story. Is not that it can't work, is that it wasn't seted up at all in the early chapthers. Scenes like William seeing Helen again where thought out when she was his mother, same with Dylan, it all feels like the prodigic son coming home and is great. And this update goes against all that.

Helen and Dylan can have a love relationship and feel like he is their son, is hard no to when you raise a child, but a certain coldness and practicality should also be there because they weren’t just a family. And I would drop the marrige plot line, feels really forced to me, just make that the kids thought they were doing something wrong but nobody gave a fuck and let Katie and Leia be just LIs, as is Helen now, William dosen't have second thoughts about fucking her.

 

[Mortarion]

I'm confused that ocean consider the gloryhole scene with leia ntr.

If this kind of stuff is not labeled properly, even more crybabys than now would crawl out of their holes with torches and forks and complain because ...
... reasons.

Absolutely!

- People who felt incest was a core part of WiAB got fucked
- People who liked the previous direction of the story got fucked
- People who don't appreciate Mafia themes got fucked
- People who enjoy a coherent narrative got fucked
- People who like NTR got fucked
- People who like sex scenes got fucked
- People who enjoyed the previous connection and dynamics between the Zane family members got fucked

Plenty of people got fucked.

If you mean in game....then no
You get one sexy time scene with Miru and that's it.

- Well, that's the problem if some people felt that xyz is a core part of a game. After WIAB patreon got nuked it was clear that getting rid of this stuff is a must.
- What was the previous direction of the game? The old game was intended as a porn game, after the rework the game was never considered as such and got more heavy on the story side.
- Even old WIAB was a crime story, and post rework it was slightly hinted in CH1 - after Ch2 was no room left for any doubts in this direction.
- Not many games in the genre distributed in this board have this kind of narrative, it could be done better but I have seen much worse here.
- No one gives a fuck about NTR, it's a minor fraction of a minor fraction. In all game threads here that contain this stuff it's always the same handful of users that complain about this kind of stuff. Either the lack off or how it's done.
- That's a point. The lewd stuff sucks, to be honest, the locker room scene between Bella and Nika in SG was - for me - way more arousing than the h-stuff from WIAB.
- Jumping back to the IC staff are now?

help me..



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ScriptError: could not find label 'start'.

Remove outdated bullshit patch, and if you try to load a save from the previous version of the game created with the bullshit patch - start a new playthrough without bullshit patch.
Bullshit patch is done for...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

THERE ARE FUCKING 4 OF THEM ALREADY?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
oh my gewd lawd.

They are the same 2 but longer and uncensored XD

 

[uym]

Made me think of Sancho actually because I don't see how I'm gonna get through this without some whisky

Raise a glass! May he code in peace wherever he is

+1 to that.

Not sure what has been posted since but I tried his removal mod and it did not work so a start from the beginning coming up (think this will be my third tennis ball v spider as I did a previous restart).

 

[mommysboiii]

i see cause i had a save for when i had to make the decision if to let her get touched and it gave me an error,but i'll try to start again and i'll see... i see so zero content for the Ntr path in this update?

Maybe a problem with save or patch?


There is some leia thing and miru mentioning things no

You have to remember miru loves mc and is not some cheap slut that just jumps on a cock ( maybe she will be when our princess leia is done with her)

Also other woman dont even have a relationship until know with mc

 

[Mortarion]

 

[mommysboiii]

Ocean is basically the Zack Snyder of AVNs. All style no substance. Literally remove the good renders and we get a below mediocre writing and ambitious yet try hard plot.

Dude you guys need to tell me what games you are all playing because I would love a game in qualitie of WiaB, with ntr elements/real antagonist , and slow burn story

Again I would instantly play it so only games that comes to my mind is our red string by evakiss that is more adult like

Man...what can i say.....after playing this Update...Feeling disappointed might be an massive understatement. This Game strong suit are definitive the Characters. I mean...there isn t any women who i wouldn t wanna bang...All of the Girls are simply stunning and breathtaking and Oceans Render Quality is out of this World....BUT....after 7 (SEVEN!!!!) fucking years of development....i expect a fully fleshed out Game with Tons of Dialogue and TONS (yeah right..TONS) of "sexy Time"! This whole Game feels like a 1930`s Mobster Movie..parked in the Present....and thats it. They are talking and talking and talking....and then at some point...a little teasing and you are thiinking to yourself, yeah man that it..he s finally getting some prime pussy...but oh well oh well...a little groping here and there...and...that it. Nothing happens. EVER! What is wrong with the MC?? He could drown in pussy and all he did was to cop a feel here and there?? Please Ocean...tell us...is the MC secretly gay?? I don t get it. What is this Game in reality??? Cut out the few very boring Sex Scene with Miru and you have a average Mobsters Movie...ready to stream it on Netflix. Mirus fucking aside...i have seen Sitcoms with more naked Skin in it than this one has. I am going to retire from work in about thirty-something years....maybe...just maybe...there will be a Sex Scene with another Girl in it..(and i am NOT talking about Miru). I have no idea what Ocean’s goal is with this game, but if he doesn’t start delivering (like REALLY soon), this game is dead. Just my opinion. Talking to all these girls is fine and all… building a relationship is also fine and all… but at SOME point, I’d like a little reward, you know? Throw me a bone here!



In conclusion this Game needs ASAP :



1. MUCH less talking

2. MUCH less teasing (unless it leads to something more right away)

3. MORE SEX (Yes...i mean it this way...its a porn Game fgs)

Again you guys seriously need to tell me what games you are all playing because the only game I know that I would rank on same qualitie with same criteria is our red string

 

[Mortarion]

Dude you guys need to tell me what games you are all playing because I would love a game in qualitie of WiaB, with ntr elements/antagonist , and slow burn story

Again I would instantly play it so only games that comes to my mind is our red string by evakiss that is more adult like

They can't because complaining about shit is way more entertaining ...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

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Never a joy my friend RNasc4444

 

[Turret]

- Well, that's the problem if some people felt that xyz is a core part of a game. After WIAB patreon got nuked it was clear that getting rid of this stuff is a must.
- What was the previous direction of the game? The old game was intended as a porn game, after the rework the game was never considered as such and got more heavy on the story side.
- Even old WIAB was a crime story, and post rework it was slightly hinted in CH1 - after Ch2 was no room left for any doubts in this direction.
- Not many games in the genre distributed in this board have this kind of narrative, it could be done better but I have seen much worse here.
- No one gives a fuck about NTR, it's a minor fraction of a minor fraction. In all game threads here that contain this stuff it's always the same handful of users that complain about this kind of stuff. Either the lack off or how it's done.
- That's a point. The lewd stuff sucks, to be honest, the locker room scene between Bella and Nika in SG was - for me - way more arousing than the h-stuff from WIAB.
- Jumping back to the IC staff are now?

My problem is that Ocean tossed out the baby together with the bath water! I was with WIAB for the family drama and it´s extensions in the city. It was written as the lost son coming home together with his intended. That there were big problems in the family and some outside stuff was actually the spice. The incest arc with Willi and Leia was a nice, a bit edgy addition, but it was never the main attraction for me. Would have been nice if kept in, esp. for the implications for the SG characters, but no big loss that it is out.
What I resent is the pseudo-Mafia-opera rewrite and how he assassinated the character designs. The Zanes, as far back as old WIAB, had business on both sides of the law, but it was clearly a fact that the legal stuff outsized the illegal by a wide margin. And while they had various problems, big and small, the Zanes were a family - as "new-old" Willi said in WIAB 1, that he often thinks about home and the others and now they finally go there.
Now in "new-new" WIAB, it is strongly implied that Helen raised Willi and Leia only for her own gain, no happy feelings involved and also let Willi rot in prison! It is completely idiotic to believe after being treated like that Willi would have any positive memories and would want to return home. No, everything from the first 3 chapters is not fitting anymore, it was made under the assumption the Zanes were a family, dysfunctional but halfway happy and Willi returning to right old wrongs he left behind and maybe making the family whole again.
The Zanes as of the rewrite are not really a family, simply flat-sharers and hardcore criminals. It is boring and supremely stupid.
I am so pissed off with this trainwreck Ocean made, I will certainly change my signature banners.

 

[RNasc4444]

Never a joy my friend RNasc4444

I think my brain has melted...who the fuck is Elena? I'm so confused

But it's ok, I don't care too much about When the Mafia Began

It's gonna be a wee bit sad if Mon and Daph turn out to have piercings too though. And as long as Kat is bangable, we good

 

[XV71]

7 years and the only thing that progressed is the image quality.

 

[Kond]

7 years and the only thing that progressed is the image quality.

If you played the update and didnt see any progress, then you should release the skip button and start to actually read the dialogue.

 

[XV71]

If you played the update and didnt see any progress, then you should release the skip button and start to actually read the dialogue.

was talking about the game as a whole not the update that completely flipped the narrative

 

[sorco2003]

I think my brain has melted...who the fuck is Elena? I'm so confused

Petrova

 

[Mortarion]

Petrova

To many names, need time to process all. Did she make a appearance until now?
If yes, where?

 

[sorco2003]

To many names, need time to process all. Did she make a appearance until now?
If yes, where?

No perse in the new WIAB (both of them), but yes in the old WIAB and you maybe know her as Sasha´s mom.

 

[RNasc4444]

Petrova

OMFG thank you!!!! I was wracking my brain trying to understand if he made a mistake. I couldn't remember anyone else except Donna.

 

[COOLMASTER]

for those who complain, i m not (and try to make the same qualtity game maybe your understand who difficulte it is
when you got a team of 6 to 20 peaple who work on it 24h/24

made this kind of quality game take a lot of time cause renders are long to reached

So this time i enjoyed after a long time we have a real up date, not short at all, renders are above as already, event and animation as well, an advance in the story and a hangig up at the end.


i m juste a little be sad there s no relation yet possible between scarlette and the MC.

i just hope now the dev DO 2 up date per years this game can be great, the dev can if he made asimplification somtetimes of position of people or use same image time to time in different plan, and sometimes just go to the point and the story
and escape some vanillia conversation

for the reste excellent keep going, can wait for a next up date in 5 month !

yes i challange the dev