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Cedroc1701

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Regarding the end scene; I've seen others mention that it doesn't happen on the Bella path, but I can confirm it does, it did in my playthrough. and I just checked the code to see something....

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acewinz

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Regarding the end scene; I've seen others mention that it doesn't happen on the Bella path, but I can confirm it does, it did in my playthrough. and I just checked the code to see something....

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Not entirely related to your comment but you reminded me of something.
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dkatryl

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For what it's worth, I realized the problem with the exception error when I tried to save was on my end. Seeing some of the other comments and how ep23 was upgraded to renoy 8.03, and my JoiPlay was still on 7.5, I downloaded the 8.03 from their Patreon, and that fixed the problem. :)
 
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Cedroc1701

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Not entirely related to your comment but you reminded me of something.
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Hah, that is interesting! I was scanning through the Ep23 script and the amount of conditional scenes is... mindblowing. I don't know how you can keep it all straight and remember each exception. It's like this meme in code form:
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Regarding those characters:
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NakedSingularity

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How does the story even make sense with an incest patch? Best case scenario it could work if you make monica mc's aunt, so that the dialogs stay coherent, but i guess you want a 'bang mommy' mod.
I haven't played it since ep21/ last incest mod but irrc "mommy's friend" is just the plain mommy and her daughters (nerd girl and gym rat) are your sisters. So all story where it mentions or refers to mom as dead is removed. Much more than a "bang mommy" mod, you could also bang your hot sisters.
 
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UnoriginalUserName

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I had a whole rant typed out but what's the fucking point....

Cliffnotes version...



Still a harem and still defeats the whole purpose of the entire not sharing thing. They may not know they are sharing but they still are.



Still a harem. When you start hitting 3+ women in one relationship you're in a harem as per the tag rules here and still defeats the whole not sharing thing.

Lets not even get into the Katie and Jenna thing that at one point was an instant breakup but now they are on the verge of fucking each other.

This is making Katies entire character arc to be the single most pointless thing ever because none of it matters anymore.

May aswell have Monica go down on them both, that makes as much sense.

The worst part, for me ... because I was doing it, is the fact I spent the past..... year or so?

About that long?

Telling everyone there is no harem, mocking people, arguing with people, mocking and arguing with people .... to pop in today and find out I was made out to be a complete and utter lying bitch because it is a harem game it's just not labelled and skirting saying "well, he may be fucking all these women but he's going to be a nasty cheater ... but still fucking them all"......

I'm annoyed for 3 reasons. When I was first told this wasn't a harem game, i'd stopped playing. I stopped because, unpopular opinion, unless it's full poly with everyone involved I find basic harems to be boring as fuck and this was looking like a harem game at one point.

Then I was hit with the old, choices will matter. Cheating has concequences. I fell for it. Here I was, expecting a glorious fall out like Become a Rockstar which is what I thought all the suspicion points were building up to which made choices matter because they had consequences.

Only, they don't as I just found out. So I feel lied to from that alone.

Then I spend all this time backing that dev up and telling everyone else there is no harem which now makes me out to be a liar and that does piss me right the fuck off.

Lastly, story and character development matter to me. If I wanted porn i'd go to Pornhub, I play these because they have plot and characters I care about. So when I play a game that's stretched out for a few years and watch these characters grow and certain developments happen only to find out they are utterly pointless it kinda kills it for me. Regardless of knowledge of events, having a character, in this case multiple characters, all dislike the idea of sharing then have them either join groups for the very purpose of sharing or still have the MC banging half the world it ruins the development of that character and renders it pointless. Whether they are aware of said sharing or not they are still sharing their man with multiple partners. That development only works if there is follow through and consequences, which there aren't as said to me here.

So now I know where it's going. I apologise to everyone i've argued with over this and especially those i've mocked. I was very wrong.

Now i'm going to find some wine because this has been a fucking depressing evening and this bitch needs a drink ...... or the whole fucking bottle.
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lordofhirunds

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I don't understand why a plot that works, you want to change it by twisting it. We are on the twenty-third update that has just come out and we hope it will come soon, maybe as early as tomorrow the twenty-fourth . Hardly has a Vn enthralled so many and so many, forcing us to become detectives, lawyers and especially Romeos given the characters that were being proposed as they came along. We fell in love with Monica, Kate and Jenna, Angela, Wanda, Theresa, Natasha, Debbi, Lily, Jolina, Elaine and Bella changing feelings to love-hate as needed. Now we are wondering which of Joline and Bella to fuck off. I ask Cheeky and Ace why Jenna warns Mc that she found something strange in Jolina's laptop, but then nothing more was heard of it? Did I miss any passages? Sorry these are only my considerations and not not an accusation. Good Sunday
 

acewinz

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I don't understand why a plot that works, you want to change it by twisting it. We are on the twenty-third update that has just come out and we hope it will come soon, maybe as early as tomorrow the twenty-fourth . Hardly has a Vn enthralled so many and so many, forcing us to become detectives, lawyers and especially Romeos given the characters that were being proposed as they came along. We fell in love with Monica, Kate and Jenna, Angela, Wanda, Theresa, Natasha, Debbi, Lily, Jolina, Elaine and Bella changing feelings to love-hate as needed. Now we are wondering which of Joline and Bella to fuck off. I ask Cheeky and Ace why Jenna warns Mc that she found something strange in Jolina's laptop, but then nothing more was heard of it? Did I miss any passages? Sorry these are only my considerations and not not an accusation. Good Sunday
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Avaron1974

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Sorry you feel we sold you a bill of goods you didn't want.
Completely missed the point.

It's not a matter of being something I didn't want, it's that what you told us and what is happening are 2 different things and by extension those of us that have had your back against people giving you shit for certain things have been made out to be liars.

First the thing with katie and Jenna. That was never foreshadowed, there was even the whole break up thing and Cheeky saying he wanted to avoid anything that would damage the Patreon or any incest which was one of the reasons for the plot changed at the start. Now this wasn't my hill to die on but other people backed you devs up telling people Katie and Jenna wouldn't happen. Now what happens in game and what was told to us are 2 different things and now those people look like liars.

You specifically told me there was no harem so I fought your corner for a year + now for every person that come here giving you shit I had your back. I mocked people, I argued with people and got thread bans because I was backing up what you were saying.

Now I come here only to find out i've been made out to be a liar and i've fallen out with people and got all those warnings for no fucking reason.

So for over a year i've been defending your choices with the game only for it to be a lie. Raven even stopped working on his guide based on what you were saying when it wouldn't have mattered. Still ending up with all those people is a harem whether you want to call it that or not so Raven stopped his guide for no reason and I shit on people for no reason.

After all that this....

Sorry you feel we sold you a bill of goods you didn't want.
Is the response you decide to give me.....

There is no middle finger big enough.
 
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