VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Wildcard_20z

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Constructive feedback can be safely ignored. In fact, the best thing a developer can do with it is to ignore it. This has been proven many times by many devs.

People on his discord say whatever they want, as long as they respect the server rules. If you're going to discuss whether Nami and Nika's mom was a redhead, you'll probably get kicked out. This is the cause for most of the problems and conflicts in Discord - people don't bother to read the rules, they don't even bother to assume that there are any rules at all and that they are in the "rules" channel.

But overall, yes, this is his personal space, and you're going to visit it and be his guest. If you're going to spread the Burning Truth and prove to everyone there that they're idiots who can't be cured, you'll probably get kicked out too. Just like in real life, actually. :KEK:
In other words they say what they want as long as it not the opposite opinion of ocean and as long as it is not criticism.... got it
 

yossa999

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In other words they say what they want as long as it not the opposite opinion of ocean and as long as it is not criticism.... got it
For some reason which I don't understand, you think that your opinion is valuable to others, and they want to hear it. And if they don't want to, then they should still listen to you. Let me give you some advice - in life, everything is not like that. Nobody gives a shit about you except your friends and loved ones. And if you want to be a member of a certain community, then you will have to accept the rules adopted by this community and follow them. And I will not continue further, because in the f95 community, game threads are not for off-topic, but for discussing the game.

What about the best girl in WiAB? Zoey, right?
 

byaaahh

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People want a coherent story but with a lot of lewds, monogamous romance but in a harem, they want them big boobs but it makes them barf. Who cares what they want? A great writer evolves his audience expectations. A good writer can create a story that makes people suspend their disbeliefs and engage into it even if they say, "Fuck, that's not real." If you want realism, become a firefighter. Wasn't Hollywood called the Dream Factory? :KEK:
... and a bad writer changes the original story into a convoluted mess to appease a platform that already tossed him from their site.

Now we are left with a story where a man runs back to the people who orphaned him after 7 years of self-imposed exile, all because the woman who not only was instrumental in him being orphaned and also abandoned him after he was imprisoned, got hurt in an accident. Now he has to be judged by the families, where his biggest fear is... exile.

The story is a joke and to pretend otherwise is laughable.
 

yossa999

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... and a bad writer changes the original story into a convoluted mess to appease a platform that already tossed him from their site.
Probably. I don't follow such a writers.
Now we are left with a story where a man runs back to the people who orphaned him after 7 years of self-imposed exile, all because the woman who not only was instrumental in him being orphaned and also abandoned him after he was imprisoned, got hurt in an accident.
Yep. Works like a charm. Much better than cest.
The story is a joke and to pretend otherwise is laughable.
The story is great and I'm looking forward to the next SG release to see the aftermath of some of the events in WiAB 20 years later.
 
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txe320

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... and a bad writer changes the original story into a convoluted mess to appease a platform that already tossed him from their site.

Now we are left with a story where a man runs back to the people who orphaned him after 7 years of self-imposed exile, all because the woman who not only was instrumental in him being orphaned and also abandoned him after he was imprisoned, got hurt in an accident. Now he has to be judged by the families, where his biggest fear is... exile.

The story is a joke and to pretend otherwise is laughable.
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I mean, someone can like this story and it's okay, but if someone is defending this story saying it makes sense, it's not an opinion anymore, you just can't see facts.

It's like a movie; can you like a Steven Seagal's direct-to-DVD movie? Yes you can.

Can you say that the story is great and make sense? No, because the story has a million plot holes and nothing make sense because the main thing about these movies are just for seeing him kick asses.

Same thing with this one; you can think that the new WiaB story is fun and you love it, that's your opinion, your taste and it's okay. But, saying the story is great and make sense now is laughable because the fact is there and the fact is that, the story isn't great and doesn't make sense at all.
 
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zvingo

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where is chapter 4? i downloaded it and it plays only to the end of chapter 3. even in the game folder it only has chapter 1-3 no 4 at all. am i missing something?
They said we should delete all mods and patches and play from the beginning..
 

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I mean, someone can like this story and it's okay, but if someone is defending this story saying it makes sense, it's not an opinion anymore, you just can't see facts.

It's like a movie; can you like a Steven Seagal's direct-to-DVD movie? Yes you can.

Can you say that the story is great and make sense? No, because the story has a million plot holes and nothing make sense because the main thing about these movies are just for seeing him kick asses.

Same thing with this one; you can think that the new WiaB story is fun and you love it, that's your opinion, your taste and it's okay. But, saying the story is great and make sense now is laughable because the fact is there and the fact is that, the story isn't great and doesn't make sense at all.
So all those of us who said it had the same inconsistencies before didn't see the facts and couldn't have an opinion?
Sure, I think I understand the difference, having never said that this game sucks, with incest or now, then it's not an opinion, it's the vision of a blinded fanatic. (y)
 

txe320

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So all those of us who said it had the same inconsistencies before didn't see the facts and couldn't have an opinion?
Sure, I think I understand the difference, having never said that this game sucks, with incest or now, then it's not an opinion, it's the vision of a blinded fanatic. (y)
Exactly! Finally someone who gets it!

That's why it's frustrating, the story is getting dumber and dumber at every rework!

At least, with the incest, some thing was making sense in that shitshow, but now it's not like a part of it make sense anymore because nothing make sense. The story is worst than it was before, and the characters looks like dumb fuck right now and it was laughable. Nothing make sense, nothing looks good (I'm not talking about the renders, they still look amazing) and the plot that was like a B movie before, continue to sink.
 

dan_roger69

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Zealot! Let's create an echo chamber!

So, have you realized all your delusions yet, rejected Katie as main LI and accepted Zoey as the new main LI, and Katie as a pleasant addition for a threesome?
Also, Katie doesn't look like Helen's daughter at all. Leia and William look like Helens children. Katie looks like she was RECRUITED :ROFLMAO:.
 
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byaaahh

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Do you want to start with why a person gets out of their car to talk on the phone in the rain, or why it took so many years to find William if he was just a phone call away?
Leia never wanted to contact William, she clearly still despises him for abandoning her during Ch1-3.

As for the rain, aesthetics.
 

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Also, Katie doesn't look like Helen's daughter at all. Leia and William look like Helens children. Katies looks like she was RECRUITED :ROFLMAO:.
They look similar, especially in the scenes where they are sitting on the couch with William. Leia also looks very similar, there is an image of the two of them side by side and it is impossible not to see the reminiscence.
 

yossa999

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Also, Katies doesn't look like Helen's daughter at all. Leia and William look like Helens children. Katies looks like she was RECRUITED :ROFLMAO:.
You too? Don't even fucking start it. :cautious:

The only plothole I want to discuss is Zoey's (and Katie's) :giggle:

I also wouldn't mind a playthrough where the MC lets Leia marry some Garibaldi or whatever mafioso they tell her to, and then they cuck her hubby in their wedding night!

Also the GaryCuck variable is set in my save :giggle:
 

byaaahh

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You see, you don't want to see the holes, you are a fanatic, you have no opinion.
What holes? Someone in the family knew his number and nobody cared enough because he left.

William was ashamed because he fell in love with his twin, making it difficult to explain why he truly left to Helen/Dylan, so he avoided them.
Katie was happy he was gone because one of her bullies skipped town.
Leia felt abandoned and resentful he never took her with.

With Ch4, he leaves because he loves another orphaned pawn of the criminal family that killed their families and took them in.
Helen knew where he was but was pissed he left, but concurrently loves him more than the daughter she birthed.
Dylan remains sitting in the narrative cuck chair..
Katie remains unchanged.
Leia is blackmailed into calling William by her employees, like they know him and his penis makes Leia see clearly.
 
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