VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Ranting Old Man]

I don’t understand the fuss. Do we know that doing the *spoiler* locks you out of the lily solo path/ending? The game has a bunch more episodes to go and resolve these supposed issues guys. I don’t think one is gonna hurt.

Although credit to the devs/writers, I think this is the first VN where I’ve seen people complain about some double trouble. People really wanna marry these girls.

I mean 3 somes and harems are dime a dozen in this site, is it really that big of a surprise? Not many good stories actually allow you to focus on on a single LI without locking you out of 80% of the content. This game is the rare exception. Only now are you locked out of content and u think I understood that, this is temporarily. I hope the beach house will, once finished include 4 solo paths as well as the 3 some and 4 some, if not yeah it kinda changes character dynamics alot and that previous build up feels wasted but your right, there is more to come and hopefully alot of it gets sorted out. It's a complex game, I don't envy the Devs but they do, do fine work.

 

[Carpe Stultus]

"Not trying to be a jerk", but kicks out 3 drunk girls. lol Sorry, but that made me laugh. I knew things would get tricky when we started having group activities and you can't please everybody unfortunately. But I relay all the good and bad I see to CG and it is primarily his scene so we'll just have to see how things play out.

Yeah you will never be able to please the typical people who complain about everything that isn't MC + LI xyz only. Some people are incredible "sensitive" (feel free to swap sensitive with any other word you like) when it comes to stuff like that. I mean which completly normal person would complain to see some action with each other that leads to a foursome?

A lot of the people who are complaining probably never read the story properly because otherwhise they would've known that Debbie is in love with Lily, the hints were more than obvious.

I'd suggest you keep doing what you do and simply ignore the people who won't read and complain about everything.

 

[Ranting Old Man]

Wait, so the girls drink your booze and "if you are on solo path and blow lid off it" they cuss you out and kick you out of your beach house and that is fine with you? I have paid a taxi to come pick a few up from my place after being asses and blaming me for stuff, the next day they said sorry because they were in the wrong and we are still friends today. I know Katie attitude it won't fly but that is why I don't chase her ever. All I'm saying is they have houses all so and they are the ones causing the problems. Also mc has a beach house time to move out anyway!

And Katie tells you your girlfriend can make her own choice and you get no say in it. Hope we get to be a dick to Katie after this at a minimum.

 

[cakeny]

Hehe. I knew this would come up with the beta. Commented on it here.
https://f95zone.to/threads/where-the-heart-is-ep-19-beta-cheekygimp.10549/page-967#post-4725697

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It's our house, why can't we just say no and never let it even start in first place?

 

[NateGrey]

Sooo... when confronted with a possible foursome, there are actually people who would want to go Cartman on it?

 

[cakeny]

"Not trying to be a jerk", but kicks out 3 drunk girls. lol Sorry, but that made me laugh. I knew things would get tricky when we started having group activities and you can't please everybody unfortunately. But I relay all the good and bad I see to CG and it is primarily his scene so we'll just have to see how things play out.

Screw the girls, doesn't matter if they are drunk or not, noone kicks me out of my house.

 

[cakeny]

Debbie makes it clear from day 1 he's in love with Lily.

Debbie plans for a couple of weeks how to tell her and mentions it to the MC numerous times.

Very strong not subtle at all hints a threesome with Deb, Lil and Katie was going to happen soon.

Event happens.

Some people seem shocked.

I have to assume it's shock because not a single one of you have complained about this in the veru obvious build up to this happening.

In fact we have page after page of people asking for it.

One person even stretches it into the realm of the ludicrous and mentions NTR .... for a 3some. Pretty sure that's never been in the description of NTR and I do so wish people would stop using those 3 letters so very wrongly.

Problem is we were never given a choice in the matter.

 

[Rimmer]

Spoiler: EP19+ spoils

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This is my problem with multiple path games, I get there has to be some forced story, but that shouldn't force characters on to you, I am in negative stats with Bella, I really don't like her, to have her call up and me tell her no, then to be still forced into meeting her, her entering your house without permission, with the key she says Elaine told her about, even though she stated before that Elaine wouldn't let her use the beach house, why would she tell her about the key then?......hmmm dodgy......or is that the real reason for her still turning up, to give us a clue that she's super suspect?

If having to go with Bella for lunch is because you need to end up at Elaine's, then why not have Elaine call you up asking to see you?

 

[oste22]

When can we expect the full version ?

 

[Rinbael]

or is that the real reason for her still turning up, to give us a clue that she's super suspect?

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[xsssssssss]

I'm not playing Ep 19 until the final release is ready and I've only been skimming through the last few pages, but this seems odd to me.

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Again, if I'm worrying about something that's already been addressed, I'll be happy to eat my ignorant words.

Like you i’ll Wait for final version but as currently described it doesn’t feel very good

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[Hammerhiem]

Sooo... when confronted with a possible foursome, there are actually people who would want to go Cartman on it?

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That would entirely depend on the foursome and Consequences.

That foursome and those consequences, err no. But in RL there are definitely situations where that's a flat no. I've turned down a threesome because if it had ever come to light, relationships of people I care about would have been ruined. Probably my only ever chance, but i live in hope.

 

[Hammerhiem]

Problem is we were never given a choice in the matter.

Yes you were, many of them.

Unless you mean just hooking up with Lily, in which case Bros, before hoes works both ways.

 

[ename144]

If you really want to know since you are conjecturing.

Spoiler: EP19 Spoils

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Spoiler: Still Confused, Sorry

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The main issue with trying to talk to her is all 3 of them are drunk.

I don't know about you but it's impossible to have a serious conversation with me when i'm drunk.

I've never been drunk enough to put it to the test. That said, I don't think it really addresses my concern.

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[Calyps0]

Wow cannot wait for someone to share the mac link. This game is a fav!!!

 

[NateGrey]

That would entirely depend on the foursome and Consequences.

That foursome and those consequences, err no. But in RL there are definitely situations where that's a flat no. I've turned down a threesome because if it had ever come to light, relationships of people I care about would have been ruined. Probably my only ever chance, but i live in hope.

I totally understand and agree that IRL those things would need a bit more consideration. But getting the chance to see that unfold in a game, in a fantasy, and then complaining because you want to stay true and exclusive with your one love, kinda baffles me personally. But then there's also people who when playing a video game choose to play The Sims, where you have to go to work, do the dishes, clean the house, etc. so each to their own I guess

 

[Tyrav]

So if I kiss your girlfriend in front of you and start rubbing her virgina in front of you and she kisses me back and doesn't stop me after you clearly made it clear that you weren't okay with it, that isn't cheating?

I know people are having a hard time with this, but that is exactly how the scene played out for many of us.


BTW it is fixed now thanks again acewinz

you might want to remove the r lol. For I think you meant Vagina not Virgina lol

 

[lordofhirunds]

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

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  File "renpy/common/000window.rpy", line 60, in _window_show
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IOError: Couldn't find file 'E19/E19SW_WBA00.jpg'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

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IOError: Couldn't find file 'E19/E19SW_WBA00.jpg'.

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
Where The Heart Is Ep19Beta1
Mon Dec 14 16:42:29 2020

AFTER lap dance and during anal fuck with Wanda.
Great update this time, many sex scenes with Lily and Debbie exciting the encounter with Elaine great renders. Thanks Gimp Ace CellFantastic Trio like fantastic the novel game WTHI

 

[Helpme2001]

how can i install e19 can someone say that to me?

 

[Ranting Old Man]

To me, like others it just felt too forced. You are forced to be a dick in order to keep Lily, you can't have a solo relationship with Lily and a friendship with Debbie in tact. Actions have consequences, I get Debbie being pissed at you if you interrupt, but why do you have to Sabotage? Why can't a lily pure path turn her down completely all on her own? Why do you have to interject? Why if you don't interject are you okay with being so casually tossed to the side?

The answer is simple and was said many times. This update was fan service. It was ment for 3 some and 4 some paths. If you want to keep your relationships in tact you just gotta leave first chance you get. According to Dev this prevents anything else from happening with the exception of Debbie confessing her feelings to Lily, what impact that will have? Who knows really.

So does it make sense that nothing else happens if you leave? Well I'm going to go out of my way and look at it from another perspective. Yes and No.

No because if your present they are all but ready to jump each others bones and have that first experience.

Yes because you are kind of what holds the whole thing together. Is Debbie as Exciting to Lily when you aren't there? Will you not being there changes the mood, all of these girls do look up to you and enjoy your company and Debbie. Would Lily even allow things to progress with Debbie without considering how you feel first? Again I really don't think so.

So I can see how MC leaving ruins the mood for the girls. So how about the players perspective?
There are plenty of people who don't care, they made that very clear. It's game your a baby blah blah blah. But some of us do care and from where it stands this entire Scene is good. IF you are going for a Katie path,, a Debbie, Lily and Katie path, or if you are going for a Debbie, Lily path, but this scene isn't good for anyone who wants to go a Lily solo path or a Debbie Solo path.

Now to be fair, the Devs did say that they have only really worked on the sharing scenes and mentioned that the rest are still a work in progress. This is a Beta after all and they are kind of testing the waters. Seeing what works and what doesn't. I really don't believe we came all of this way just to end things badly. Truth is Ace has said several times there will be solo endings for everyone in this group. He also said that the Solo paths are a work in progress, as in some changes might actually happen to some of the current scenes. We might be given more options or things might change from how they are now currently. It isn't done yet. This is a great game so while I'm disappointed in how this beta version has turned out, I understand that it isn't the completed project and my tastes where not the focus of this update, this update was focused on people who wanted Katie and friends sharing paths, not solo paths.

So the last bit I think is worth mentioning is again focusing on some of the players perspective. I think it's the anxiety of the update ending where it does the next day without a bit of closure. People who wanted 2 or 3 girls know where their relationships stand. However if you were pursuing Debbie or Lily you aren't really sure where things stand and as it is currently unless it gets mentioned later that this is changing, we won't get that closure until episode 20, a cliffhanger for a small part of the audience that doesn't really exist for everyone else. Lastly to everyone who is saying "you get a 3 some or a 4 some, quit complaining" you clearly don't understand that not everyone wanted to go that path. Or that are saying "Debbie has been telling you that she's interested in Lily this whole time why are you surprised?" Again you lack understanding or reading comprehension pick one of your liking. We aren't surprised and frankly on my other playthroughs I don't even care and support the entire thing. What bothers me is you can stop it one of two ways, by being a dick or leaving right away, yet we have no idea what the consequences of either of those actions are. Everyone else knows you wake up in a bed with 3 women relationships in tact or on a floor with 2 girls on a coach. You have a very good idea that you can be with Lily and Debbie at the same time. We have no clue what impacts our choices had if we wanted to so Lily or Debbie. That's a large part of the issue that is bothering some people.