It's always perplexing to me when porn devs go to the trouble of doing the art work, the writing, and coding for sex scenes/routes but then don't include a "harem" route where the user can just encounter the dev's hard work all in one playthrough. Just feels like a waste of time to work on stuff that a segment of your userbase may never play through just because they got funneled into specific routes.
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- Aug 22, 2018
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You may as well just play kinetic novels then. No point adding choices if they don't go anywhere.
Devs aren't making these to showcase porn scenes, they are making adult games with stories.
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- Jan 25, 2022
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Well... the issues are much deeper than your binary options. This game went season 8 Game of Thrones on us
this is not the story we've been playing. I don't know if the writers changed or what, but this feels like a different game. We were once romancing all these women and following their stories, but now we're faced at every moment with the hard to choice to abandon them or make them our sole interest??
Porn game or not, i'm confused. I guess the devs didn't want a pleasurable ending, that's their choice, but don't pretend like it's a great "story"
- Aug 22, 2018
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You act like Cheeky didn't say 4 years ago this wasn't a harem game, he did.Well... the issues are much deeper than your binary options. This game went season 8 Game of Thrones on us
I don't know if the writers changed or what, but this feels like a different game. We were once romancing all these women and following their stories, but now we're faced at every moment with the hard to choice to abandon them or make them our sole interest??
Porn game or not, i'm confused. I guess the devs didn't want a pleasurable ending, that's their choice, but don't pretend like it's a great "story"
The fact is you ignored everything the dev said and everything said in game. There have been warnings for the past couple of years that a harem would never work, you ignored it.
I'm guessing you skipped all the words and just watched the sex scenes.
It isn't a recent change, it was never a thing to start with.
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Nah, i didn't expect full on harem... but i also didn't expect "You've permanently ended the relationship with XXXXXX" at every turn.
- Aug 22, 2018
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There have been constant warnings that the girls wouldn't share.
Katie was only willing to share with the girls but jealousy still gets involved. None of the older women are willing at all.
It's not like it was sprung on you, you've had warnings. None of it was a surprise.
This is as laughable as those complaining about Becoming a Rockstar having all the LI's dump the MC if he was dating them all, they also gave you plenty of warning they wouldn't share.
It's like some of you ignore everything you get told and make up your own narrative.
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On one hand we want our choices to matter in those kind of game...
On tho other hand, loading previous saves to check every options is very tedious.
Some women want exclusive relationship, some women were willing to "share" but not with every women for [more or less] obvious reasons.
Hopefully, there will be a solid guide/walkthrough, just to be sure to not miss anything.
On tho other hand, loading previous saves to check every options is very tedious.
Some women want exclusive relationship, some women were willing to "share" but not with every women for [more or less] obvious reasons.
Hopefully, there will be a solid guide/walkthrough, just to be sure to not miss anything.
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Well this turned into one depressing break-up simulator. I remember when this game used to be really witty and hot, now even the side characters are dishing out morality lectures (while simultaneously blackmailing you).
The mom is crying in her room. Lily says she's already "sharing" you with her friends but when you ask her to include Katie she breaks up with you. Peachy. Yet in the very next scene you can joke with Katie about including Lily and Debbie. I am confusion. Maybe that gets cleared up later on but that was the point I quit.
The mom is crying in her room. Lily says she's already "sharing" you with her friends but when you ask her to include Katie she breaks up with you. Peachy. Yet in the very next scene you can joke with Katie about including Lily and Debbie. I am confusion. Maybe that gets cleared up later on but that was the point I quit.
Umm, your position assumes that all choices lead to a harem route result. Including a harem route to allow players to experience more of the story and art of the developer in a playthrough doesn't preclude other choices. Not sure how you equate including of something equals the exclusion of all other things. There is no logic to such a position. Your position also assumes that everyone given an option to go the harem route will do so. Which doesn't seem grounded in anything at all, as many people don't like harem content based on the numerous NTR vs harem debates on the site. Hell I've read people say they dislike both harem and NTR?
I really don't care if the dev includes harem or not, Just make the story make sense. I just remember a game [Can't remember the name and i don't know if it is even on this site] I stopped playing that had the a four way relationship going that the women in the situation proposed the arrangement and the story (I'm bit fuzzy on the details as its been a while) was such that both the protagonist and the three woman where in danger. the protagonist nearly dies and the most pressing thing the protagonist needs to do after nearly dying from a threat very much still active is stop his harem and choose a single love interest. Maybe stop thinking about your love life and thing about saving yourself and the women most important to you and THEN make your choice. It made no sense narratively, and you are just asking to be distracted as two of the three woman and NOT going to be happy about it at all.
- Aug 3, 2018
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because of this non harem thing ,i played it until you had to start makin breakups and now im out....it was entertaining till now but here is the point to stop if you love harem routes,cause it gets ugly,haremwise....the start was super not so the rest but even then....THANKS FOR A COOL half of a game.....
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Not sure if we played the same game this whole time... The only "warnings" were the dialog options in the game that coaxed each of the girls into the idea of a harem. Only to be pulled away in a sudden "nope" by a writing decision in the last update.
But again, i'm not a dev. lol. Maybe they'd rather have a consequential ending than a satisfying one.
- May 13, 2017
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Sounds like one of Daniels K games, that kind of thing happens in at least half of them lol.
For a long time I enjoyed this game, yes I did read the dialogue, but I also realise that devs hide things and include surprises, plot twists and the like into their games. But unfortunately this game has recently lost its appeal because of the particular way in which the dev has made the 'dominos fall'. The game is no longer enjoyable to me, good luck to the dev, I'm out of here.
This update was incredible imo. Progresses the story well and has some of the hottest scenes to date. Seems to be some complaints about forced relationship ending, but that was always going to happen in a story that's been written like this.
I also 100% share your views on PL (ick) and SL (incredible) so if we're on the same page about that, then maybe we'll be in agreement about this update. Hats off to Cheeky and the team, I loved this update.
- Aug 22, 2018
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My position on this and EVERY game is based on 2 things, what the game tells me and what the devs tell me.
Cheeky told us 4 years ago this wasn't going to have a harem so I never played it as such but on the routes I did take there were constant warnings it was not going to end well if I had multiple partners.
The other game you are talking about sounds like Retrieving the Past, another game the dev said wouldn't have a harem and the MC woulod have to choose and another game the dev was ignored and people acted like it was sprung on them.
Same thing happened with BaR despite constant warnings.
I freely admit i'm not a fan of harems, I think they look ridiculous as fuck and make choice based game utterly pointless.
People keep bringing up WVM as doing a harem game well but it isn't much of a game. It's a pick your porn scene simulator. Choices mean nothing and all boil down to "wanna see sum, fuk yes or no". And that's fine for what it is, it is a good fuck fest novel.
Harems are great in fantasy settings.
I missed one out from games I enjoy, I also love Last Sovereign and that does a harem insanely well. The thing there is the MC is an Incubus King that needs all the sex to power up so collecting women like it's Pokemon made sense.
Sisterly Lust and Parental Love both did it great by getting everyone involved and leaving no one out but that could never work here considering half the cast hate each other.
The sad thing is, people see multiple LI's and instantly expect harem despite everything they are told.
The REALLY sad thing is despite being told for 4 years this would never have a harem it still has people complaining yet they must have grasped by now the dev isn't going to pander to them.
"The game told me not to expect a harem but because other games have plot twists I ignored it yet when it happened I gave up" .... fucking, wut?
Picture Perfect was so close to being great.
I loved the characters, I loved the build but it could have done with being a few updates longer to let things end naturally. It did feel a bit abrupt at the end.
Secret Summer is doing better.
I don't include Come Home because they never interact with each other so it's less of a harem and more a guy that gets lots of sex.
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Quoting myself. I don't want a harem setting, but the game gave that vibe from start. Game design not going in the same direction as story is not very good. So i'll play episode 22 which is out, but the game clearly will suffer from that if done badly. I can accept a story moving in some direction, but if it's some kind of "fuck your playthrough" then it's rather "drop the game, play another" moment.
What the hell does anything you said here have to do with you equating adding a harem option to a game equaling just a kinetic novel? Nothing in the above post has anything to do with what you said. I don't care what your opinion on harems are, because that wasn't what i was addressing in your comment. And to be clear i don't care what anyone's opinion on harems are including the developer because it doesn't matter we all like what we like and dislike what we don't and telling someone they are wrong for liking or disliking something seems more than a little arrogant and foolish at the same time.
i don't care if the game stated from day one it would or wouldn't have a harem ending, WHy? Because that has nothing to do with your statement. Someone expressed a desire to have a harem option. Which incase you are not aware is a perfectly VALID position because we ALL consume media and wish there were changes or a different approach was used. So why are you so put out by it? Part of sharing media with other people is expressing what you like AND dislike and what you wish a creator did. It is a normal response. If someone said they wanted NTR in the game it would be perfectly valid because likes and dislike are NOT objective. What is abnormal is you getting your knickers in a bunch about it. And then saying bizarre things like adding a Harem OPTION equals no choice. Which makes no sense how is adding yet more choice to a story equal to removing it? And telling people to fuck off.
Are you aware of what i was addressing? Because you went on an on about when you think a harem should and shouldn't be in a game and I don't care. I stated i didn't care in my original post to you. What i don't get is why you told someone to fuck off to porn hub just because they expressed a desire for something not in the game. How was that not anything but you being the problem in the conversation? if you were tired of people complaining don't read the bloody thread.
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I think the only thing that adding harem to a game that wasnt originally harem does to the user is make them feel like the choices are not as important or doesnt make you think as hard.
when its not a harem game and you have the options to cheat or you're figuring out who you like the decisions feel a lot more real and important, you think a lot more about it, "if i do this will this person find out in a chapter or 2 or will that ruin this with her" those kind of things. this is one reason i like games that are not harems. others dont need to agree this is all personal opinion on what i can see affecting people who do like that.
i play harem games too and i dont mind them, some i prefer to be like that but for me it definitely feels like the decisions with the women are a lot less important which does take away a certain realistic feel and feeling.
when its not a harem game and you have the options to cheat or you're figuring out who you like the decisions feel a lot more real and important, you think a lot more about it, "if i do this will this person find out in a chapter or 2 or will that ruin this with her" those kind of things. this is one reason i like games that are not harems. others dont need to agree this is all personal opinion on what i can see affecting people who do like that.
i play harem games too and i dont mind them, some i prefer to be like that but for me it definitely feels like the decisions with the women are a lot less important which does take away a certain realistic feel and feeling.