Blaisdale

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I don't know about that... WVM has done it perfectly so far. Too bad the dev is just milking patreons thus far.

The problem with WVM...
Would be some people will see the "Trans" tag and bail on it.
With me however its a selling point but I do know that will cause more people to stay clear of it

I would have suggested sorcerer
https://f95zone.to/threads/sorcerer-v1-0-0-talothral.58369/

At least the reason for the harem is well explained with needing to build a house and desire for babies.
(Not getting into that for spoiler reasons and it has its own forum)
 

robertfierce

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Speaking for myself.
I prefer games not to have a Harem.
I don't mind if they do but I prefer jealousy to be added and choices to be made.

(I.E.) Mass Effect 1, if you tried to romance Ash and Liara
You are shown a cut scene and you are suppose to pick one, if you dont Liara is the default choice.
I prefer this kinda out come but that's my own taste of liking consequence for my choices/actions.

I don't think a lack of harem should ever turn you off of a game.
There are so many that are written so well and better off because of it.

Hope you find good Harem games.
Yeah but see, speaking for myself I would rather NOT replay a game 12 times to get all the scenes if you know what I mean.
The dev could easily add a choice / mod to the game where you can choose to play realistically and harem mode. Has been done before many times. The simple fact that choices lock me out of scenes / girls I want just puts me off no mater how good the models are or how great the animations. When I encounter games like these I usually just download the gallery mod but that is only good to view the scenes and not to experience the story itself. Meanwhile I would like to read the story and also go harem route and not have to ignore all the writing and just watch some quick loop animations.
 

WuzzyFuzzy

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The rest are more like conveyer belts. Wake up, fuck a girl, have breakfast, go fuck a girl, go out and fuck a girl, evening fuck a girl..... It's boring as fuck.
As usual, you're far more diplomatic than I would be. If I wrote what I thought of harem games I'd win some ignominious award for most facepalm emoji in a single post. :oops:
 

Arigon

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Is this update significant or should I wait to download.

Commenting on a couple of posts before. WVM is..... an overload. It certainly has a loyal fan base, but god damn its a lot of chicks, and the two you really want seem to be off limits from the dev for "incest" reasons. bleh.

Parental Love. It is the first and only game I deleted all traces of from my computer. Went too far, and I was immensely uncomfortable with it.

Sisterly Lust is one of the GOAT! Love it. Bought it on Steam to support.
I also bought Secret Summer, Picture Perfect, and Come Home *DLC is only thing to pay for on steam at the moment, base game is free. I also bought Time For You. All Incest Harem Games lol.

So is this update worthy or should I wait?
 

darji

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well this workout Scene was definetly something else DAMN..

So giving I go for all women in this game this screams such a disaster after this episode. Basically I let Jolina AND Katie stay at the beach house. Jolina already moved in with Bella XD while Jenna and Katie really had a moment together XD

Is this update significant or should I wait to download.
Yes it is significant
 

WastedTalent

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Yeah but see, speaking for myself I would rather NOT replay a game 12 times to get all the scenes if you know what I mean.
The dev could easily add a choice / mod to the game where you can choose to play realistically and harem mode. Has been done before many times. The simple fact that choices lock me out of scenes / girls I want just puts me off no mater how good the models are or how great the animations. When I encounter games like these I usually just download the gallery mod but that is only good to view the scenes and not to experience the story itself. Meanwhile I would like to read the story and also go harem route and not have to ignore all the writing and just watch some quick loop animations.
Couldn't agree more. I have worked in Daz and blender. Knowing how long it takes to make the art especially animated lewds I just don't understand dev's that make missable scenes. Set the scene and give the player the choice I get a harem isn't for everyone but doing all that work only to have so much missable content seems like wasted effort because I'm not gonna reread 3k words/characters just to watch one scene or to change partners. Or to see a different story path/arc. Especially a long story like this one.
 

MrHatIsHere

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Does anyone know how to properly get the MEGA link to work with MegaDownloader? I try using the links given, and MegaDownloader keeps trying to download everything there. The closest thing I could do was to stop the entire download in MegaDownloader, select everything but the specific file I wanted, and then "Delete from list and disk" in the right-click menu. It seemed to work, but I'm looking for a way that is less awkward with less potential issues.
 

acewinz

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Oct 15, 2018
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Couldn't agree more. I have worked in Daz and blender. Knowing how long it takes to make the art especially animated lewds I just don't understand dev's that make missable scenes. Set the scene and give the player the choice I get a harem isn't for everyone but doing all that work only to have so much missable content seems like wasted effort because I'm not gonna reread 3k words/characters just to watch one scene or to change partners. Or to see a different story path/arc. Especially a long story like this one.
Everybody generally enjoys diversity in their media. In this genre (AVN's) sometimes you want something with no frills and kinetic, or with a conveyor belt of harem friendly if unrealistic women to indulge in the fantasy. But not always or in some cases not even often (there is regular porn after all). From our POV... the rarest and most memorable/enjoyable games are the ones you don't necessarily play off the cuff because it actually makes you think and weigh your choices. Encourages you to try different things because the responses are so varied, but not nonsensical. I personally do enjoy plenty of harem games, especially with a taboo nature, but I really do play a large variety simply because that is the spice of life.

But when it comes down to it, Cheeky and I get the most enjoyment from the types of games when you feel immersed... and the choices presented feel like they have real impact on the story, plot, and relationships. The extra nine yards to that is when the characters themselves will also respond to not just your choices involving them, but all of your choices they are privy too. Add to that when you have a lot of content and options, girls, choices, etc. It provides replayability (which admitedly not everyone wants in this fashion, but usually you would rather have it than not).

Anyway, that is what we set out to do here. And I believe we do it better than anyone else, even to a fault. Most other games with an update this length could be about 3-4 hours long, while ours only is if you try all the combination of choices to see all the outcomes. Chances are our next game will not have anywhere near the grandiose variety of impactful choice and numbers of ways to skin the cat so to speak. It is just too labor intensive. While this makes us sad, it also makes us happy that in a crowded field of relatively similar games, ours will and does stand out, and enough people enjoy it and appreciate that to make it worthwhile monetarily as well.
 
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lordofhirunds

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Beautiful update, with so many choices to make that it almost feels like a showdown,.
This time Monica's rendering is fabulous ( can you tell from my words that I love it so much?). We waited but it was worth it in every image, in every dialogue. Thanks to the fantastic and diabolical TRIO. Brazzini gave confirmation to what I had diabolically thought to bypass the spying of private investigators. and at this point I fear that Greg the lawyer may have some "feeling" for and with Dizzy. Am I wrong? I don't know , maybe, but better keep an eye on him.
ACE what would you do with the house? What decision would you make? If you don't want to spoiler, send me your decision via smoke signals. :unsure::):ROFLMAO:Thank you.
 
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acewinz

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Beautiful update, with so many choices to make that it almost feels like a showdown,.
This time Monica's rendering is fabulous ( can you tell from my words that I love it so much?). We waited but it was worth it in every image, in every dialogue. Thanks to the fantastic and diabolical TRIO. Brazzini gave confirmation to what I had diabolically thought to bypass the spying of private investigators. and at this point I fear that Greg the lawyer may have some "feeling" for and with Dizzy. Am I wrong? I don't know , maybe, but better keep an eye on him.
ACE what would you do with the house? What decision would you make? If you don't want to spoiler, send me your decision via smoke signals. :unsure::):ROFLMAO:Thank you.
I would
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botc76

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It is appreciated to use the spoiler function at this time. Many of us have not yet played the update.
I think I was being quite vague enough so as not to consider this any actual spoilers.
I didn't say what was specifically said (intentionally), the suspicions against Elaine were "confirmed" last episode, Cheeky already mentioned which characters you would interact with...
So, I'm not quite sure what exactly you consider a spoiler. Are you referring to me loosely describing possibilities, or that Jenna was manipulating Katie? That might be a reveal, but certainly not surprising after the last episode, considering what Jenna said in the kitchen, during the movie night.
Sorry, but I don't think I revealed anything that would "spoil" someone's enjoyment of the episode or went into specifics so much, that it could be considered that.
 

WastedTalent

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Everybody generally enjoys diversity in their media. In this genre (AVN's) sometimes you want something with no frills and kinetic, or with a conveyor belt of harem friendly if unrealistic women to indulge in the fantasy. But not always or in some cases not even often (there is regular porn after all). From our POV... the rarest and most memorable/enjoyable games are the ones you don't necessarily play off the cuff because it actually makes you think and weigh your choices. Encourages you to try different things because the responses are so varied, but not non-nonsensical. I personally do enjoy plenty of harem games, especially with a taboo nature, but I really do play a large variety simply because that is the spice of life.

But when it comes down to it, Cheeky and I get the most enjoyment from the types of games when you feel immersed... and the choices presented feel like they have real impact on the story, plot, and relationships. The extra nine yards to that is when the characters themselves will also respond to not just your choices involving them, but all of your choices they are privy too. Add to that when you have a lot of content and options, girls, choices, etc. It provides replayability (which admitedly not everyone wants in this fashion, but usually you would rather have it than not).

Anyway, that is what we set out to do here. And I believe we do it better than anyone else, even to a fault. Most other games with an update this length could be about 3-4 hours long, while ours only is if you try all the combination of choices to see all the outcomes. Chances are our next game will not have anywhere near the grandiose variety of impactful choice and numbers of ways to skin the cat so to speak. It is just too labor intensive. While this makes us sad, it also makes us happy that in a crowded field of relatively similar games, ours will and does stand out, and enough people enjoy it and appreciate that to make it worthwhile monetarily as well.
I get all that and I'm happy for both of you and achieving the level of success you have, I just prefer a different format. I said in my previous post I understand why you did it this way doesn't change that it's disappointing for me and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Doesn't mean I totally hate the game, but no I'm not looking for replays at all. I follow a lot of stories and taking the time to work through I'm not sure how many paths you have that's not even totally clear, but that's just not for me. I'm not hating on you two for the decision just said it was disappointing that's all. I can't speak for everyone but I get attached to characters. I understand it's fiction and it's my issue but I still do and knowing that at some point I'm gonna have to hurt someone just to move forward with someone else bothers me. I do appreciate that you waited until later in the story to push those more concrete choices just wish I didn't have to hurt others making those choices.
 
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