VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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txe320

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So all those of us who said it had the same inconsistencies before didn't see the facts and couldn't have an opinion?
Sure, I think I understand the difference, having never said that this game sucks, with incest or now, then it's not an opinion, it's the vision of a blinded fanatic. (y)
Exactly! Finally someone who gets it!

That's why it's frustrating, the story is getting dumber and dumber at every rework!

At least, with the incest, some thing was making sense in that shitshow, but now it's not like a part of it make sense anymore because nothing make sense. The story is worst than it was before, and the characters looks like dumb fuck right now and it was laughable. Nothing make sense, nothing looks good (I'm not talking about the renders, they still look amazing) and the plot that was like a B movie before, continue to sink.
 

dan_roger69

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Zealot! Let's create an echo chamber!

So, have you realized all your delusions yet, rejected Katie as main LI and accepted Zoey as the new main LI, and Katie as a pleasant addition for a threesome?
Also, Katie doesn't look like Helen's daughter at all. Leia and William look like Helens children. Katie looks like she was RECRUITED :ROFLMAO:.
 
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byaaahh

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Do you want to start with why a person gets out of their car to talk on the phone in the rain, or why it took so many years to find William if he was just a phone call away?
Leia never wanted to contact William, she clearly still despises him for abandoning her during Ch1-3.

As for the rain, aesthetics.
 

sorco2003

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Also, Katie doesn't look like Helen's daughter at all. Leia and William look like Helens children. Katies looks like she was RECRUITED :ROFLMAO:.
They look similar, especially in the scenes where they are sitting on the couch with William. Leia also looks very similar, there is an image of the two of them side by side and it is impossible not to see the reminiscence.
 

yossa999

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Also, Katies doesn't look like Helen's daughter at all. Leia and William look like Helens children. Katies looks like she was RECRUITED :ROFLMAO:.
You too? Don't even fucking start it. :cautious:

The only plothole I want to discuss is Zoey's (and Katie's) :giggle:

I also wouldn't mind a playthrough where the MC lets Leia marry some Garibaldi or whatever mafioso they tell her to, and then they cuck her hubby in their wedding night!

Also the GaryCuck variable is set in my save :giggle:
 

byaaahh

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You see, you don't want to see the holes, you are a fanatic, you have no opinion.
What holes? Someone in the family knew his number and nobody cared enough because he left.

William was ashamed because he fell in love with his twin, making it difficult to explain why he truly left to Helen/Dylan, so he avoided them.
Katie was happy he was gone because one of her bullies skipped town.
Leia felt abandoned and resentful he never took her with.

With Ch4, he leaves because he loves another orphaned pawn of the criminal family that killed their families and took them in.
Helen knew where he was but was pissed he left, but concurrently loves him more than the daughter she birthed.
Dylan remains sitting in the narrative cuck chair..
Katie remains unchanged.
Leia is blackmailed into calling William by her employees, like they know him and his penis makes Leia see clearly.
 

byaaahh

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exuses excuses... but you buy all of this because your reasons.
What's funny is I was a huge fan who would overlook small inconsistencies in the past, but after the horrendous butchering of Ch4, nope!

Also no examples of inconsistencies prior to Ch4 have been presented. (y)
 
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FalconLover420

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So I finished playing but it looks like some scenes are missing and the patreon button gets deleted.

If anyone can help me out, that would be great.

Also would be greatful if someone can give me a TLDR, because the story is still foggy regarding the events.

All I know is Katie hates the MC's guts but Leia kinda at times likes him and other times, doesnt.
Then the accident involving the family and Leia being blackmailed. Im lost lol
 

Maviarab

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So I finished playing but it looks like some scenes are missing and the patreon button gets deleted.

If anyone can help me out, that would be great.
Not really much to go on. What do you think is missing and where does it end?
 
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