SexGameSluts — Who Will You Fuck First? Play Now!
x

VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

4.00 star(s) 237 Votes
Discussion Reviews (237)
Mortarion

Mortarion

Engaged Member
Donor
Oct 22, 2017
2,060
7,400
769
gyshia915 said:
I just checked the code from that scene and it only depends on MiruNTR3x0. Mhy is not checked at all. There's a couple of lines that are different depending on if William said to Miru that he loves her at the train station, but it's basically just 2 scenes: normal or ntr.

Regarding the code, I did another PT yesterday and I noticed there're some inconsistencies with the flags KatieTrust4x0 and KatieInvolved. I think Ocean may have messed them up a couple of times and there's at least one bug in there. Have you guys talked about this or is this already well known?
Click to expand...
I assume neither of it.
The most dudes here only complaining about bullshit because of ...
reasons...
But doing something constructive, like report a possible bug, is to much.
Complaining is much easier and requires way less effort.

I recommend to talk about this on Oceans discord in the bug report channels. Or you send me here a DM with the possible errors in the script, best with a little explanation and I relay it directly to Ocean. I have never noticed this potential error, because I basically don't play any Netorare routes - no matter what game.
 
byaaahh

byaaahh

Active Member
Feb 3, 2018
752
1,418
306
gyshia915 said:
I just checked the code from that scene and it only depends on MiruNTR3x0. Mhy is not checked at all. There's a couple of lines that are different depending on if William said to Miru that he loves her at the train station, but it's basically just 2 scenes: normal or ntr.
Click to expand...
Miru being horny may not implicitly be labelled for that scene, but her being horny is required for her to get fingered at the bar, which is the requirement to unlock that scene.

She obviously bumps into the guy who fingers her in the bar on the train, they fool around in a taxi (not present in game, but in files) and she brings him home, which is why it's so different. Why did it never made it into the update? Guessing Ocean wants it as a flashback in future.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Icekatana
G

gyshia915

Newbie
Oct 18, 2022
24
39
137
byaaahh said:
Miru being horny may not implicitly be labelled for that scene, but her being horny is required for her to get fingered at the bar, which is the requirement to unlock that scene.
Click to expand...
Yes, of course, that's tracked by the var MiruNTR3x0 that I mentioned.

Mortarion said:
I recommend to talk about this on Oceans discord in the bug report channels. Or you send me here a DM with the possible errors in the script, best with a little explanation and I relay it directly to Ocean. I have never noticed this potential error, because I basically don't play any Netorare routes - no matter what game.
Click to expand...
Oh ok, that'd be cool if you could tell Ocean directly so that he can take a look into it. I'll post it here so that others can see it too and share some thoughts.

No need to say that this contains spoilers to Katie's path so anyone that hasn't played it yet should not read this.


Let's beging. After hugging both Kata and Katie while watching Tiny Grey, if William kissed Katie's butt he can:

"Try to establish a base of trust with Katie."
This will set the flag KatieTrust4x0.

Then Katie proposes to take the picture, which will set the flag PlayWithFire and William will touch her boob and ass. If William says no, they won't do anything and just the KatieTrust4x0 var will be true. And if William accepts, they can take it further a couple of times more and set the flags KatieTiddyTouch4x0 and KatieIntPrime.


OK, let's jump to the shower scene. The condition for William to stay and get the whole scene is KatieTrust4x0. Let's assume this is intended and let's pretend we're doing a PT with KatieTrust4x0 but with William saying no to the picture thing.

The first minor incosistency happens at the beginning of the scene with these lines:
Code: 
    k "I'm not ashamed of my body... I model online for my clothes."
    k "I showed you my creations on myself!"
    k "I don't think I have to mention that you put your fingers on my boobs."
    d "I only did it because you were making a game out of it."
But that didn't happen in our PT because they didn't take the picture.


Now the important part. After a while they beging to talk about other families wanting to marry them, specially Leia. So William can get this info with just KatieTrust4x0.

After that William has the choice to tell Katie:
"You know we'd work out."
which will set the flag Katie_WO. And if he does that, then he can:
"Approach her and play with her."
which will set KatieInvolved, and it seems to be so far the flag to track Katie's path.


Now, before going to the club, if William bended Dana over the table, Zoey will talk with him about it, and if besides that KatieTrust4x0 is set, this dialogue will happen:
Code: 
    z "Katie told me what you two did..."
    z "Oh my God! You're a menace!"
    z "You will be the end of us all!"
    d "Calm down!"
    z "What if Leia finds out?!"
    z "Are yo-"
    "Zoey begins to hyperventilate."
    ...
    z "Please, don't do anything with Katie or Dana until we have dealt with Leia."
    z "Please!"
    d "(She probably has a point... and I'll have a talk with that stupid fish.)"
    d "(However, Zoey didn't give me the feeling she's objecting to me and Katie...)"
And after the club, when William and Katie are alone (again with DanaBendOverTable and KatieTrust4x0):
Code: 
    d "Why the hell did you tell Zoey what we did?"
    k "Mh? Did I?"
    d "Yes, you bitch."
    d "I should've known you can't be trusted."
    k "What did she say?"
    d "Nothing positive."
    k "But did I tell her, though?"
    d "*serious* She said so!"
    k "Yeah, I got that."
    k "But what did I tell her?"
    k "I told her that you begged me to give me a foot massage."
    k "That you were weirdly into them and that I got the feeling you wanted me to dominate you."
    d "...Fuck off."
    k "And by not contradicting her, she now thinks you did."
    if KatieInvolved:
        k "You're playing with fire."
        k "You haven't earned this. Suck on my feet first."
    d "You're a grade A weirdo."
    k "I'm the weirdo, alright."
You could say that William's reaction is valid even if the only thing they did was William staying in the bathroom while she took the shower, but it seems to me that it's implied that they at least took the picture. And again, the only var checked for these two scenes is KatieTrust4x0.


OK, and finally what to me is definitely a bug. At the club, when William goes to see Leia alone a second time, he can say this only if KatieInvolved:

"Mention the talks about a potential wedding between her and someone from the Giuseppe family."
which will set LeiaKGM and (LeiaTrust = 1). But like I explained before, William has that info with just staying at the bathroom with Katie, he doesn't need to take things further with her. So in this case KatieTrust4x0 should be enough.
 
Mortarion

Mortarion

Engaged Member
Donor
Oct 22, 2017
2,060
7,400
769
gyshia915 said:
Yes, of course, that's tracked by the var MiruNTR3x0 that I mentioned.



Oh ok, that'd be cool if you could tell Ocean directly so that he can take a look into it. I'll post it here so that others can see it too and share some thoughts.

No need to say that this contains spoilers to Katie's path so anyone that hasn't played it yet should not read this.


Let's beging. After hugging both Kata and Katie while watching Tiny Grey, if William kissed Katie's butt he can:

"Try to establish a base of trust with Katie."
This will set the flag KatieTrust4x0.

Then Katie proposes to take the picture, which will set the flag PlayWithFire and William will touch her boob and ass. If William says no, they won't do anything and just the KatieTrust4x0 var will be true. And if William accepts, they can take it further a couple of times more and set the flags KatieTiddyTouch4x0 and KatieIntPrime.


OK, let's jump to the shower scene. The condition for William to stay and get the whole scene is KatieTrust4x0. Let's assume this is intended and let's pretend we're doing a PT with KatieTrust4x0 but with William saying no to the picture thing.

The first minor incosistency happens at the beginning of the scene with these lines:
Code: 
    k "I'm not ashamed of my body... I model online for my clothes."
    k "I showed you my creations on myself!"
    k "I don't think I have to mention that you put your fingers on my boobs."
    d "I only did it because you were making a game out of it."
But that didn't happen in our PT because they didn't take the picture.


Now the important part. After a while they beging to talk about other families wanting to marry them, specially Leia. So William can get this info with just KatieTrust4x0.

After that William has the choice to tell Katie:
"You know we'd work out."
which will set the flag Katie_WO. And if he does that, then he can:
"Approach her and play with her."
which will set KatieInvolved, and it seems to be so far the flag to track Katie's path.


Now, before going to the club, if William bended Dana over the table, Zoey will talk with him about it, and if besides that KatieTrust4x0 is set, this dialogue will happen:
Code: 
    z "Katie told me what you two did..."
    z "Oh my God! You're a menace!"
    z "You will be the end of us all!"
    d "Calm down!"
    z "What if Leia finds out?!"
    z "Are yo-"
    "Zoey begins to hyperventilate."
    ...
    z "Please, don't do anything with Katie or Dana until we have dealt with Leia."
    z "Please!"
    d "(She probably has a point... and I'll have a talk with that stupid fish.)"
    d "(However, Zoey didn't give me the feeling she's objecting to me and Katie...)"
And after the club, when William and Katie are alone (again with DanaBendOverTable and KatieTrust4x0):
Code: 
    d "Why the hell did you tell Zoey what we did?"
    k "Mh? Did I?"
    d "Yes, you bitch."
    d "I should've known you can't be trusted."
    k "What did she say?"
    d "Nothing positive."
    k "But did I tell her, though?"
    d "*serious* She said so!"
    k "Yeah, I got that."
    k "But what did I tell her?"
    k "I told her that you begged me to give me a foot massage."
    k "That you were weirdly into them and that I got the feeling you wanted me to dominate you."
    d "...Fuck off."
    k "And by not contradicting her, she now thinks you did."
    if KatieInvolved:
        k "You're playing with fire."
        k "You haven't earned this. Suck on my feet first."
    d "You're a grade A weirdo."
    k "I'm the weirdo, alright."
You could say that William's reaction is valid even if the only thing they did was William staying in the bathroom while she took the shower, but it seems to me that it's implied that they at least took the picture. And again, the only var checked for these two scenes is KatieTrust4x0.


OK, and finally what to me is definitely a bug. At the club, when William goes to see Leia alone a second time, he can say this only if KatieInvolved:

"Mention the talks about a potential wedding between her and someone from the Giuseppe family."
which will set LeiaKGM and (LeiaTrust = 1). But like I explained before, William has that info with just staying at the bathroom with Katie, he doesn't need to take things further with her. So in this case KatieTrust4x0 should be enough.
Click to expand...
Consider your potential bug report as ...
... reported(?) o_O

Argh, screw it. You know what I mean...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
4.00 star(s) 237 Votes