it seems to work, thank you very much Jackmiejov. Is there any other trick to know to avoid other bug?
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I dont make posts often about any game, but for me and my life experiences there needs to trigger warnings added for for those thats actually have had a parent die and having to deal with said parent's partner.
To keep it simple, i WAS kicked out of my home at 15 years old by my father's wife when he passed from a work accident.
I have made it to chapter 12, and it physically made me ill. I will play this no further. Its is a good game, with very good dialogue compared to most vn's i have played but the truly asinine interaction between MC and Elaine is a slap in the face. I know my experiences will differ wildly than the norm, but with real trauma there is no chance for the reconciliation the dev is going for.
Sorry for this down post, but i had to get it out.
To keep it simple, i WAS kicked out of my home at 15 years old by my father's wife when he passed from a work accident.
I have made it to chapter 12, and it physically made me ill. I will play this no further. Its is a good game, with very good dialogue compared to most vn's i have played but the truly asinine interaction between MC and Elaine is a slap in the face. I know my experiences will differ wildly than the norm, but with real trauma there is no chance for the reconciliation the dev is going for.
Sorry for this down post, but i had to get it out.
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i would say - do keep playing...things arent exactly as it seems to you now
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Sorry you experienced that, bro.
That is a really specific trigger though, I don't think it's realistic for media to add trigger warnings for every possible thing that could be traumatic in real life.
I understand that this is a game to be played, but perhaps you would be better thinking of the other real people playing and take into consideration that this could have a negative impact on other's mental health. Two suicide attempts and 9 years of therapy later i can 100% say i am not ready to play something like this, and maybe by putting in trigger warnings it can help others that have been through similar life experiences avoid feeling like i have since last night.i would say - do keep playing...things arent exactly as it seems to you now
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you, as anyone else in that matter, have your own experience and based on that you judge everything else.
this game might have somewhat similar setup to your experience at the start, i agree, yet a bit later a few things are revealed that change that experience/setup almost completely.
in short - the things arent as they might look like in the first 10-15 chapters or so.
and regarding warning, the user above has explained it well.
at the end it is up to you -if you feel uncomfortable playing it, moreover if the game dameages your already fragile mind, by all means, do stop playing and never turn back to it.
Not so good info in between: now already the second one of the former three developers of WTHI struggles
(first ace, now cell ):
Found that on cell's game page "The Cabin":
(first ace, now cell
):Found that on cell's game page "The Cabin":
Thank you for the effort you have put into your reply, and thank you again for considering my point of view. I would consider playing, especially since you can skip chapters in this game. I have already played up until 12, do you think it would be worth just skipping that chapter and going from there? I do like this game and the characters in it, so im kinda asking for spoilers if you wouldnt mind letting my know where i should skip to.
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You will need to skip a lot since all the answers are in ep 23(there are some clues before).
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I don't know if trigger warnings for the game would be practical. You can't put a trigger warning for everything, so they are normally used on topics that society as a whole sees as unusually significant - especially when the subject matter can crop up suddenly or unexpectedly. To use the obvious example, rape is widely considered to be extremely traumatic, and it can crop up quickly in story that didn't have anything to do with rape previously. So it's a good candidate for a trigger warning if a seemingly innocuous tale is going to take a dark turn.
In this case, I don't think adding a trigger warning to WtHI would be warranted. While society as a whole is well aware that family (and inheritance in particular) can cause all manner of problems, in my experience it seems to be regarded as more of a big picture issue. Family issues lack the acute, pinpoint trauma of something like rape or PTSD that would normally garner a trigger warning (though I'm certainly not trying to dismiss your own history).
Meanwhile I think WtHI already does a decent job of gradually signaling that family issues will play a big role in the game all on its own. We don't start with the MC being kicked onto the street, we start with him arriving at an old friend's home and being warmly welcomed. We learn that Elaine intends to kick the MC out of his family house by text and Bella winds up rescuing his belongings before that actually happens. We're then told more and more about Elaine before we meet her in person and kick off her story arc. To me it feels like the game gives us plenty of warning that this sort of material could be coming, though I'll admit I have no experience with this sort of trauma so perhaps I'm not a good barometer.
Now as to the MC's interactions with Elaine, I think the reason you find them alarming is a combination of two factors. First is simply the limitation on choices in a video game. Elaine has a a role in story and if the MC could 100% dismiss her in a profanity-fueled tirade it would make that role very hard maintain. The MC *is* allowed to insult and belittle Elaine (practically to the point of gaslighting her if we want to push it that far), but he needs to maintain a token level of civility while doing so to keep the branching under control. You don't need to return her alleged affection (at least thus far), but you do need to be somewhat sociable with her. You'll have to judge for yourself if that's a bridge too far.
The second issue is that, as others have mentioned, there's more going on with Elaine than the MC knows about at first. The game isn't going to ask you to turn a blind eye to her callousness, though it might ultimately portray her actions (and/or those of other characters) in a more nuanced light. Again, whether that would be offensive to you isn't really something I can answer without knowing more about your specific experiences and concerns. My best advice is to take it slow and don't force yourself to keep playing if something starts to alarm you.
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Hey folks,
Just an update to keep everyone in the loop....
Payment is still turned off (insert crying emoji here.) Now onto some episode 24 progress...
So, the scene I expected to finish yesterday, I did. But I haven't thrown it over the wall to the QC team yet as there are a few things I'm not happy with. But I'm never happy with what I write, so I want to put this finished scene on the shelf for a week and hope that when I come back to it, I will be happy and don't need to change anything. In the meantime, I'm going to move onto the second last scene to complete - Yes, that's right, only two scenes left to complete the episode (finally, the glacier is starting to melt). One is mostly written and both are 100% complete for art (except for some girl-on-girl stuff that I just requested from Cell tonight).
In my next update, I'll give the % progress, but it's only been a few days since the last % update, so hopefully, you'll let me off for tonight. I try to avoid giving time estimates (because I can never foresee real-life and real-work curveballs) but I'm seeing some crazy stuff posted on forums saying ep24 won't be out until 2024 or it's abandoned, etc....so just to give a ball-park, I would estimate there is a little over a month's work left to round out the episode, but as I said, I'll keep the update reports a little more frequent, so you'll know if I slip.
Also, for any of you who follow Cell's solo games, you might have noticed his update on his Patreon page about stepping back /spending a little less time working on development (due to some personal/ health issues.) Newsflash: Working 18 hours a day, 7 days a week across 3 or 4 different games is not good for anyone's health. I'm glad to see that Cell has finally admitted that he is human and is cutting down on his working hours. Just to re-assure everyone, this will not impact WTHI as he making most of the cuts on his other projects, so no risk to any of our WTHI work.
And now onto some episode 24 teasers....Some of these might seem spoilery....so do NOT scroll down if you do not want any inkling of what's to come. And some of these images will only appear on specific routes / specific choices, so won't appear in every play-through.
Any questions or comments, please let me know.
Thanks,
CG
Hi - Sorry to hear about this and the trauma in your past. I sent you a DM with some info that may help.
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And Zarah told us she couldn't have kids