VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[John972]

Because the MCs are Joe's and Leia is running Joe's businesses. Do you think those bouncers are not in the MC?

Yeah, but still, this is my point, they should not he relying of Leia's man to protect themselves

Só the only men that the Zane has are those of the motoclub ? Dylan and Helen don't have any men of their own ?

I'm kinda like... how long has Joey Arano been in prison?

Surely, it's been at least a decade because all his employees seem to have forgotten he's the boss and now worship at the alter of Princess Leia.

Was Joey just the frontman for the Zane crime family?

 

[Ray_D]

isn't this game abandoned or am i mistaken? i haven't seen any post on the patreon or subscribestar page.

Say it with me, folks: I can't read, I am an AVN fannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

 

[bobbo69]

Is not about more people, is about their people, people loyal to the Zanes and not the Aranos. Yeah, I get that they are allied but still. What is preveting Joe to just take all over ? Force is power in this world, and the Zanes have none. Is one thing to use the motoclub to do the dirty work and as cannon fodder but is another don't have personal of your own.

Yeah, the family took a blow but it seems like they still are the major players in Wollust, or that is the Italian Uncle?




Just take off the mods mu dude

I don't use mods

 

[Farspire]

Jesus John no!
This thing will haunt me in my nightmares for days.

It is unlikely to happen

Any known reason for that?

 

[jadepaladin]

A whole year for this update and I didn't noticed any new contents at all, it finishes at the same place, very disappointed, hope the other game ain't the same.

If you're like the 90% of other people that had this problem, you probably have an i-patch installed. Since there's not a new i-patch for chapter 4 (and probably won't be for a while, if ever), the story stops at the end of the patch. To get chapter 4, you need a install that doesn't have the patch, and a clean save. Chapters 1-3 have some reworked dialogue to address the removal of incest from the plot.

 

[Maccabbee]

Is not about more people, is about their people, people loyal to the Zanes and not the Aranos. Yeah, I get that they are allied but still. What is preveting Joe to just take all over ? Force is power in this world, and the Zanes have none. Is one thing to use the motoclub to do the dirty work and as cannon fodder but is another don't have personal of your own.

Yeah, the family took a blow but it seems like they still are the major players in Wollust, or that is the Italian Uncle?




Just take off the mods mu dude

What do you net see about them all being one family? Scarlett would cut his balls off and feed them to him if Joe pulled that shit.

 

[Maccabbee]

I'm kinda like... how long has Joey Arano been in prison?

Surely, it's been at least a decade because all his employees seem to have forgotten he's the boss and now worship at the alter of Princess Leia.

Was Joey just the frontman for the Zane crime family?

I think it's only been a few years, but they do mention somewhere in the game. Leia is his "neice" sort of, and he had her take over while he was in. There were battles with the Krayts after that.

 

[Ara-sH]

Well yes and no. She's no longer mom, but has plenty of scenes.

since when she is no mom? I think last time i played was 3 years ago.

 

[jadepaladin]

since when she is no mom? I think last time i played was 3 years ago.

Since chapter 4 released on July 4th. Ocean rewrote some of the plot so that Will and Leia aren't biologically or legally related to the Zanes anymore.

 

[Deleted member 7609580]

You're making me angry all over again...

That William render still pisses me off. I just wanna bash his skull in with a socket wrench (get it? ) while I ask him calmly:
"WHY THE FUCK DID YOU COME BACK THEN YOU BRAINDEAD MONKEY?!?!!?!?"

And he replies as every bone in his face breaks and he drowns in blood:
"Ma....Maf.....ia....Mafia reasons.."

I propose another change to the scenario: simply change the mafia to a dictatorship or a cult. You could then argue it was simple brainwashing from a young age. I even have a very catchy porn name for the leader.

"Big Member Dylan"

 

[Mars_ixv]

So can you not play this with a Ipatch anymore? I'm not even a big fan of it but after playing the original, it made no sense without a patch and now I don't know how to play it without Leia and William being twins. Taking out the patch might have killed this game for me if so.

 

[Chut12]

anyone have updated incest patch?

 

[Jin-Woo']

 

[minibaer12]

So can you not play this with a Ipatch anymore? I'm not even a big fan of it but after playing the original, it made no sense without a patch and now I don't know how to play it without Leia and William being twins. Taking out the patch might have killed this game for me if so.

Fact 1: The original has absolutely nothing in common with today's story, apart from the characters, and is IRRELEVANT!
Fact 2: Ocean wants to sell his VN, and the sales platforms don't tolerate incest.
Fact 3: Ocean shows little to no consideration for our wishes.

Now, regarding your opinion that the story doesn't make sense to you just because William and Leia are no longer siblings. I have to tell you that you're asking the wrong question. We know that about 20 or 30 years ago, there was a mafia war in which at least four people lost their lives. This raises the first question: What was the cause and who was involved? As a result of this conflict, Helen took William and Leia in. Here's the second question: Why?

It's well known that people can be quite vindictive in mafia circles, and rivalry is part of everyday business. Is there a possibility that the conflict from back then continues to have repercussions today?

 

[minibaer12]

anyone have updated incest patch?

and how do you want to justify THAT?

Do you see the name Zane here?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Too cloae to incest, Ocean is not given anyone any reasons, and that is the problem. William was never a Zane but they are in fact his family, I would fucking love a scene where William has to confront that, give this relationship deepth beyond mafia, is where Ocean shines and could be great but I think it still would be to close to something he dosen't want to be associated anymore and in turn we ger this something that is netiher.

Edit: Meaning they are not a mafia family but also are not a normal family. Those are things that he can workout that this update did not even tried to, it was just to make sure that William was not fucking his sister or mom or cousin or aunt. The only way it would be more clear was if Ocean slaped me with Patreon and SS ToS.

I imagine this is Ocean's motivation, but he has to find a balance between the mafia and their interpersonal relationships. Otherwise, William's return seems out of nowhere, and every cute/affectionate moment (which I adore, by the way) feels out of place.

1. The MC gang is their main enforcers and they are scattered without Joe. I assume Leia has a bunch of them in Joe's businesses.

That they are allies is clear, but there should be men loyal to Helen (or Dylan)

3. Dylan's comment is that too much security would make it impossible to trap whoever is stalking the house, which is how he plans to find out what the fuck is going on. Is that bright? NO, but it's his plan. He is pretty tough, and has a shotgun. There's been no gunplay before. He figured it's low-risk. OOPS.

Dylan's plan is understandable: he appears weak in order to lure some of the attackers into a trap and track down the mastermind. The problem is that the Zanes don't appear weak, they are.

Any known reason for that?

Ocean has rewritten the story to eliminate and discourage any form of incest within it. So the mod should not change some terms like landlady and roommate but basically rewrite the story.

Helen took William and Leia in. Here's the second question: Why?

I think Ocean wants you to be satisfied as an answer that they thought they couldn't have children

 

[Farspire]

thats kind of sad first 3 chapters made so much sense of them being biological family... then chapter 4 hit and turns it on its head. Yes i know Ocean wants to sell it and most platforms frown on it. Just feels like two different stories now... kinda makes me feel sad in the end.

 

[MIkedante]

The Patreon page for WHIAB was destroyed, changes are needed so that it doesn't affect SG page, and SS doesn't delete the profile, since I is prohibited there too.

Yeah, keep telling this BS to yourself bro and at some point you even start fully believe it like Ocean and some of his WK did.

 

[Jackie123]

Anyone can share me the compressed version?

 

[John972]

thats kind of sad first 3 chapters made so much sense of them being biological family... then chapter 4 hit and turns it on its head. Yes i know Ocean wants to sell it and most platforms frown on it. Just feels like two different stories now... kinda makes me feel sad in the end.

As much as people think the original story made sense, it didn't.

If William feared the repercussions from his "inappropriate" relationship with Leia being discovered, then why the hell didn't he take her with him when he fled?