MrFriendly

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The catch is that it seem the MC's arrival is what finally pushed Debbie to DO something about her long simmering crush. Now that Debbie is in motion, the MC walking away won't defuse things. The last chance to defuse things was when Katie requested the beach house for the sleepover. Pulling the MC out of the picture now just makes it that much easier for Debbie to work her legendary ninja seduction skills on Lily unimpeded.

If the MC is only interested in Katie, then what happens to Debbie and Lily can be safely left off screen. But if the MC is only interested in Debbie or in Lily, ignoring the issue is a glaring omission.


I'm largely in agreement with you, but I do think there are two important things to consider here.

First, yes, a big foursome scene is clearly fan service, but not all fan service is bad. In this case, the lingering tension between the MC and Katie's posse has been going on for ages. It was going to have to be brought to a proper boil at some point and this does feel like an appropriate point.

It always sucks to see resources thrown at an option you personally have no interest in, but other people have different tastes. I mean personally, Katie falls extremely flat as a romance option so I'd rather she was sidelined to a supporting character role, but that's hardly fair to all her devout fans (who far outnumber me!). In this particular case I think the interest in the orgy more than justified the time spent on the episode.

The second issue is that, precisely because the MC has been able to fuck each of the girls solo, we eventually need some sort of reckoning to sort out where the four will stand once the MC's liaisons finally out. Given this is a porn game, a big sex scene is a better place to do that than most options.

Unfortunately, it sounds like Episode 19 has not worked out all the resolutions yet, at least for certain paths. The MC has very limited options to prevent Debbie from getting with Lily, and a lot of those efforts are presented in very poor light. On top of that, the episode ends before we actually learn where everyone stands the next day.

That is a serious problem that does undercut the time and effort spent on the blockbuster. I understand the devs faced real world hurdles and didn't want to stonewall the large majority of the fanbase who weren't going to see the missing branches in the first place, but I think it was a mistake to release the episode in this state. At the very least, put some sort of place-holder dialog explaining that a given version of the scene isn't finished yet rather than figuratively cutting to black and assuming we'll work out why our initial fears might not be justified.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the majority of the fan getting a big, fun payoff for a long running sub-plot. But at the same time, I wish it hadn't treated the minority that opted out of that payoff as a literal afterthought. I know it was never intended that way, but it's hard not to feel that way when we get a high-stakes cliffhanger and everyone else goe home satisfied (or never came to the theater at all). We can't read the devs' minds, after all.
See, this is why I shouldn't post before my second cup of coffee (or I should stop using Kahlua as my creamer)... You've described it all far better than I was able to muster.

In all honesty this is one game I would prefer was on a longer development cycle, I know some people will hate me for saying that but the turnaround that they have decided on feels too short to allow for a fully fleshed out and working update. I always want more content than less just as long as I am not waiting 6 months or more for it.
 

Boracle

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I really don't like how Katie looks like now. I dunno, she's just ugly for some reason.
I know what you mean. Her proportions are somehow messed up, although they are supposed to be exactly the same, somehow she is different. Even the very thing that captivated me in her at the beginning, her eyes (and i really mean actual eyes) aren't the same. The look she has now is different than before. But... well... had no choice and got used to it.
 

albul

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Can you really avoid being in the threesome - and keep your romance interest out as well?
Yes, you can. You can leave the house (or get thrown out if you sabotage Debbie's confession) before the 3/4some happens, and as per one of the devs words, nothings happens between them, and your route should remain valid. Or if you are just soloing Katie, you can leave Debbie and Lily alone to go at it, and Katie will come with you to your room. But in all of these options, the MC gets no lewd scenes at the beach house with either of the 3. The main purpose of the beach house event is for the 3/4some sex.
 

MrFriendly

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Yes, you can. You can leave the house (or get thrown out if you sabotage Debbie's confession) before the 3/4some happens, and as per one of the devs words, nothings happens between them, and your route should remain valid. Or if you are just soloing Katie, you can leave Debbie and Lily alone to go at it, and Katie will come with you to your room. But in all of these options, the MC gets no lewd scenes at the beach house with either of the 3. The main purpose of the beach house event is for the 3/4some sex.
So there's no alone time fuck with Katie if the MC chooses not to fuck all of them? Man... :rolleyes:
 

Fitret

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The catch is that it seems the MC's arrival is what finally pushed Debbie to DO something about her long simmering crush. Now that Debbie is in motion, the MC walking away won't defuse things. The last chance to defuse things was when Katie requested the beach house for the sleepover. Pulling the MC out of the picture now just makes it that much easier for Debbie to work her legendary ninja seduction skills on Lily unimpeded.

If the MC is only interested in Katie, then what happens to Debbie and Lily can be safely left off screen. But if the MC is only interested in Debbie or in Lily, ignoring the issue is a glaring omission.


I'm largely in agreement with you, but I do think there are two important things to consider here.

First, yes, a big foursome scene is clearly fan service, but not all fan service is bad. In this case, the lingering tension between the MC and Katie's posse has been going on for ages. It was going to have to be brought to a proper boil at some point and this does feel like an appropriate point.

It always sucks to see resources thrown at an option you personally have no interest in, but other people have different tastes. I mean personally, Katie falls extremely flat as a romance option so I'd rather she was sidelined to a supporting character role, but that's hardly fair to all her devout fans (who far outnumber me!). In this particular case I think the interest in the orgy more than justified the time spent on the episode.

The second issue is that, precisely because the MC has been able to fuck each of the girls solo, we eventually need some sort of reckoning to sort out where the four will stand once the MC's liaisons finally out. Given this is a porn game, a big sex scene is a better place to do that than most options.

Unfortunately, it sounds like Episode 19 has not worked out all the resolutions yet, at least for certain paths. The MC has very limited options to prevent Debbie from getting with Lily, and a lot of those efforts are presented in very poor light. On top of that, the episode ends before we actually learn where everyone stands the next day.

That is a serious problem that does undercut the time and effort spent on the blockbuster. I understand the devs faced real world hurdles and didn't want to stonewall the large majority of the fanbase who weren't going to see the missing branches in the first place, but I think it was a mistake to release the episode in this state. At the very least, put some sort of place-holder dialog explaining that a given version of the scene isn't finished yet rather than figuratively cutting to black and assuming we'll work out why our initial fears might not be justified.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the majority of the fan getting a big, fun payoff for a long running sub-plot. But at the same time, I wish it hadn't treated the minority that opted out of that payoff as a literal afterthought. I know it was never intended that way, but it's hard not to feel that way when we get a high-stakes cliffhanger and everyone else goes home satisfied (or never came to the theater at all). We can't read the devs' minds, after all.
Your ideas are very precious, my dear friend. However, Developers also need to be understood. I think the fans don't know what they want. Establishing a person and also in such a risky sector (All your efforts can be garbage at any time.). It is a very, very difficult task to put this fiction into the game. Congratulations to the developers for bringing us such a great fiction and such hot characters. Have fun.
 

acewinz

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I am have a problem going past episode 14 it has an error and then you have to just end the game
I suspect it is a mod issue, but if not using mods I'd need more info, a traceback, etc.
 

BGRW2020

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You know - one inconsistency is Kate is supposed to be a virgin, then why is it so easy to have that first sex with her without her showing any pain?
 

BGRW2020

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Your ideas are very precious, my dear friend. However, Developers also need to be understood. I think the fans don't know what they want. Establishing a person and also in such a risky sector (All your efforts can be garbage at any time.). It is a very, very difficult task to put this fiction into the game. Congratulations to the developers for bringing us such a great fiction and such hot characters. Have fun.
That maybe true but these stories should reflect what any user wants at least as an option - The MC should not be forced to have sex with someone he / she doesn't want @ ant time
 
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acewinz

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That maybe true but these stories should reflect what any user wants at least as an option - The MC should not be forced to have sex with someone he / she doesn't want @ ant time
Forced sex never happens. Sometimes you have to spend time with characters for plot related reasons, and some of the more sexually aggressive characters may sneak a kiss or try to seduce you or coerce you and vice versa, but you never get raped. :p
 

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That maybe true but these stories should reflect what any user wants at least as an option - The MC should not be forced to have sex with someone he / she doesn't want @ ant time
Yeah the forced to watch bit was a glitch that has already been fixed, only crime is your options for dealing with the situations but there is no forced sexual content.
 
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