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- Apr 7, 2020
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I went through the introduction/diclaimer and i already smell five stars. Devs showed they really have a solid and concrete vision on the VNs world. Let's see if the game lives up to it.
Oh wow, i didn't expect the protag from A Dark Horse Riding to be friends with the MC.
Guess this game calls on ADHR saves or something, that's so cool.
They both have the same name LOL.
Hope we get more cross over scenes & stories between both games.
Guess this game calls on ADHR saves or something, that's so cool.
They both have the same name LOL.
Hope we get more cross over scenes & stories between both games.
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- Apr 2, 2020
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- Dec 30, 2021
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I don't know if anyone mention this already or should I even re
port it here but I think the dialogue between MC and Olivia in front of the girls' school before Olivia try to blackmail Maddie to invite her to meet MC is I guess leaked from one path to another since it mentioned Olivia catched MC doing something with Kelly at the corridor (which I guess it happens in the lust path) but my MC is on the love path and never interact with Olivia again aside from their first interaction scene so it kinda confusing.
port it here but I think the dialogue between MC and Olivia in front of the girls' school before Olivia try to blackmail Maddie to invite her to meet MC is I guess leaked from one path to another since it mentioned Olivia catched MC doing something with Kelly at the corridor (which I guess it happens in the lust path) but my MC is on the love path and never interact with Olivia again aside from their first interaction scene so it kinda confusing.
- Aug 7, 2016
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I have only one little complain, maddie on begining of her story in toilet had little turf of pubic hair, but later she was fully shaved 
its any chance for her to grow back this little piece of lewdness?
its any chance for her to grow back this little piece of lewdness?
- May 28, 2019
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Checked out the update. There were some things I liked, some I didn't, but nothing worthy of getting too into it. I can say for sure that I really liked the stripclub scene with MC and cute redhead girlfriend (at least in my playthrough I try to be loyal). And also liked the phone suggestion that they should repeat that soon with some other people involved, hope it delivers next update!
Selfishly I quite dislike the "developing 2 games at same time" strategy, maybe because I have bad experience with it in other projects. But I understand it as well as creative mind and if developer feels that it's needed all I can say is good luck!
Maybe I should check out the other game even tho I glimpsed it over and didn't feel right up my alley, but as some people mention there are crossover characters so that could be fun. I wonder tho, does it at all mess with my save if, for example, I start Dark Horse game now and name a character different name who was already met in this game? Or does it blend seemlessly and after I try Dark Horse game and load older save the name will automatically be changed if I have both games tried out?
Selfishly I quite dislike the "developing 2 games at same time" strategy, maybe because I have bad experience with it in other projects. But I understand it as well as creative mind and if developer feels that it's needed all I can say is good luck!
Maybe I should check out the other game even tho I glimpsed it over and didn't feel right up my alley, but as some people mention there are crossover characters so that could be fun. I wonder tho, does it at all mess with my save if, for example, I start Dark Horse game now and name a character different name who was already met in this game? Or does it blend seemlessly and after I try Dark Horse game and load older save the name will automatically be changed if I have both games tried out?
This one has me a bit baffled. The way I have the variables set up for that scene in front of the school is that the only way you get the extra dialogue about how Olivia and Lian caught you in the hallway with Kelly - is if you were already on Olivia's path. And the only way to get on Olivia's path (before this new scene) was to be on the Lust route with Kelly and have that scene in the hallway (You then had to choose to look at Olivia's panties to set her lewd path) Unfortunately, I didn't set a flag back in that original hallway scene so I had to use another way of determining if you saw that scene or not. The only thing I can think of is that you may have played through the scene, then on a roll-back the variable was still set as True. I'll have to test this when I start work on it again. Thx for the report.
I've learned a lot on making Whoremonger, and one of the harshest lessons I learned was to plan my paths and forks much better next time. I had this elaborate vision in my mind when I first started making this VN, but it soon turned into a nightmare to keep true to the paths I made. For example, on some of the scenes in this Act 2, I had to make four different versions of things, just to keep consistent with previous paths and forks. Thankfully, I learned my lesson and I am starting to mold those paths into something a little more coherent.
1. The working on two games is for my own sanity. If I was just doing the one, I would come to hate it and the quality would suffer a lot. After two months of 8-10 hour days working on a project, the burn out is very real. But when I shift gears and start back on the other project, it's like a breath of fresh air. It's a process that is so far working for me, but I am sure it will evolve over time.
2. The crossover feature just saves the names you made for the core characters and it's only saved in a separate file file in your Renpy AppData folder in a sub-folder called "persistent". It won't touch the original save files.
Also, if you haven't played both VN's, then it will just load the defaults I made for the story you haven't played. Someone above raised a point though, that I didn't consider... a lot of people name their MC's and other core characters the same in each game. So I need a way to deal with that. I think the easiest way is going to be to just put a change name option on each character's bio page. It's something I wanted to add for a while now anyhow.
- May 23, 2023
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In my game, the MCs in both games have the same name and the two female characters in the cafe scene also have identical names. So now there are 2 MCs with the same name and 2 girls with the same name sitting together in the cafe, because the names are probably (at least I assume so) taken from the save files.
- May 23, 2023
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oh yes, I actually forgot to say: keep up the good work Turning Tricks, I think the game is getting better and better .....
- May 28, 2019
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Thanks for response/information first of all. But picture scenario like this... On Whoremonger I already met the crossover character, let's say his name is Danny... Now I go play the Dark Horse game and rename the crossover character Billy. Now I return to Whoremonger and continue playing and meet the crossover character again (past initial meeting). Will it stay Danny as I first met him or will he be Billy now that I have persistent from Dark Horse? This is just interesting to me it's not that important, I just don't know if I'll get around to playing the Dark Horse game to check this myself, no offence.
So this was weird and caught me off guard. I'm not sure if it's a bug, or just written this way.
I'm on 'no path' with Laura GILF, and 'lust' with Agnes Hobo. I got a couple of minor solo Agnes scenes in the basement just fine, but then the cleaner retired. For some weird reason, the MC called up the Laura and asked her if she thought Agnes would like the job. I had no idea they even knew each other, and wondered why the MC didn't go downstairs and talk to Agnes directly. A bit later on, we see Agnes in Laura's home talking like they're living together. Did I miss something? Is there a missed or missing variable that punted me onto a different path or something? If this is deliberate, then there really needs to be something to let the player know this happened, so we know WTF is going on when we call up Laura out of the blue.
I'm on 'no path' with Laura GILF, and 'lust' with Agnes Hobo. I got a couple of minor solo Agnes scenes in the basement just fine, but then the cleaner retired. For some weird reason, the MC called up the Laura and asked her if she thought Agnes would like the job. I had no idea they even knew each other, and wondered why the MC didn't go downstairs and talk to Agnes directly. A bit later on, we see Agnes in Laura's home talking like they're living together. Did I miss something? Is there a missed or missing variable that punted me onto a different path or something? If this is deliberate, then there really needs to be something to let the player know this happened, so we know WTF is going on when we call up Laura out of the blue.
It looks like that to me too. It also looks like the 'love' path has more content, at least with April.
Basically the way it works is when you name any character in either VN, it saves those names to that separate multi.persistent file for all my projects. So if you saved the MC in Dark Horse as Mark last month and then played Whoremonger now, he will show up as Mark. But if you went back and replayed Dark Horse again today and renamed the MC to John, the MP file would get updated and the next time you played Whoremonger, the MC would now be John.
How often this value gets updated depends on how I code it. Right now, it's updating at the start and again when the Act 2 content starts. I did that just to catch old saves and any new players. When I add the change name option in the next update, I'll make sure it updates the MP file as well, soon as you change your name.
Hey Turning tricks, I have a question regarding the FF route for Laura and Agnes. If we enable the story for them does that lock both of them out of future content with the MC or is it just additional content on top of what they will have with him later? Love the game by the way keep up the great work!
This was an example of where I let my multiple paths get away from me. I meant to have some sort of bridge content here to explain things better, but it got lost in the last minute prep. Originally, I was planning on Agnes not meeting Laura right away, if you were on Agnes' Lust path. But I changed my mind, because having her live in the basement was just too weird, in context with everything else. I changed it to where even you Laura and Agnes are not in any sort of relationship, Laura still took Agnes under her wing and helped her out. My plan is to eventually have Agnes move into that last vacant apartment.
In the next update, I am going to add a new scene just to set that situation up better and not confuse players.
I tried to explain this in the narrative, but if you decide to enable the pure lesbian story, then - yes - you will not be having lewd interactions with those two and will just be a good friend. There - MAY - be a future scene that's an exception, but I haven't decided on that yet. This is just something I wanted to experiment with and I am actually looking forward to working on that story.
If you said yes to FF content at the beginning of Act 2, but didn't pick the lesbian path later, the MC will still have interactions with both of them and Laura and Agnes will have the occasional scene with each other alone, but it will be more a bisexual thing.
- Nov 17, 2020
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Turning Tricks Really like the game so far, the writing really has progressed from the start to the end of the current build. Did notice several times where the coding has the wrong person talking. Like the following...
That aside, overall great job. One of the few games that I leave the soundtrack on because of liking the music. I hope you do well on the project but not to where a record label goes copyright claim on you. Also like your shouting out LOML, which is also a favorite of mine, maybe even my top game, just based on the writing and humor. I do like that with the NTR switch left off and the FF switch turned on, we still get a decent amount of scenes without just being constant lewd without any real story. I think you are doing a good job at balancing things. Too many games either slow play too long(see AWAM) or have little to no story, just sex scenes, hell I got pornhub if I only wanted that.
That aside, overall great job. One of the few games that I leave the soundtrack on because of liking the music. I hope you do well on the project but not to where a record label goes copyright claim on you. Also like your shouting out LOML, which is also a favorite of mine, maybe even my top game, just based on the writing and humor. I do like that with the NTR switch left off and the FF switch turned on, we still get a decent amount of scenes without just being constant lewd without any real story. I think you are doing a good job at balancing things. Too many games either slow play too long(see AWAM) or have little to no story, just sex scenes, hell I got pornhub if I only wanted that.
Not sure I saw a later choice to be lesbian only. I did see the scene in Laura's bedroom, where Agnes sneaks in. Also, in the character descriptions, it shows Agnes as bisexual and Laura as 'wants to live life'. I never saw a choice for lesbian only, unless it was some hidden choice. FWIW, I want to still have them as fuckable by the MC but let them have fun on their own together.
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