VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Rimmer]

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This is my problem with multiple path games, I get there has to be some forced story, but that shouldn't force characters on to you, I am in negative stats with Bella, I really don't like her, to have her call up and me tell her no, then to be still forced into meeting her, her entering your house without permission, with the key she says Elaine told her about, even though she stated before that Elaine wouldn't let her use the beach house, why would she tell her about the key then?......hmmm dodgy......or is that the real reason for her still turning up, to give us a clue that she's super suspect?

If having to go with Bella for lunch is because you need to end up at Elaine's, then why not have Elaine call you up asking to see you?

 

[oste22]

When can we expect the full version ?

 

[Rinbael]

or is that the real reason for her still turning up, to give us a clue that she's super suspect?

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[xsssssssss]

I'm not playing Ep 19 until the final release is ready and I've only been skimming through the last few pages, but this seems odd to me.

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Again, if I'm worrying about something that's already been addressed, I'll be happy to eat my ignorant words.

Like you i’ll Wait for final version but as currently described it doesn’t feel very good

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[Hammerhiem]

Sooo... when confronted with a possible foursome, there are actually people who would want to go Cartman on it?

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That would entirely depend on the foursome and Consequences.

That foursome and those consequences, err no. But in RL there are definitely situations where that's a flat no. I've turned down a threesome because if it had ever come to light, relationships of people I care about would have been ruined. Probably my only ever chance, but i live in hope.

 

[Hammerhiem]

Problem is we were never given a choice in the matter.

Yes you were, many of them.

Unless you mean just hooking up with Lily, in which case Bros, before hoes works both ways.

 

[ename144]

If you really want to know since you are conjecturing.

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The main issue with trying to talk to her is all 3 of them are drunk.

I don't know about you but it's impossible to have a serious conversation with me when i'm drunk.

I've never been drunk enough to put it to the test. That said, I don't think it really addresses my concern.

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[Calyps0]

Wow cannot wait for someone to share the mac link. This game is a fav!!!

 

[NateGrey]

That would entirely depend on the foursome and Consequences.

That foursome and those consequences, err no. But in RL there are definitely situations where that's a flat no. I've turned down a threesome because if it had ever come to light, relationships of people I care about would have been ruined. Probably my only ever chance, but i live in hope.

I totally understand and agree that IRL those things would need a bit more consideration. But getting the chance to see that unfold in a game, in a fantasy, and then complaining because you want to stay true and exclusive with your one love, kinda baffles me personally. But then there's also people who when playing a video game choose to play The Sims, where you have to go to work, do the dishes, clean the house, etc. so each to their own I guess

 

[Tyrav]

So if I kiss your girlfriend in front of you and start rubbing her virgina in front of you and she kisses me back and doesn't stop me after you clearly made it clear that you weren't okay with it, that isn't cheating?

I know people are having a hard time with this, but that is exactly how the scene played out for many of us.


BTW it is fixed now thanks again acewinz

you might want to remove the r lol. For I think you meant Vagina not Virgina lol

 

[lordofhirunds]

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

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    W "Oh Hell!  ***Straining***  I can feel you in my stomach!"
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    _window_show()
  File "renpy/common/000window.rpy", line 60, in _window_show
    renpy.with_statement(trans)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'E19/E19SW_WBA00.jpg'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

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  File "renpy/common/000window.rpy", line 98, in _window_auto_callback
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  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
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  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
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  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
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  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
    cpdef render(d, object widtho, object heighto, double st, double at):
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
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  File "L:\F95 GMS\W\WhereTheHeartIs-Ep19 (Beta)-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
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  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 166, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:4075)
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  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
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  File "accelerator.pyx", line 110, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
  File "renpy/display/render.pyx", line 259, in renpy.display.render.render (gen\renpy.display.render.c:3520)
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IOError: Couldn't find file 'E19/E19SW_WBA00.jpg'.

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
Where The Heart Is Ep19Beta1
Mon Dec 14 16:42:29 2020

AFTER lap dance and during anal fuck with Wanda.
Great update this time, many sex scenes with Lily and Debbie exciting the encounter with Elaine great renders. Thanks Gimp Ace CellFantastic Trio like fantastic the novel game WTHI

 

[Helpme2001]

how can i install e19 can someone say that to me?

 

[Ranting Old Man]

To me, like others it just felt too forced. You are forced to be a dick in order to keep Lily, you can't have a solo relationship with Lily and a friendship with Debbie in tact. Actions have consequences, I get Debbie being pissed at you if you interrupt, but why do you have to Sabotage? Why can't a lily pure path turn her down completely all on her own? Why do you have to interject? Why if you don't interject are you okay with being so casually tossed to the side?

The answer is simple and was said many times. This update was fan service. It was ment for 3 some and 4 some paths. If you want to keep your relationships in tact you just gotta leave first chance you get. According to Dev this prevents anything else from happening with the exception of Debbie confessing her feelings to Lily, what impact that will have? Who knows really.

So does it make sense that nothing else happens if you leave? Well I'm going to go out of my way and look at it from another perspective. Yes and No.

No because if your present they are all but ready to jump each others bones and have that first experience.

Yes because you are kind of what holds the whole thing together. Is Debbie as Exciting to Lily when you aren't there? Will you not being there changes the mood, all of these girls do look up to you and enjoy your company and Debbie. Would Lily even allow things to progress with Debbie without considering how you feel first? Again I really don't think so.

So I can see how MC leaving ruins the mood for the girls. So how about the players perspective?
There are plenty of people who don't care, they made that very clear. It's game your a baby blah blah blah. But some of us do care and from where it stands this entire Scene is good. IF you are going for a Katie path,, a Debbie, Lily and Katie path, or if you are going for a Debbie, Lily path, but this scene isn't good for anyone who wants to go a Lily solo path or a Debbie Solo path.

Now to be fair, the Devs did say that they have only really worked on the sharing scenes and mentioned that the rest are still a work in progress. This is a Beta after all and they are kind of testing the waters. Seeing what works and what doesn't. I really don't believe we came all of this way just to end things badly. Truth is Ace has said several times there will be solo endings for everyone in this group. He also said that the Solo paths are a work in progress, as in some changes might actually happen to some of the current scenes. We might be given more options or things might change from how they are now currently. It isn't done yet. This is a great game so while I'm disappointed in how this beta version has turned out, I understand that it isn't the completed project and my tastes where not the focus of this update, this update was focused on people who wanted Katie and friends sharing paths, not solo paths.

So the last bit I think is worth mentioning is again focusing on some of the players perspective. I think it's the anxiety of the update ending where it does the next day without a bit of closure. People who wanted 2 or 3 girls know where their relationships stand. However if you were pursuing Debbie or Lily you aren't really sure where things stand and as it is currently unless it gets mentioned later that this is changing, we won't get that closure until episode 20, a cliffhanger for a small part of the audience that doesn't really exist for everyone else. Lastly to everyone who is saying "you get a 3 some or a 4 some, quit complaining" you clearly don't understand that not everyone wanted to go that path. Or that are saying "Debbie has been telling you that she's interested in Lily this whole time why are you surprised?" Again you lack understanding or reading comprehension pick one of your liking. We aren't surprised and frankly on my other playthroughs I don't even care and support the entire thing. What bothers me is you can stop it one of two ways, by being a dick or leaving right away, yet we have no idea what the consequences of either of those actions are. Everyone else knows you wake up in a bed with 3 women relationships in tact or on a floor with 2 girls on a coach. You have a very good idea that you can be with Lily and Debbie at the same time. We have no clue what impacts our choices had if we wanted to so Lily or Debbie. That's a large part of the issue that is bothering some people.

 

[lightpower]

changelog? ty

 

[Draon79]

Wait, so the girls drink your booze and "if you are on solo path and blow lid off it" they cuss you out and kick you out of your beach house and that is fine with you? I have paid a taxi to come pick a few up from my place after being asses and blaming me for stuff, the next day they said sorry because they were in the wrong and we are still friends today. I know Katie attitude it won't fly but that is why I don't chase her ever. All I'm saying is they have houses all so and they are the ones causing the problems. Also mc has a beach house time to move out anyway!

Sometimes you have to be the bigger man in that kind of situation to save relationships, regardless of who's path you are on in this situation sending them all away drunk at night even in a cab would hurt any relationship.

 

[MrFriendly]

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Really? I’d be fine with all of them getting down and dirty on my Monica only playthrough. If I’m not involved with any of them then they should be fucking without my MC there. I hope that those of us playing solo LI routes don’t have to sit and watch three women fuck each other for it to happen.

This is the reason I chose to skip this update, too much focus on one scene that some of us don’t care about - three LI out of 12 (?) taking up an entire update with a single sex scene. Just frustrating...

 

[Helpme2001]

is there a way that i can install e19 if someone can help me it would be a big help and thx in advance

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

Really? I’d be fine with all of them getting down and dirty on my Monica only playthrough. If I’m not involved with any of them then they should be fucking without my MC there. I hope that those of us playing solo LI routes don’t have to sit and watch three women fuck each other for it to happen.

Nah, I doubt it. You have to be on the Katie route to get her interested in anything lesbian related. If you are not interested in any of those 3 I don't think you'll be forced into something once 19 is fully finished. You may still be able to help Debbie get with Lily if you are ok with that but I doubt in that scenario they'd put on a show for you, especially if you haven't been pursuing any of them.

 

[MrFriendly]

Nah, I doubt it. You have to be on the Katie route to get her interested in anything lesbian related. If you are not interested in any of those 3 I don't think you'll be forced into something once 19 is fully finished. You may still be able to help Debbie get with Lily if you are ok with that but I doubt in that scenario they'd put on a show for you, especially if you haven't been pursuing any of them.

Just weird to think that three people won't be sexual together unless the MC is there. Sex should happen without the MC being present. Katie could decide to experiment with her two best friends, a little alcohol, naked hotness, and a completely private beach house can lead to a lot of things.

I want Debbie and Lily to be happy together but I don't feel that the MC should be required to participate for the two of them to get together.

Overall just unhappy to see an update devoted to one scene that, it seems, many people aren't thrilled with due to how it is handled. Of course it is a beta so it can be changed. For me I think it is a waste of an update to have this 1 giant sex scene.

 

[ename144]

I totally understand and agree that IRL those things would need a bit more consideration. But getting the chance to see that unfold in a game, in a fantasy, and then complaining because you want to stay true and exclusive with your one love, kinda baffles me personally. But then there's also people who when playing a video game choose to play The Sims, where you have to go to work, do the dishes, clean the house, etc. so each to their own I guess

I think the problem comes down to expectations. We specifically get the chance to express interest in the girls individually, so we assume those choices can matter for those of us who like monogamy. Likewise, we get no option to just flat refuse to invite all three girls to the house, so we assume that the game isn't going to exploit that forced choice to impose an unwanted group encounter on us.

That was certainly my expectation, anyway. I figured the sleepover would just be short and anti-climactic (pun not intended) if we picked only one girl and no sharing. The MC would express his concerns when the time came and (depending on his choices) either his relationship would break up or the Debbie/Lily pairing would never happen and everyone would move on as best they could (with an appropriate level of fallout).

It never occurred to me that preventing unwanted group sex would be so convoluted, or that the fallout to the rejection would not be addressed within the episode. Given that the next episode sounds like it's focused elsewhere, we may not get the resolution for a while. I fear leaving all these wounds to fester that way would be an extremely bad idea.

In other (better) words...

To me, like others it just felt too forced. You are forced to be a dick in order to keep Lily, you can't have a solo relationship with Lily and a friendship with Debbie in tact. Actions have consequences, I get Debbie being pissed at you if you interrupt, but why do you have to Sabotage? Why can't a lily pure path turn her down completely all on her own? Why do you have to interject? Why if you don't interject are you okay with being so casually tossed to the side?

The answer is simple and was said many times. This update was fan service. It was ment for 3 some and 4 some paths. If you want to keep your relationships in tact you just gotta leave first chance you get. According to Dev this prevents anything else from happening with the exception of Debbie confessing her feelings to Lily, what impact that will have? Who knows really.

So does it make sense that nothing else happens if you leave? Well I'm going to go out of my way and look at it from another perspective. Yes and No.

No because if your present they are all but ready to jump each others bones and have that first experience.

Yes because you are kind of what holds the whole thing together. Is Debbie as Exciting to Lily when you aren't there? Will you not being there changes the mood, all of these girls do look up to you and enjoy your company and Debbie. Would Lily even allow things to progress with Debbie without considering how you feel first? Again I really don't think so.

So I can see how MC leaving ruins the mood for the girls. So how about the players perspective?
There are plenty of people who don't care, they made that very clear. It's game your a baby blah blah blah. But some of us do care and from where it stands this entire Scene is good. IF you are going for a Katie path,, a Debbie, Lily and Katie path, or if you are going for a Debbie, Lily path, but this scene isn't good for anyone who wants to go a Lily solo path or a Debbie Solo path.

Now to be fair, the Devs did say that they have only really worked on the sharing scenes and mentioned that the rest are still a work in progress. This is a Beta after all and they are kind of testing the waters. Seeing what works and what doesn't. I really don't believe we came all of this way just to end things badly. Truth is Ace has said several times there will be solo endings for everyone in this group. He also said that the Solo paths are a work in progress, as in some changes might actually happen to some of the current scenes. We might be given more options or things might change from how they are now currently. It isn't done yet. This is a great game so while I'm disappointed in how this beta version has turned out, I understand that it isn't the completed project and my tastes where not the focus of this update, this update was focused on people who wanted Katie and friends sharing paths, not solo paths.

So the last bit I think is worth mentioning is again focusing on some of the players perspective. I think it's the anxiety of the update ending where it does the next day without a bit of closure. People who wanted 2 or 3 girls know where their relationships stand. However if you were pursuing Debbie or Lily you aren't really sure where things stand and as it is currently unless it gets mentioned later that this is changing, we won't get that closure until episode 20, a cliffhanger for a small part of the audience that doesn't really exist for everyone else. Lastly to everyone who is saying "you get a 3 some or a 4 some, quit complaining" you clearly don't understand that not everyone wanted to go that path. Or that are saying "Debbie has been telling you that she's interested in Lily this whole time why are you surprised?" Again you lack understanding or reading comprehension pick one of your liking. We aren't surprised and frankly on my other playthroughs I don't even care and support the entire thing. What bothers me is you can stop it one of two ways, by being a dick or leaving right away, yet we have no idea what the consequences of either of those actions are. Everyone else knows you wake up in a bed with 3 women relationships in tact or on a floor with 2 girls on a coach. You have a very good idea that you can be with Lily and Debbie at the same time. We have no clue what impacts our choices had if we wanted to so Lily or Debbie. That's a large part of the issue that is bothering some people.

This.