VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[duningtwo]

The house and the money are 2 different parts of the inheritance. His inheritance is everything his dad left him. If she asked for the inheritance, she'd be asking for everything. If she asked for money, that wouldn't be asking for the entire inheritance..just part of it....same for the house...just part of it. But, I don't remember much about the dialogue, so I don't remember the wording. I struggle to remember yesterday haha.

important pedantry.

 

[frozenfeet]

The fragments ( and most of em coming from myself and a few others ) only mention of Jolina being either helping or being used by Bella. Jolina is because of plenty of actions from my perspective already proven not to be the GD which I have pointed out. Another reason for Jolina not being the GD is simply put, it has been made clear that the 3rd person is someone that BOTH Elaine AND MC knows, Jolina he merely met a few days ago so she falls off, that same goes for Theresa. These are not people they have known for long and nowhere has anything been pointed out that Elaine even knows Theresa so she falls off. Again the game gives you enough hints to let you know that Viper/Dizzy is ONE person. The game gives you enough hints that let you know Jolina is bisexual and also enough hints that Bella and Joline know each other. It does NOT hint that they are working together, however the game does tell you that the third will owner is cunning heartless deceitful manipulative and has plans on top of plans on top of plans. Jolina is having mental break down issues and overall a crises going on with her coffeeshop, she is in a vulnerable state by any and all means right now and the fact she likes the MC and forgives him for his actions and willing to part with a secret if she was not interrupted means she is by any and all means not the GD/Viper as that would be out of character for someone of that nature. So Jolina is either currently in a relationship with Bella and she has been hiding it from the MC and is feeling guilty about it or she has found out that Elaine and Bella are related and that she just found out that MC is in connection with her friend with benefits or gf. Jolina does not fit the category of anything that the game has hinted as being the GD/Viper. She is either in a relationship with bella or friends with benefits or both of that and is working with or being used by Bella. And I am going with the latter. You meet Jo through Jenna and you meet Theresa through Jo. So again not people either Elaine and etc know or knew before all of the will ordeal or ever. Till just recently. I already have said that Theresa falls of because of those reasons. Jolina also falls off for those reasons. Viper/GD/Dizzy is one and the SAME person not 2 not 3 not multiple..but one and the same. Again.. Most likely Jo is being used. I already pointed out in a few pages back why I personally suspect Bella and how that has not changed after I got some other info. Which in turn pointed me out to find out some things of Jolina. Jolina so far in this is innocent right now. From all the evidence that has been provided she is merely a Victim of circumstance.

Actually I read this comment and saying that Jolina isn't part of Bella's scheme could actually be wrong. Read this comment:
CheekyGimp said:
(With the exception of one or two females who are deceitful in ALL routes - but you'll need to stick around to find out who)

Notice he says one or two who are always deceitful. Yeah that is really starting me to think again that it is Bella AND Jolina and Jolina knows everything that is going on and is working with Bella to make it happen and since Bella's inheritance relies on what the MC does. I am thinking those two are going to double team the MC so they can get him to want to be with them and to leave Monica/Katie/Jenna and get his inheritance and then so will Bella and Jolina since they are probably a couple and Bella having sex with the MC (She is also probably encouraging Jolina to have sex with the MC as well) is just helping along Bella's plan to basically seduce the MC away from his family.

Bella is probably the driving force behind what is going on but that doesn't mean that Jolina isn't helping because she wants the money as well. After all she is in danger of losing her business and her home. When someone loses everything they lose it.

 

[Crippy]

She's talking about the house.

Why would she ask for his inheritance?

She wants the house.

I agree Ava...I think she is just trying to cover the "worst case scenario" bases. If she gets her portion of the money, then the house is a mute point. But if she doesn't, she wants to ensure she has a place to live. She is just playing the "heart string" card.

 

[duningtwo]

I agree Ava...I think she is just trying to cover the "worst case scenario" bases. If she gets her portion of the money, then the house is a mute point. But if she doesn't, she wants to ensure she has a place to live. She is just playing the "heart string" card.

no, she wants the house. the money is secondary, and she only wants that to use it to take care of mc in the event he doesn't get his cut. she'd like him to move back home so she can housewife for him because that's her nature and what she wants in life. the only thing suspicious about elaine is how quickly and eagerly she started feeling up his abs but then it is a porn game.

 

[Avaron1974]

The thing that some people keep overlooking with Elaine, and it's brought up in this update, is there was a time where she did mother him and love him like her own son.

She was good to him, they had family time and they started bonding well.

Then his dad stepped in and said it was a waste and made changes. She went along with it because she loved her man. I also see people saying she was abusive towards him, she wasn't. She ignored and avoided him because that's what she was told to do.

The only time we see her get short with the MC is about his stuff. She just lost the man she's been with for years, her future is uncertain and her life has been turned upside down. I think I can forgive a lapse in decency under the circumstances.

Also, we only have Bella's word she chose to bring his stuff. If she is the gold digger then for all we know Elaine could have asked her to take it over and Bella lied about it.

When the MC goes to visit Elaine and Bella is there, despite Bella saying she wants them to get along, she keeps throwing in snide remarks to remind the MC what she was like.

I give Elaine a pass because I personally haven't seen her doing anything dodgy apart from 1 photo that could have been tampered with. Several people have stated that Elaine being distant and ignorant of the MC was out of character and she was usually nice even the MC remembers the nice times they had together.

The e-mail sent to Monica was also sent to several of the MC's friends so if it was Elaine she was obviously trying to look out for him. She tried to make sure he would have somewhere to go. Even if you take the will conditions into account and her knowing there was no way to be certain Monica would take him in and he wouldn't go to one of his friends.

Ever since he found out about his conditions and having to cut Monica and her daughters from his life Elaine has tried everything to help him move out so she's obviously not setting him up there. She even looked disappointed he hadn't moved into the beach house.

There are far more plus points than minus points and I can't see her being the bad guy in all this.

End of weirdly long Elaine rant.

 

[Gold613]

I looked up the name Bella and it is of Italian/Latin origin and means beautiful. I wonder if her name is short for Belladonna which is poisonous and fits with Bella's character in this game more.

Another reason I don't think it is Elaine because that woman used the term "viper" and when I think of a snake they are quiet and sneaky and they sneak up on you and then next thing you know they sink their teeth into you. And Elaine hasn't really acted like that she was pretty up front about how she felt about the MC.

This actually does help me a lot as I have been looking in to the names of the characters and variations and same goes for the name and variations of Dizzy/Dizziness. Viper and Belladonna we are both talking about poisons and venoms, And I did check on the symptoms just now which does make sense as it tells us Dizzy by Name but not by nature, which could mean that while we know the effects of the plants and such but by nature in itself it is not itself an issue just the symptoms it causes. So yeah that does bring more suspicion to Bella, thanks you got me something I was searching for a while.

Actually I read this comment and saying that Jolina isn't part of Bella's scheme could actually be wrong. Read this comment:
CheekyGimp said:
(With the exception of one or two females who are deceitful in ALL routes - but you'll need to stick around to find out who)

Notice he says one or two who are always deceitful. Yeah that is really starting me to think again that it is Bella AND Jolina and Jolina knows everything that is going on and is working with Bella to make it happen and since Bella's inheritance relies on what the MC does. I am thinking those two are going to double team the MC so they can get him to want to be with them and to leave Monica/Katie/Jenna and get his inheritance and then so will Bella and Jolina since they are probably a couple and Bella having sex with the MC (She is also probably encouraging Jolina to have sex with the MC as well) is just helping along Bella's plan to basically seduce the MC away from his family.

Bella is probably the driving force behind what is going on but that doesn't mean that Jolina isn't helping because she wants the money as well. After all she is in danger of losing her business and her home. When someone loses everything they lose it.

This part I can understand where it comes from but it is a bit far fetched, see it would mean that both Cheeky and Ace are shooting themselves in the foot however by their writing if Cheekygimp would say it is one it would confirm Bella, if he says one or two it could mean either one or 2 that is up to us to find out, Ace points out with everything everyone has some are on the right track but he does not point which camp has all the deets, so with that being said that is not the case. However even IF it is two people being deceitful does not mean that those 2 are working together. Jolina is not trying to take anyone away from their families, on the contrary if you put it all together, you will notice that Jolina actually has interest for Jenna from the get go and her interest there would go in direct conflict of wanting to separate the MC from the family. Also remember Jolina does not know the family at all they all met by coincidence. Jenna is the cause of meeting Jolina, Jolina is the cause of meeting Theresa. For that planning to make it a guaranteed meeting happening as part of their plan would require Bella knowing Jenna to be a super computer tech savvy person, Bella does know absolutely nothing about Monica and her family other then who they are and what they possibly mean to the MC.

Jolina her "deceitful" part is the fact she is Bisexual and might be in a relationship with another woman or was while she was getting with the MC, that woman being Bella but taking out that factor it would mean she was in a possible relationship already before being with the MC and is now attached to the MC and actually have feelings for him that she wants something serious with them. The other thing like I said is that Bella finding out about all the situations through either confining or heard it from Jolina herself is now using Bella to further her gain. The MC has money right now, he is not rich or a millionaire by any definition but he has money. He offered her twice financial aid and a place to stay and Jolina declined both of em, Jolina is willing to go through humiliation of working and using her body for money and tips over accepting money from the MC. She is having a mental break down because her business is failing. Someone in her position who would be working for a Viper/GD and is trying to make with the money would have accepted a long ago and would have done a lot more. Jolina works on emotions and pride. She refuses help from others because she wants to not be in debt with anyone and will accept the bare minimum, and she works on emotions as she is currently vulnerable, She is stressed about her business, she is stressed of the betrayal and loss of control she feels about being hacked and spied on by Jenna and MC people she let in and trusted. Getting where I am going with this ? Jolina is not in the right state of mind to plan ANYTHING, she cannot even plan a proper fix for her own situation. However if she is in a relationship or had a friendship with Bella she has no reason to not trust Bella's judgement on certain things and if the request seems innocent enough she would not mind helping out. Does not mean she is working with anyone. She is more likely being used, As I said a victim of circumstance.

 

[WhiteyG]

You guys really make me smile (in a good way) at all the very serious thought you guys have regarding the plot. I can also say that several of you, especially put together, have all the pieces. I just hope that you still find it as interesting when things start to finally play out.

This game has been so much fun for so many reasons I can't see anyway that it won't remain that way all the way to the end. Unless Zarah comes flying in on a dragon and burns everyone to death because she couldn't get enough dick anymore. Nah that would still be interesting.

 

[Construct]

All the people having theories about who is the third person from the will and I‘m just sitting here and thinking that Debby and Lily better convince Katie to share (am I playing the wrong way or what?) or cutting of Monica, Jenna, Katie is the easiest decision ever. And if that also cuts out Debby and Lily, then my MC just becomes the manager of the next top models Cosmo Angel and Wanda.
And if that doesn‘t work out either, well... Jolina is hot and all and maybe sharing the beach house with her isn‘t too bad. Also wondering about that one girl MC met with Monica (Mabel?). Does she play any role or is she just temptation?
I count Bella out completely because after all these theories I expect her to be all like „Ha ha, sex was good, but now all your money is mine. Have a nice life“. Maybe she is open to sharing? The inheritance I mean? Either she is playing her part very well or she would actually like to ride of into the sunset with the MC. Probably only if the MC fully commits to her from the start.
I imagine the ending where the MC ends up with the money and no girls to end with a phone call to a lawyer, to setup up some weird will, just so the cycle continues

Anyway, I‘m done with the random thoughts I wanted to blurt out.

 

[felicemastronzo]

no, she wants the house. the money is secondary, and she only wants that to use it to take care of mc in the event he doesn't get his cut. she'd like him to move back home so she can housewife for him because that's her nature and what she wants in life. the only thing suspicious about elaine is how quickly and eagerly she started feeling up his abs but then it is a porn game.

the house certainly has to do with Elaine's conditions to be met for the will.

MC then the only problem he doesn't have is having a roof

 

[duningtwo]

the house certainly has to do with Elaine's conditions to be met for the will.

i didn't say it didn't. elaine states she wants the house, that it's her home, getting it either by weaseling out of her conditions via her own lawyers or by getting mc to promise to give it to her in the latest chapter if it goes to him. she also says she doesn't care about the money, but she does offer to take care of the mc with it should she get it and he not get his.

 

[felicemastronzo]

i didn't say it didn't. elaine states she wants the house, that it's her home, getting it either by weaseling out of her conditions via her own lawyers or by getting mc to promise to give it to her in the latest chapter if it goes to him. she also says she doesn't care about the money, but she does offer to take care of the mc with it should she get it and he not get his.

but if it really is linked to the will, that's why she wants to stay, all other reasons are secondary.

Then of course a nice house will come in handy in any case, of course it may also have a sentimental value (difficult to explain), but she wants it for the will, Elaine has never given up trying to get her share.

 

[duningtwo]

Elaine has never given up trying to get her share.

she only wants a share of her share (the house). she flat out told mc she won't abide by her condition of cutting ties with him, which seemingly pertains to the money portion, as your screenshot above seemingly pertains to the house portion, which has a separate condition of mc not living there by x date. elaine is the biggest red herring in a pond stocked with them, more guileless than monica.

 

[Kitchentable]

I am telling y'all, with the dev(s) saying it's not a harem game but
we got multiple threesome or possible future threesome, like
Monica and Zara, Jen and Jo, Debbie and Lilly or Angel and Wanda
there might aswell be a fire at the end and you'll only be able to safe two LIs!!



Ok, I apologize for that as some are still traumatized and I wanted to add something
on serious note.

In the japanes AVNs of old you usually could only unlock the harem ending
after having finished all the individual endings.

That would work great for WTHI in my opinon. Full fleshed out solo endings for
each for the characters. Then some threesome endings for characters like Debbi and Lilly,
or Monica and Zara, where it would make some sense and only after all of that
you could unlock a true harem ending.

And if not, well, the journey is the reward, right?

 

[draken99999]

I hope he finishes it soon, its gotten long (which is good and love the story) but have a hard time remembering it after so many months.

 

[zetsupetsu]

As someone who's on the full Elaine path and fully believe her to be genuine, I just want the opportunity for MC to say that the she can rest easy regarding the inheritance because I'd gladly leave Monica and the rest to go live with Elaine in the house and share the money with her. So she doesn't have to worry about anything and she can even not fulfill her conditions and it won't matter.

 

[felicemastronzo]

she only wants a share of her share (the house). she flat out told mc she won't abide by her condition of cutting ties with him, which seemingly pertains to the money portion, as your screenshot above seemingly pertains to the house portion, which has a separate condition of mc not living there by x date. elaine is the biggest red herring in a pond stocked with them, more guileless than monica.

Elaine has said very little that is clear, because to say at the same time that she has no intention of following the conditions, which would take her away from MC again, and that if MC should not inherit anything she will take care of giving him his share is quite contradictory.

And also when she asks him to leave her the house anyway, she is clearly referring to something she cannot tell him (Mc thinks about the conditions of the will, and I think so too, but it could be something else).

so Elaine by definition is not a red herring, she's an heiress like MC, who's working hard to get her share (following the will or not) what we don't know is if her benevolence towards him is really sincere. in my opinion there are no characters really antagonistic to MC, but it's my opinion not written in stone

then, I repeat, in Jenna's hacking we discover that the house has to do with the conditions of the will, she asks MC to have the house anyway and that she can't tell him everything, it doesn't seem to me that there is to make particularly elaborate deductions

 

[DA22]

Elaine has said very little that is clear, because to say at the same time that she has no intention of following the conditions, which would take her away from MC again, and that if MC should not inherit anything she will take care of giving him his share is quite contradictory.

And also when she asks him to leave her the house anyway, she is clearly referring to something she cannot tell him (Mc thinks about the conditions of the will, and I think so too, but it could be something else).

so Elaine by definition is not a red herring, she's an heiress like MC, who's working hard to get her share (following the will or not) what we don't know is if her benevolence towards him is really sincere. in my opinion there are no characters really antagonistic to MC, but it's my opinion not written in stone

then, I repeat, in Jenna's hacking we discover that the house has to do with the conditions of the will, she asks MC to have the house anyway and that she can't tell him everything, it doesn't seem to me that there is to make particularly elaborate deductions

Well it would take away a lot of the suspense and as such likely falls under plot armor, since devs want to keep her conditions a secret, but if she really trusted MC and would want her to make him trust her she would tell him her conditions or already told themto him even if just as an exchange of information where Mc tells her his conditions. Especially if both are aware the third person knows all conditions, that would make sense if there would be trust to diminish their own lack of information opposed to the third person.

So her not telling them him or at least offering an exchange of information, while we all understand on one hand the plot armor she is working under within game, it also does not put her in a way more trustable or trusting light when comes to MC. It at least leaves open the option she is fully prepared to fulfill her conditions of the will if she can not find a better option to get what she wants.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Well it would take away a lot of the suspense and as such likely falls under plot armor, since devs want to keep her conditions a secret, but if she really trusted MC and would want her to make him trust her she would tell him her conditions or already told them even if just as a exchange information where Mc tells her his conditions. Especially if both are aware the third person knows all conditions, that would make sense if there would be trust to diminish their own lack of information opposed to the third person.

So her not telling them him or at least offering an exchange of information while we all understand on one hand the plot armor she is working under within game it also does not put her in a way more trustable or trusting light when comes to MC.

In my opinion there are two separate aspects: the will and the relationship between the two.

Elaine may want to get her whole third of the inheritance regardless of how she feels about MC, everyone can benefit from money, and if she really wants to give a part of it to MC, in case the latter is left out of the will, she has to win it for herself first.

even if I consider her 100% sincere, the house is what she wants the most, but for sure she doesn't mind a bit of money to maintain it afterwards.

Mc doesn't reveal his conditions either, why should Elaine?

 

[DA22]

In my opinion there are two separate aspects: the will and the relationship between the two.

Elaine may want to get her whole third of the inheritance regardless of how she feels about MC, everyone can benefit from money, and if she really wants to give a part of it to MC, in case the latter is left out of the will, she has to win it for herself first.

even if I consider her 100% sincere, the house is what she wants the most, but for sure she doesn't mind a bit of money to maintain it afterwards.

Mc doesn't reveal his conditions either, why should Elaine?

Those two aspects can not be fully separated, especially if we are to believe that the turn around of Elaine was partly caused by reading that will condition and we are to assume from a remark that Elaine made that her fulfilling that condition would make MC hate her.

Considering Mc having to tell first, it was not MC that threw Elaine out of her house directly after Dad died and threatened to destroy her stuff after treating her as non-existent person for years.

A first move by Elaine would make all the sense in the world with her knowing their past and yeah that would not have to be an outright telling by her but just an offer to share their information. Even more if both now know the third party knows all conditions. Sure Mc could make that offer as well, but how many reasons does he have to truly trust Elaine, who is holding back a lot of info, amongst others what she is doing with lawyers and has only her word she is also doing it in his interest. Lack of trust of MC makes all the sense in the world.

 

[Hellkinglucifer]

Mc doesn't reveal his conditions either, why should Elaine?

It's not the MC who's been running after elaine to repair their relationship which she herself destroyed by supporting and abiding that monster he called father. What she did was vile and disgusting so why not reveal her condition as a show of faith if she really wants Mc to like her. In my opinion she is a bitch whose only here for the money(she was with the father for his money) and now the will has something to do with MC so she's being nice to him to get her money. If she can 'pretend' to be a bitch for all these years then she is clearly able to pretend to be nice.