VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[InkAndSaliva]

instead at best she can be blamed for not standing up to it, but why would she do that?

An adult living in a household with a child has a responsibility to protect and safeguard that child, full stop. You take on that duty when you become part of their family. Elaine absolutely failed the MC and is complicit in his toxic homelife.

 

[felicemastronzo]

An adult living in a household with a child has a responsibility to protect and safeguard that child, full stop. You take on that duty when you become part of their family. Elaine absolutely failed the MC and is complicit in his toxic homelife.

You make it too easy.
Elaine is not his mother, and is never part of his family, and his biological father wants him to be brought up that way. i.e. without any deprivation or physical abuse, but without cuddling, without any displays of affection.
What exactly was Elaine supposed to do? Cuddle him in order to be put through the door herself, thus leaving mc in precisely the same situation as before?

She objects to Donald's behaviour, at least that's what she says, he resists, at which point she can either accept the situation or leave. Leaving an easy life with the person she loves anyway.

 

[Harlaw]

I disagree, Elaine would be the evil stepmother if she was the architect of what happens to mc, instead at best she can be blamed for not standing up to it, but why would she do that? Why would she jeopardise her lifestyle for a stranger whose father wanted to raise like that?

You would have wanted her to sacrifice herself for a stranger, that is a heroic act, it cannot be taken for granted

On the other hand, Bella is a highly inconsistent character in her own words, trusting is completely impossible. The point is not that Bella should love Elaine as her sister, but that she herself says so and then slaughters her

She might not have been the architect, but she was complicit in the emotional and psychological manipulation of the MC, a soft form of child abuse.

Iirc the MC actually mentions that Bella used to stand up for him against Elaine when she was exceedingly harsh towards him. So it wasn't just that she was distant and aloof towards him, she actually took part in the 'toughening up' process.

So I am sorry, but if you mistreat a child just to maintain your fancy lifestyle, then yes, you are a terrible person.

Bella is two faced, that's kind of her whole character. She's not a good person, that's for sure, but exactly how bad she is will depend on her true motivations and main plan.

 

[BeingADikDik]

Sisters having sex with the same person at the same time is not incest as long as they are not performing sexual acts on each other.

In many countries, it's not considered a sexual act without genital penetration so 'lesbian incest' is not even a thing (same reason why women cannot rape men in those countries). Not that such a rule applies to Patreon censors, but perhaps might allow for an 'ask for forgiveness rather than permission' scenario whereby ignorance is plead, the canon version is 'out there', and subsequently 'corrected'.

 

[boobsrcool]

Since coochie is cooter then perhaps boobsrcool should go sexual style and choose Bella?

If it's what the people want I am okay with it

 

[Ilhares]

Not that such a rule applies to Patreon censors, but perhaps might allow for an 'ask for forgiveness rather than permission' scenario whereby ignorance is plead, the canon version is 'out there', and subsequently 'corrected'.

Except that it can also bite the dev in the ass, just ask Fetish Locator fans. They've got a little problem with the entire game's premise now putting them in the doghouse because it involves blackmail.

I'd hate to see a dev have to go through completely removing/rewriting months of prior work just to try and play nice after getting caught doing something that was against policy in the first place.

 

[Night Hacker]

I know, i know, but i really play for immersion, so i felt i had to indulge Monica with her Carnival trip. That's what a functional human being would do in the circumstance

Yeah, there is no way in hell I would deny her that trip. It takes a cold hearted person to deny her.

 

[Night Hacker]

Sisters having sex with the same person at the same time is not incest as long as they are not performing sexual acts on each other.

Yeah, perhaps that is technically true... who in the hell has sex in the same room, naked with their sibling?! I know I don't want to be in a room, naked with my brother doing the same woman... sorry, but it may not technically be incest, it would be pretty damn close to it.

 

[Ilhares]

Yeah, perhaps that is technically true... who in the hell has sex in the same room, naked with their sibling?! I know I don't want to be in a room, naked with my brother doing the same woman... sorry, but it may not technically be incest, it would be pretty damn close to it.

Agreed, would be a bit odd if my brother were there. On the flipside, my best friend? Shit, if she's not cool with him she's not the right girl for me.

 

[keefer43]

You roleplay a functional human being? That is definitely out there.

Oh, the depravity! kids close your eyes!

 

[felicemastronzo]

She might not have been the architect, but she was complicit in the emotional and psychological manipulation of the MC, a soft form of child abuse.

Iirc the MC actually mentions that Bella used to stand up for him against Elaine when she was exceedingly harsh towards him. So it wasn't just that she was distant and aloof towards him, she actually took part in the 'toughening up' process.

So I am sorry, but if you mistreat a child just to maintain your fancy lifestyle, then yes, you are a terrible person.

Bella is two faced, that's kind of her whole character. She's not a good person, that's for sure, but exactly how bad she is will depend on her true motivations and main plan.

to speak of manipulation seems to me quite exaggerated
manipulation, if anything, is getting deliberately found naked in the shower by an underage boy, which is what Bella does (ok it's a porn game..)

from what I remember Elaine's roughness toward MC was limited to getting him away from herself, no particular mistreatment or maltreatment

let's be clear though: Elaine should have realized that the one with Donald was a toxic relationship for herself before it was for MC, but asking a person in love (and Elaine was in love with Donald, she has a hard time even now badmouthing him and hearing others do it) to realize it is not that simple.

Elaine herself suffers so many limitations in her relationship with Donald, that house was not a paradise for her either

 

[BillyPlums]

I don't understand why everyone is talking about that trollop Bella and that bi-- err... witch Elaine when they could be expounding on the beauteous Monica who is the only one true Love Interest in the game. Really, just kidding guys. They're all hot, but with Monica, you get your home and your heart. All the others can give you is money.

 

[lordofhirunds]

To mistake for harem route what I had written earlier seems strange, because if such is considered then WTHI considers harem route from the beginning. Let me explain. currently MC has been with Monica, Jenna, Kate, Jolina, Elaine, Angel, Wanda, Therese, Natasha, Bella, Zara if it is not harem this how do we call it condominium? That Cheeky and Ace predicted otherwise I did not question it and indeed I said I was certainly wrong but mine was a guess of a late summer night.

 

[felicemastronzo]

To mistake for harem route what I had written earlier seems strange, because if such is considered then WTHI considers harem route from the beginning. Let me explain. currently MC has been with Monica, Jenna, Kate, Jolina, Elaine, Angel, Wanda, Therese, Natasha, Bella, Zara if it is not harem this how do we call it condominium? That Cheeky and Ace predicted otherwise I did not question it and indeed I said I was certainly wrong but mine was a guess of a late summer night.

The harem presupposes a minimum awareness of the girls, otherwise it is just cheating at Olympic levels

 

[Qmil679]

I just hope it doesn't turn out that Monica is hiding something serious that will make me (mc) hate her...

She is my #1 woman, if it turns out that she is doing something serious behind MC's back, I don't know if I want to continue playing this game. Because I have no one to play for.. Well.. maybe for Elaine. But Monica is the best.

 

[DaimonFey]

I just hope it doesn't turn out that Monica is hiding something serious that will make me (mc) hate her...

She is my #1 woman, if it turns out that she is doing something serious behind MC's back, I don't know if I want to continue playing this game. Because I have no one to play for.. Well.. maybe for Elaine. But Monica is the best.

I don't think that you have anything to worry about when it comes to Monica and her girls since Donald's lawyer hinted that they are trustworthy.

 

[Harlaw]

I don't think that you have anything to worry about when it comes to Monica and her girls since Donald's lawyer hinted that they are trustworthy.

What if the lawyer is on it with Monica and she is the Gold Digger?

Seriously though, I think Monica is legit. The only thing she could be hiding is the fact that she actually did have the hots for daddy and was together with him at some point, maybe that's why she let the MC and his mother stay with her, out of guilt.

Also, that's probably why she's so into the MC from day one, cause he's a younger and better looking version of his father.

 

[DaimonFey]

What if the lawyer is on it with Monica and she is the Gold Digger?

Seriously though, I think Monica is legit. The only thing she could be hiding is the fact that she actually did have the hots for daddy and was together with him at some point, maybe that's why she let the MC and his mother stay with her, out of guilt.

Also, that's probably why she's so into the MC from day one, cause he's a younger and better looking version of his father.

I don't think that lawyer would risk end of his career and possible prison because I don't think he is suffering poverty.
Thing with Monica/Donald is possible although unlikely and if they had sexual relationship Monica would be rather unwilling participant.

 

[BeingADikDik]

Donald had a sex change operation, became Donica and changed name to Monica. Then MCs mom reciprocated and became the Donald we know today. She took the couples roleplay too seriously and became the monster she saw in her husband.

 

[DaimonFey]

Donald had a sex change operation, became Donica and changed name to Monica. Then MCs mom reciprocated and became the Donald we know today. She took the couples roleplay too seriously and became the monster she saw in her husband.

They also captured real Monica. Afterwards they forced her to undergo gender change operation and renamed her Francis.