VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[DA22]

He wasn't a child, he was a teenager. By the time his dad had stepped in to stop everything he was old enough to understand why and what was going on.

Also she did fight it, she fought it for years but didn't get anywhere.

MC is still a teenager and she fought it for years? His recollection is that he has been ignored by her for years after she was first trying to be kind to him. 12 is also still a child, even if not the same as 6 yo and her later ignoring him after first being friendly hurt likely even more for an mc that did not lose his mom long before that.

She accepted the conditions of the father for her reasons instead of walking away unless she got her way. Also she still threw him out at the first opportunity when Dad was gone. Now to me those are neither the actions of a friend to MC or a good stepmother (at the very best an indifferent one) or stepfather for that matter if she had been male and the dad a mom, not by a long shot even if cause of the dad there are extenuating circumstances.

Now I have no problems if she had a conversion after reading will and reevaluated her earlier behavior and even less with fact if she is genuine she does feel some remorse and guilt rightfully over her actions and that her earliest actions when she was friendly to MC make it possible for them to reconnect. That do not make her earlier actions right or any better, just may give hope for the future.

 

[Avaron1974]

MC is still a teenager and she fought it for years? His recollection is that he has been ignored by her for years after she was first trying to be kind to him. 12 is also still a child,

She didn't start ignoring him at 12.

IT was said this update they had family meals for a long time until his dad decided it was a waste.

His recollection is him lashing out, the game, Elaine, the dads will and Bella all state she fought him for years on how things were with his son with the dad mocking her in his will for wanting to mother him.

I'm not asking people to like Elaine but all of you "hating" on her are blaming her for stuff that never happened.

 

[hottarod]

Crazy psycho bitches, gold diggers, old horny dog women, selfish ho's, emotionally damaged and scarred. Nice cast of characters. Its a little too close to reality almost. I kept looking for the scene where I could just gag that Katie, tie her up in her closet and leave her there, LOL.

I got so aggravated that I deleted the thing but I will pick it back up, reset my strategy and make some more runs at it. It is out of my character to just give the meat to everything that spreads its legs but sometimes that is required to find out who all is who in the end. I hope there are at least a few story lines in this one that end up with people having some redeeming qualities.

 

[Machete]

I wonder if there is any safe sidefuck in the game. I mean, this game is very long and very forked, which is just great. But on the other side it makes playing it multiple times a big deal. And it gets you to a problem: If you want to play a very monogamous game, to aim for a good end, it might be boring to deal for so long with so many ladies and bang none. If you enjoy a bit of freedom, on the other end, it could be frustrating to get a bad ending. I'm not speaking of obviously incompatible relationships, like, getting serious with Monica and one of the sisters. But for istance, having occasional sex with the carnival girl or with Wanda, would it impact on the choosen route? It would be cool to know before embarking on a new run of the game.

 

[Avaron1974]

Crazy psycho bitches, gold diggers, old horny dog women, selfish ho's, emotionally damaged and scarred. Nice cast of characters. Its a little too close to reality almost. I kept looking for the scene where I could just gag that Katie, tie her up in her closet and leave her there, LOL.

Look, you are asking a lot there, there is no way that will ever happen.





I will never believe you know women irl

I wonder if there is any safe sidefuck in the game. I mean, this game is very long and very forked, which is just great. But on the other side it makes playing it multiple times a big deal. And it gets you to a problem: If you want to play a very monogamous game, to aim for a good end, it might be boring to deal for so long with so many ladies and bang none. If you enjoy a bit of freedom, on the other end, it could be frustrating to get a bad ending. I'm not speaking of obviously incompatible relationships, like, getting serious with Monica and one of the sisters. But for istance, having occasional sex with the carnival girl or with Wanda, would it impact on the choosen route? It would be cool to know before embarking on a new run of the game.

Carnival girl, Mabel I think, and Natasha are the only side fucks.

Wanda has a route.

 

[DA22]

She didn't start ignoring him at 12.

IT was said this update they had family meals for a long time until his dad decided it was a waste.

His recollection is him lashing out, the game, Elaine, the dads will and Bella all state she fought him for years on how things were with his son with the dad mocking her in his will for wanting to mother him.

I'm not asking people to like Elaine but all of you "hating" on her are blaming her for stuff that never happened.

Where is the hate? I do not think she is perfect and certainly do not think she acted perfectly in past. The ignoring was also something that had been going on for years, nor do I think she is a monster per se.

Considering fact MC does remind her of his dad in many ways I would not even be surprised if she would manage to get the whole inheritance (either in a less nice way or cause the others fail) she will be happy enough to share with MC at least a bit if genuine. (Now might I be surprised if Elaine would like the inheritance and a love relation with MC where she would have the financial upper hand so he could not treat he like his dad did (would not be so weird after her years with dad and then also finding out he cheated on her) or that she would support whatever he would want to do with his life if they end up in a more M/S relation as in a lovers relation. No.)

I also suggested in a post that was removed for whatever reason that reason why Elaine might be asking for the house is that she found out that if she had the will fought and annulled, the most likely outcome will be that MC will be the sole heir to dad's fortune (unlss there were contracts between Dad and Elaine and she can proof that that would give her rights to part inheritance) and that question means she might even be seriously contemplating doing that for him. Does that sound like I think she is for sure his enemy or a monster?

Also a suspicion I have that Elaine may well have an idea who Dizzy is when she found out at will she was cheated on by the dad(the woman that cucked her and is a danger to both her inheritance and of MC if she does care for him), since she knew dad's life better as MC. Now her talking about that to MC might be hard since it might well be that she fears that MC may think she would try to paint a rival for his affection in a bad light. On the other hand she might well have some not so nice feelings for Dizzy and if she would believe MC would take care of her somewhat, what would she be willing to give up for revenge?

 

[PipeLayer2000]

I had never done anything on the Elaine path until this update. I'm really glad I decided to give it a go, as her date night was really good. I actually liked her update the best (minus the cliffhanger, of course).

 

[MrFriendly]

He wasn't a child, he was a teenager. By the time his dad had stepped in to stop everything he was old enough to understand why and what was going on.

Also she did fight it, she fought it for years but didn't get anywhere.

Do we know the exact timing? At least I don't recall it being stated that the MC was x years old when Elaine started dating the dad and they had a good relationship for x years before Don told her to ignore/neglect the MC. It could have been years of a good relationship or months.

Where does it say she fought it? Did the MC have memories of that fact or is it something that Elaine or Bella said? Why would we trust them?

And just because he was a teenager, which is a huge range in age and maturity, doesn't mean it didn't hurt him when Elaine did begin to ignore him. Being a teenager when it happened doesn't magically make it better that she listened to the asshole and followed his orders. She's already an idiot for dating/loving Don, the fact that she loved him to the point she would completely ignore another human being...

 

[Hellkinglucifer]

Do we know the exact timing? At least I don't recall it being stated that the MC was x years old when Elaine started dating the dad and they had a good relationship for x years before Don told her to ignore/neglect the MC. It could have been years of a good relationship or months.

Where does it say she fought it? Did the MC have memories of that fact or is it something that Elaine or Bella said? Why would we trust them?

And just because he was a teenager, which is a huge range in age and maturity, doesn't mean it didn't hurt him when Elaine did begin to ignore him. Being a teenager when it happened doesn't magically make it better that she listened to the asshole and followed his orders. She's already an idiot for dating/loving Don, the fact that she loved him to the point she would completely ignore another human being...

It was never stated but kudos to them creating all sort of fake facts or arguments and twisting words to make her look good.
Apparently we should believe Bella when she says Elaine was a really nice and caring person before meeting dickface BUT we should not believe when she says elaine threw all his things out. We should also believe elaine version of what happened all those years BUT not believe the mc version(he confirmed she was a bitch right at the start of the game). Indeed we should believe everything she says as the ultimate truth.

 

[Benares]

It was never stated but kudos to them creating all sort of fake facts or arguments and twisting words to make her look good.
Apparently we should believe Bella when she says Elaine was a really nice and caring person before meeting dickface BUT we should not believe when she says elaine threw all his things out. We should also believe elaine version of what happened all those years BUT not believe the mc version(he confirmed she was a bitch right at the start of the game). Indeed we should believe everything she says as the ultimate truth.

Well it is stated that he moved to his dad when he was 11, but we don't know when the meals together stopped and when Elaine became distant (or a bitch, or whatever) to the MC. We do know that both happened around the same time.

As for dumping his belongings, Elaine pleaded guilty on their first meeting (ep 12), asking for forgiveness right away. She also phoned the MC about it before, after sending a mail (I suppose ep 4, but not sure on it)

 

[DA22]

It was never stated but kudos to them creating all sort of fake facts or arguments and twisting words to make her look good.
Apparently we should believe Bella when she says Elaine was a really nice and caring person before meeting dickface BUT we should not believe when she says elaine threw all his things out. We should also believe elaine version of what happened all those years BUT not believe the mc version(he confirmed she was a bitch right at the start of the game). Indeed we should believe everything she says as the ultimate truth.

Well my twelve was also a shot in the dark, but Dad did get MC reasonably soon after his mom died and he was not much more as max an early teen when that happened, based on some things said with Monica at carnival I even assumed slightly younger. That might be bad memory from my side though.

Also I might misremember but Elaine was either already in a relationship with dad when mom died or pretty soon after. She was around at the time of the Monica allegations the way she spoke of it not something she heard 5 years after and had a long relationship with the dad. Also with current age of MC it would not fit he was 16-18 when Elaine came into his life.

Like I said I am willing to believe that Elaine has reevaluated her life and some of her actions especially considering MC after reading the will. There are some hints for that if you take what fortune teller said as literal truth and a few more things, though there is also still not enough communication and trust between MC-Elaine. They are still rebuilding that and her behavior directly after dad died does not help with that, whether Bella told the truth bout his stuff or not. Now we do not know if someone egged her on.

It is also not impossible that Elaine is fully playing MC though and she is still a bitch for whatever reason and just playing Mc to fulfill her condition and did not convert after reading her conditions. Without knowing those conditions we also can not know whether the hints she gave about them to MC are false or not.

Now Bella and what Bella has said. Either we believe as some have interestingly made a case for that Bella may well be the number one suspect to be Dizzy and then we can not believe anything she says also not in defence or attack on Elaine, since she is working to get the whole inheritance and doing whatever it takes. Interesting enough that also means she should keep MC in contact with Monica and family. I can not really remember either Bella or Elaine doing that, besides Bella possibly bringing his stuff over nd we know Dizzy knows his condition. (Now I am somewhat suspicious maybe too many trails lead to Bella and she is a bit too obvious and do keep a few other options open for now, one that would really surprise and disappoint me and as such would make sense if devs want to be mean )

Now if Bella would be Dizzy and as I suspect that Elaine, though she has no proof, might have a strong suspicion who Dizzy is, well that could lead to some interesting fireworks and drama, whether Elaine cares for MC or not and is only cucked by her younger sister.

 

[hottarod]

This is a who is gonna done it to the MC since they haven't done it yet but it is the same principal from a writing point of view like a detective Poirot novel.

Elaine did throw the MC out of the house before his dad was even cold in his grave. She also told him his stuff was going in the trash if he didn't pick it up so she threatened it. At the same time, apparently, there was plenty of spare room in the garage to store his stuff because that is what Bella did. Can't believe anything Elaine is saying or doing or her sister Bella either for that matter. Sister comes before stud dude every time unless both sisters are fighting over how (I swear I typed WHO, ha) is going to get the stud service.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

We never said there'll only be one. We just said we don't see a realistic harem end (Harem meaning ALL women staying with MC knowing and happy to share him with ALL other women)

I suppose that if at the end there is an ending that includes all the LIs that interest me (I can't say how many there are now, but I think a few) I suppose I'll try the game again.

 

[Crippy]

The thing that some people keep overlooking with Elaine, and it's brought up in this update, is there was a time where she did mother him and love him like her own son.

She was good to him, they had family time and they started bonding well.

Then his dad stepped in and said it was a waste and made changes. She went along with it because she loved her man. I also see people saying she was abusive towards him, she wasn't. She ignored and avoided him because that's what she was told to do.

The only time we see her get short with the MC is about his stuff. She just lost the man she's been with for years, her future is uncertain and her life has been turned upside down. I think I can forgive a lapse in decency under the circumstances.

Also, we only have Bella's word she chose to bring his stuff. If she is the gold digger then for all we know Elaine could have asked her to take it over and Bella lied about it.

When the MC goes to visit Elaine and Bella is there, despite Bella saying she wants them to get along, she keeps throwing in snide remarks to remind the MC what she was like.

I give Elaine a pass because I personally haven't seen her doing anything dodgy apart from 1 photo that could have been tampered with. Several people have stated that Elaine being distant and ignorant of the MC was out of character and she was usually nice even the MC remembers the nice times they had together.

The e-mail sent to Monica was also sent to several of the MC's friends so if it was Elaine she was obviously trying to look out for him. She tried to make sure he would have somewhere to go. Even if you take the will conditions into account and her knowing there was no way to be certain Monica would take him in and he wouldn't go to one of his friends.

Ever since he found out about his conditions and having to cut Monica and her daughters from his life Elaine has tried everything to help him move out so she's obviously not setting him up there. She even looked disappointed he hadn't moved into the beach house.

There are far more plus points than minus points and I can't see her being the bad guy in all this.

End of weirdly long Elaine rant.

Ava...great synopsis and I totally agree. I would also point out that Elaine has stated several times that she would do everything she could to ensure the MC was financially taken care of and she is constantly pointing out that it is his house and asking him to move back in.

 

[BeingADikDik]

Ava...great synopsis and I totally agree. I would also point out that Elaine has stated several times that she would do everything she could to ensure the MC was financially taken care of and she is constantly pointing out that it is his house and asking him to move back in.

I'd need to replay to remind myself, but what is Elaine's exact phrasing of this sentiment? My recollection was that she said something closer to wanting to ensure that the MC 'got what he deserved', which is far more ambiguous as to intent.

 

[FookU2]

important pedantry.

Yes. Right up there with their, there, they're, too, two, to, are, argh.... lol

 

[Avaron1974]

I'd need to replay to remind myself, but what is Elaine's exact phrasing of this sentiment? My recollection was that she said something closer to wanting to ensure that the MC 'got what he deserved', which is far more ambiguous as to intent.

She said she'd always make sure he was taken care of and wouldn't leave him wanting.

 

[BeingADikDik]

She said she'd always make sure he was taken care of and wouldn't leave him wanting.

'taken care of' can certainly be taken different ways. 'leave him wanting' is somewhat less ambiguous, but it isn't a stretch to think this might mean something other than financial terms.

 

[MrFriendly]

'taken care of' can certainly be taken different ways. 'leave him wanting' is somewhat less ambiguous, but it isn't a stretch to think this might mean something other than financial terms.

And there is no reason to believe anything she says in the first place. What has she done to deserve the MC's trust? She has given the MC all the items she is required to by law - the beach house and the car were his inheritance. Sure she had the place and car cleaned. Other than that we know for a fact she has lied or hidden the truth from the MC about the email. On top of which she ignored him for years because her dear Don told her to, so why should the MC believe a thing she says?

 

[Avaron1974]

And there is no reason to believe anything she says in the first place. What has she done to deserve the MC's trust? She has given the MC all the items she is required to by law - the beach house and the car were his inheritance. Sure she had the place and car cleaned. Other than that we know for a fact she has lied or hidden the truth from the MC about the email. On top of which she ignored him for years because her dear Don told her to, so why should the MC believe a thing she says?

Why would she need to offer him anything if she was such a bitch?

If she wanted to screw him over she'd do everything she could to keep him with Monica.

Regardless of anyones thoughts about the email it got him somewhere to stay whether it was at Monica's or one of his friends. Of which we don't know anything for a fact, the only thing we have is a photo, that has passed through the hands of 2 people that know their way around computers and 1 of which knows Bella so would surely also know Elaine, which shows Elaine was there.

Now, considering Jolina would know Elaine ..... why did she not say that Elaine was there that day using the computers because she'd know.