VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Exanadae]

I think that's an oversimplification. Adult games don't always have to be about the sex, they can have good stories that go along with them and the best ones do that, they can make you actually care about the characters as more than just sex objects. They can also provide great latitude in the relationships you can have along the way and the ones you can end up with. The problem, however, is when that latitude doesn't extend as far as you thought it would and can make the eventual ending feel underwhelming and disappointing.

Kind of yes and no.

The appeal of adult games is that a well-told story can give an emotional depth to porn that makes it more engaging and satisfying. You're not just watching Daz mannequins fuck, you're watching Daz mannequins, who represent characters you're invested in, fucking, for reasons that you care about.

Except in the end it's still porn. I can't think of any game on this site so compelling that if the sex scenes were replaced with title-cards saying "and then they banged", I'd still be playing. If art is "producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power", adult games are producing works where any beauty and emotional power is fundamentally second to, and deployed in service of, the player getting their rocks off.

The story serves the needs of the sex, which is why it's jarring when, usually near the end of games, developers feel the urge to flip that relationship around the other way.

 

[MilfMaster90]

Android version?

blind idiots jeez..
https://f95zone.to/threads/where-the-heart-is-ep-20-cheekygimp.10549/post-5581992

 

[Boehser Onkel]

Elaine just went in for coffee... its a Jolina plot!

yeah - after playing again especially this part
i got :
after bella found the usb at elains pc , joline was (later)able to detect the virus/backdoor at her laptop
and even (hacked?) the cctv from other shop for that elaine footage?!
i still think the 3rd part (dizzy)is theresa (religious dominat was mentioned at a tape),
but there was a scene with lily (call her dizzy , and lily was shocked why mc would call her that)
but the mail thing is a plot from bella and joline - im sure

 

[Boehser Onkel]

I want to die

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many of us feel the same ...

 

[HSHS1111]

many of us feel the same ...

I mean, you could just take the other option. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[sKsGoWdA]

walkthrough mod?

 

[felicemastronzo]

many of us feel the same ...

I actually believe, that is, my optimistic side that never, ever gives up, that the warning refers only to a singular relationship with Lily, but that the dream may still live on


please don't wake me up in case...

 

[acewinz]

Kind of yes and no.

The appeal of adult games is that a well-told story can give an emotional depth to porn that makes it more engaging and satisfying. You're not just watching Daz mannequins fuck, you're watching Daz mannequins, who represent characters you're invested in, fucking, for reasons that you care about.

Except in the end it's still porn. I can't think of any game on this site so compelling that if the sex scenes were replaced with title-cards saying "and then they banged", I'd still be playing. If art is "producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power", adult games are producing works where any beauty and emotional power is fundamentally second to, and deployed in service of, the player getting their rocks off.

The story serves the needs of the sex, which is why it's jarring when, usually near the end of games, developers feel the urge to flip that relationship around the other way.

While I have to agree that with AVN's the target is an immersive adult experience, I don't see why you need sacrifice the story, humor, intrigue, etc for the sexual aspect. Without the story and emotional attachment we might as well just make digital porn with no real plot and if you make the story beholden to the sex you lose a degree of realism that is where a lot of the immersion comes from.

I'd also argue there are more than handful of incredible games out there with fans as interested in the plot as the sex. Devs like Perverteer with "Tales of the Unending Void", PhillyGames with "City of Broken Dreams" and "Depraved Awakening", Caribdis with "Once in a Lifetime", Drifty with "Leap of Faith", and Pink Cake and all the drama that is "Acting Lessons" and "Being a DIK". Just to name a few. I'd also like to think we can number among those with a plot that is worthy of the name.

 

[WerewolfSinX]

I think that's an oversimplification. Adult games don't always have to be about the sex, they can have good stories that go along with them and the best ones do that, they can make you actually care about the characters as more than just sex objects. They can also provide great latitude in the relationships you can have along the way and the ones you can end up with. The problem, however, is when that latitude doesn't extend as far as you thought it would and can make the eventual ending feel underwhelming and disappointing.

The way I see it, these game are, like most mediums, an escape from reality, but unlike other things like movies, console games, books, etc, there's a greater level of self-insertion where it can make the player can feel like they're living out a fantasy, and I'd be willing to bet that most players prefer games where they can have relationships with multiple women and deal with minimal consequences for it because they would if they could in real life. It doesn't always have to end in a full harem type situation, and for a cast of characters this big it would be ridiculous, but even just ending with certain pairings/groups of characters that the game seemingly teed up would be more than enough.

I agree, as you know I'm not a fan of Harems but I don't mind love triangles (as long as its ffm) and now my love triangle is gone

 

[1Teddy1]

What kind of corruption does this game have?, Is it moral degeneration were it changes how they dress and act or is just the "fast" path to getting in the women's pants with no actual change to them or their dialogue when compared to the romance?

 

[acewinz]

I agree, as you know I'm not a fan of Harems but I don't mind love triangles (as long as its ffm) and now my love triangle is gone

There are going to be more than a few multi-girl endings. But some will require some particularly skillful choices.

 

[WerewolfSinX]

There are going to be more than a few multi-girl endings. But some will require some particularly skillful choices.

I can live with that lol.

 

[btrain33]

Is this episode 20 only? Or does it cover episode 1-20? Haven't played this game in long time and want to start over from beginning.

 

[Liam the Handyman]

There are going to be more than a few multi-girl endings. But some will require some particularly skillful choices.

Combine the multi-girls ending into a all-the-girls ending? *hint hint wink wink*

 

[adasafadas]

 

[Boehser Onkel]

There are going to be more than a few multi-girl endings. But some will require some particularly skillful choices.

how?
for example : if you deny relationship with katie after beachhouse party , 3 girls are of the table at once ..
if you stay with katie - she makes clear only her and noone else
lily wants only a monogam relationship
debbie is into lily
jenna wants a monogam relationship
jenna/joline sharing ? i dont think so(still wonder about the lesbian part)
bella and joline? - not sure yet about the mail/cctv plot
monica/zarah ? - hell no
angel/wanda? - hmmm

 

[acewinz]

how?
for example : if you deny relationship with katie after beachhouse party , 3 girls are of the table at once ..
if you stay with katie - she makes clear only her and noone else
lily wants only a monogam relationship
debbie is into lily
jenna wants a monogam relationship
jenna/joline sharing ? i dont think so(still wonder about the lesbian part)
bella and who? - no clue yet

Gonna have to wait and see. But I think we discussed

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various combinations off the top of my head.

 

[Vrijgeest]

I enjoyed it. Loved the 4some and 3some. I never deny anyone. I will play it from the beginning one day.

 

[Boehser Onkel]

uhm short question
if you going with jolina to her bedroom at ep16,
theres the laptop open facing the bed - jolina ask specific for a boobjob(yeah right before the cam with that face)
are we going blackmailed later ?
and we know jenna can see it - any outcome on this?

 

[Boehser Onkel]

Gonna have to wait and see. But I think we discussed

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various combinations off the top of my head.

bleh ....
ok i trust you
anyways going to play it multiple times again if it finished
but my inner demon is raging now