VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Anony9876]

No still in game .. and if you mean new ntr sex or fast ntr plot no

i see cause i had a save for when i had to make the decision if to let her get touched and it gave me an error,but i'll try to start again and i'll see... i see so zero content for the Ntr path in this update?

 

[danov17]

help me..



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[xCalon]

Now, after a 25 hours WiaB playthrough I can say that I am sincerely grateful to Ocean for rewriting the story. It's quite obvious to me that this wasn't the original story before, but - for certain unfortunate reasons - he was somewhat forced to rewrite it, thereby making both Where it all Began and Summer's Gone as bullet/future-proof as possible.

Is it flawless? Of course not!
Are there plot holes and logical errors? Oh, hell yes!
Does this bother me? Not nearly as much as what I've seen in the topic over the past two days.
Does it bother me that family relationships have changed and the incest have been dropped? Not in the least.

I have no intention of stating that I am right, I have simply expressed my own opinion. However, I would be interested in what those, who are now so upset about the way the story continued in Ch4 think, what should have happened in the prequel for the things we have seen so far in Summer's Gone to happen. Just with this one new chapter, so many what ifs, maybes and wishful thinkings went into the trash, that it's visible from space. And I don't think that's a problem.

I'll write again what I wrote over a year ago. It's clearly not flawless, there's room for improvement, there's room for fair criticism, but I spent 8 euros in the past on much more unnecessary things than WiaB.

 

[Joan6969]

Absolutely!

- People who felt incest was a core part of WiAB got fucked
- People who liked the previous direction of the story got fucked
- People who don't appreciate Mafia themes got fucked
- People who enjoy a coherent narrative got fucked
- People who like NTR got fucked
- People who like sex scenes got fucked
- People who enjoyed the previous connection and dynamics between the Zane family members got fucked

Plenty of people got fucked.

If you mean in game....then no
You get one sexy time scene with Miru and that's it.

That's a whole lotta Fucking right there.....a ton more then the actually game!
For whatever reason it seems Ocean is not a big fan when it comes to sex in a AVN and for what little sex there is..... kinda lame!

 

[Gumshoe08]

That's a whole lotta Fucking right there.....a ton more then the actually game!
For whatever reason it seems Ocean is not a big fan when it comes to sex in a AVN and for what little sex there is..... kinda lame!

Ocean is basically the Zack Snyder of AVNs. All style no substance. Literally remove the good renders and we get a below mediocre writing and ambitious yet try hard plot.

 

[The Krogan Dude]

- People who don't appreciate Mafia themes got fucked
- People who enjoy a coherent narrative got fucked
- People who like NTR got fucked
- People who like sex scenes got fucked

With such criterias, I've been more savagely fucked than a pornstar in a blacked gang bang.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Man...what can i say.....after playing this Update...Feeling disappointed might be an massive understatement. This Game strong suit are definitive the Characters. I mean...there isn t any women who i wouldn t wanna bang...All of the Girls are simply stunning and breathtaking and Oceans Render Quality is out of this World....BUT....after 7 (SEVEN!!!!) fucking years of development....i expect a fully fleshed out Game with Tons of Dialogue and TONS (yeah right..TONS) of "sexy Time"! This whole Game feels like a 1930`s Mobster Movie..parked in the Present....and thats it. They are talking and talking and talking....and then at some point...a little teasing and you are thinking to yourself, yeah man thats it..he s finally getting some prime pussy...but oh well oh well...a little groping here and there...and...thats it. Nothing happens. EVER! What is wrong with the MC?? He could drown in pussy and all he did was to cop a feel here and there?? Please Ocean...tell us...is the MC secretly gay?? I don t get it. What is this Game up to??? Cut out the few very boring Sex Scene with Miru and you have a average Mobsters Movie...ready to stream it on Netflix. Mirus fucking aside...i have seen Sitcoms with more naked Skin in it than this one has. I am going to retire from work in about thirty-something years....maybe...just maybe...there will be a Sex Scene with another Girl in it..(and i am NOT talking about Miru). I have no idea what Ocean’s goal is with this game, but if he doesn’t start delivering (like REALLY soon), this game is dead. Just my opinion. Talking to all these girls is fine and all… building a relationship is also fine and all… but at SOME point, I’d like a little reward, you know? Throw me a bone here!

In conclusion this Game needs ASAP :

1. MUCH less talking
2. MUCH less teasing (unless it leads to something more right away)
3. MORE SEX (Yes...i mean it this way...its a porn Game fgs)

Ehrlich Ocean....so langsam möchte ich die Titten und Ärsche mal in Action sehen...! Mach mal was...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Ocean is basically the Zack Snyder of AVNs. All style no substance. Literally remove the good renders and we get a below mediocre writing and ambitious yet try hard plot.

After watching Rebel Moon.. they both need a No Man

 

[Dingolingo]

After watching Rebel Moon.. they both need a No Man

im glad we all agree on that dogshite.
wouldnt watch nr. 2 if i got paid to do it. i just dont wanna know lmao.

i do agree with the analogy of Ocean = Snyder. couldnt fit better imho.

 

[John972]

Now, after playing through WiaB for 25 hours, I can say that I am sincerely grateful to Ocean for rewriting the story. It's quite obvious to me that this wasn't the original story before, but - for certain unfortunate reasons - he was somewhat forced to rewrite it, thereby making both Where it all Began and Summer's Gone as bullet/future-proof as possible.

Is it flawless? Of course not!
Are there plot holes and logical errors? Oh, hell yes!
Does this bother me? Not nearly as much as what I've seen in the topic over the past two days.
Does it bother me that family relationships have changed and the incest have been dropped? Not in the least.

I have no intention of stating that I am right, I have simply expressed my own opinion. However, I would be interested in what those, who are now so upset about the way the story continued in Ch4 think, what should have happened in the prequel for the things we have seen so far in Summer's Gone to happen. Just with this one new chapter, so many what ifs, maybes and wishful thinkings went into the trash, that it's visible from space. And I don't think that's a problem.

I'll write again what I wrote over a year ago. It's clearly not flawless, there's room for improvement, there's room for fair criticism, but I spent 8 euros in the past on much more unnecessary things than WiaB.

While I admit that I haven't trawled every post from the last few days, I have not seen anyone express a reasoned argument about how Ocean could've handled the i-change any better.

I think WIAB always meant to have the criminal underworld element (at least since reworked WIAB Ch 1), so I don't find the mafia inclusion too unexpected. I don't really care either way. We'll see how it goes.

As to plot holes or things that don't exactly mirror real life... this is the OceanVerse, for goodness sake! "Old timers" should be well used to it by now. Heck, WIAB/SG have anthropomorphic snakes, spiders, rats, and raccoons, outrageously ostentatious female apparel (leading to many unabashed tit-slips), and gravity defying anime hairstyles. It's not planet earth, let alone anything resembling real life. In one way, thank goodness for that! If WIAB mirrored real life, the Zanes might've been wacked by now, so game over.

Ironically, there is one angle with the changes I am interested in because they may hint at one of the underlying mysteries in SG...

WIAB - Presumably, the "three judges" crime families (i.e. including the Giuseppes and Morellis) wacked the heads of the the Grimaldi and Pedersoli crime families, leaving William and Leia as orphans brought up by the Zanes. I expect the Zane/Arano syndicate to wack the heads of the Giuseppe, Morelli et al crime families by the conclusion of WIAB.

SG - There is no sign of the Giuseppes and Morellis so far in SG. It seems that ZPR dominate. Are the two surviving young children of the original "three judges" families living with Nojiko in SG?

Kinda cliché, I know, but also kinda poetic.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

As to plot holes or things that don't exactly mirror real life... this is the OceanVerse, for goodness sake! "Old timers" should be well used to it by now. Heck, WIAB/SG have anthropomorphic snakes, spiders, rats, and raccoons, outrageously ostentatious female apparel (leading to many unabashed tit-slips), and gravity defying anime hairstyles.

No, for the simple fact that Ocean uses the term "mafia" to do the heavy lifting, if in his universe it works differently or he wants to insert some anime bullshit it's up to him to specify it in the dialogues or with a glossary

im glad we all agree on that dogshite.
wouldnt watch nr. 2 if i got paid to do it. i just dont wanna know lmao.

I saw all 4 of them XD

 

[LHDLLB]

There is some story in the gaps and nonsense

Ocean has drastically altered the dynamics between the Zanes, Leia and William are subordinates of the Zane family:
They can't Bully Katie, that concept would have been burned into their souls after the first incident.
Leia shouldn't have that arrogant behavior in her Boss's house at all.
Willy isn't going home to the people who raised him but to a life of organized crime.
William is a deserter they should want him dead not exiled, and it's already strange that they didn't take care of him when he was in prison.

Every family interaction is out of place in the new story because they are not family


I'm starting to feel like Ross "We Were On A Break!"

That is the only problem for me, the first 3 chapthers is filled with shame, longing, resentment in all those characters, not only William, and it worked great. Chapther 4 completely pivot the story. Is not that it can't work, is that it wasn't seted up at all in the early chapthers. Scenes like William seeing Helen again where thought out when she was his mother, same with Dylan, it all feels like the prodigic son coming home and is great. And this update goes against all that.

Helen and Dylan can have a love relationship and feel like he is their son, is hard no to when you raise a child, but a certain coldness and practicality should also be there because they weren’t just a family. And I would drop the marrige plot line, feels really forced to me, just make that the kids thought they were doing something wrong but nobody gave a fuck and let Katie and Leia be just LIs, as is Helen now, William dosen't have second thoughts about fucking her.

 

[Dingolingo]

I saw all 4 of them XD

THERE ARE FUCKING 4 OF THEM ALREADY?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
oh my gewd lawd.

 

[Mortarion]

I'm confused that ocean consider the gloryhole scene with leia ntr.

If this kind of stuff is not labeled properly, even more crybabys than now would crawl out of their holes with torches and forks and complain because ...
... reasons.

Absolutely!

- People who felt incest was a core part of WiAB got fucked
- People who liked the previous direction of the story got fucked
- People who don't appreciate Mafia themes got fucked
- People who enjoy a coherent narrative got fucked
- People who like NTR got fucked
- People who like sex scenes got fucked
- People who enjoyed the previous connection and dynamics between the Zane family members got fucked

Plenty of people got fucked.

If you mean in game....then no
You get one sexy time scene with Miru and that's it.

- Well, that's the problem if some people felt that xyz is a core part of a game. After WIAB patreon got nuked it was clear that getting rid of this stuff is a must.
- What was the previous direction of the game? The old game was intended as a porn game, after the rework the game was never considered as such and got more heavy on the story side.
- Even old WIAB was a crime story, and post rework it was slightly hinted in CH1 - after Ch2 was no room left for any doubts in this direction.
- Not many games in the genre distributed in this board have this kind of narrative, it could be done better but I have seen much worse here.
- No one gives a fuck about NTR, it's a minor fraction of a minor fraction. In all game threads here that contain this stuff it's always the same handful of users that complain about this kind of stuff. Either the lack off or how it's done.
- That's a point. The lewd stuff sucks, to be honest, the locker room scene between Bella and Nika in SG was - for me - way more arousing than the h-stuff from WIAB.
- Jumping back to the IC staff are now?

help me..



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Remove outdated bullshit patch, and if you try to load a save from the previous version of the game created with the bullshit patch - start a new playthrough without bullshit patch.
Bullshit patch is done for...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

THERE ARE FUCKING 4 OF THEM ALREADY?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
oh my gewd lawd.

They are the same 2 but longer and uncensored XD

 

[uym]

Made me think of Sancho actually because I don't see how I'm gonna get through this without some whisky

Raise a glass! May he code in peace wherever he is

+1 to that.

Not sure what has been posted since but I tried his removal mod and it did not work so a start from the beginning coming up (think this will be my third tennis ball v spider as I did a previous restart).

 

[mommysboiii]

i see cause i had a save for when i had to make the decision if to let her get touched and it gave me an error,but i'll try to start again and i'll see... i see so zero content for the Ntr path in this update?

Maybe a problem with save or patch?


There is some leia thing and miru mentioning things no

You have to remember miru loves mc and is not some cheap slut that just jumps on a cock ( maybe she will be when our princess leia is done with her)

Also other woman dont even have a relationship until know with mc

 

[Mortarion]

 

[mommysboiii]

Ocean is basically the Zack Snyder of AVNs. All style no substance. Literally remove the good renders and we get a below mediocre writing and ambitious yet try hard plot.

Dude you guys need to tell me what games you are all playing because I would love a game in qualitie of WiaB, with ntr elements/real antagonist , and slow burn story

Again I would instantly play it so only games that comes to my mind is our red string by evakiss that is more adult like

Man...what can i say.....after playing this Update...Feeling disappointed might be an massive understatement. This Game strong suit are definitive the Characters. I mean...there isn t any women who i wouldn t wanna bang...All of the Girls are simply stunning and breathtaking and Oceans Render Quality is out of this World....BUT....after 7 (SEVEN!!!!) fucking years of development....i expect a fully fleshed out Game with Tons of Dialogue and TONS (yeah right..TONS) of "sexy Time"! This whole Game feels like a 1930`s Mobster Movie..parked in the Present....and thats it. They are talking and talking and talking....and then at some point...a little teasing and you are thiinking to yourself, yeah man that it..he s finally getting some prime pussy...but oh well oh well...a little groping here and there...and...that it. Nothing happens. EVER! What is wrong with the MC?? He could drown in pussy and all he did was to cop a feel here and there?? Please Ocean...tell us...is the MC secretly gay?? I don t get it. What is this Game in reality??? Cut out the few very boring Sex Scene with Miru and you have a average Mobsters Movie...ready to stream it on Netflix. Mirus fucking aside...i have seen Sitcoms with more naked Skin in it than this one has. I am going to retire from work in about thirty-something years....maybe...just maybe...there will be a Sex Scene with another Girl in it..(and i am NOT talking about Miru). I have no idea what Ocean’s goal is with this game, but if he doesn’t start delivering (like REALLY soon), this game is dead. Just my opinion. Talking to all these girls is fine and all… building a relationship is also fine and all… but at SOME point, I’d like a little reward, you know? Throw me a bone here!



In conclusion this Game needs ASAP :



1. MUCH less talking

2. MUCH less teasing (unless it leads to something more right away)

3. MORE SEX (Yes...i mean it this way...its a porn Game fgs)

Again you guys seriously need to tell me what games you are all playing because the only game I know that I would rank on same qualitie with same criteria is our red string

 

[Mortarion]

Dude you guys need to tell me what games you are all playing because I would love a game in qualitie of WiaB, with ntr elements/antagonist , and slow burn story

Again I would instantly play it so only games that comes to my mind is our red string by evakiss that is more adult like

They can't because complaining about shit is way more entertaining ...