Why is Man of The House so popular ?

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dev had a idea, a story in his head and he wanted to share it.
I offered my take on his game which he decided to make for money. I wholly expect someone to look critically at my game when i release it. Having an idea and sharing that idea doesn't make you immune to criticism if your idea is complete crap.

Taking these factors into action you must realize that there are suddenly alot of opinions and tastes influencing the games development. Would your above idea make everyone happy?
I think you should probably take a look at the thread I linked in the other post. There are plenty of posts talking about the dos and don'ts of opening up your game to public feedback. The suggestion is that you set your own content ideas that you plan on implementing anyways as the poll options. Then you do the one they like the most first. Don't let them dictate your own creative process. It ruins the game.

i know personally i like your ideas for the little sister for the most part but i don't like them for older sister or mother.
I barely deviated from his plot with the older sister, I dropped the grind, made her punishments more severe, and salvaged his broken as fuck blackmail scenario that wouldn't have worked on the daugher in DMD, let alone his older sister. Maybe it was too hardcore for you, that's fine. Its not necessary.

As for mom, I stuck pretty close to hers as well, only I added depth and story instead of grind. It makes much more sense for the woman who birthed 3 children to not be your little manipulated 1 dimensional cum bucket. I say again, women don't get hypnotized by every big dick they see. The entire premise of your seduction of your mom would be over the moment she saw you naked. Why? because she doesn't see you as a man. You have to fix that. Do you have to do it the way I did? No, but I was trying to stay true to his mechanics. The one thing you could drop is the sister requirement, I just know it would be better for your sisters to praise you around mom, that's all.

I'm gonna come off as arrogant with this comment, I'm not, I simply understand the elements of a good story. Nothing about the grind system with bullshit rewards as presented in MotH is of any value. I'm not trying to salvage it because I like it. I'm offering an alternative to highlight it's weaknesses. MotH has one thing going for it, semi quality renders. its' not special in any way beyond that. None of its gameplay was fun. I wasn't invested in a single character. Stupid fetch quests and boring repetative tasks made playing this game a chore. Fuck the entire format of MotH. Stop sucking up to someone just because they made something and start respecting yourself enough to complain when something sucks.
 

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I offered my take on his game which he decided to make for money. I wholly expect someone to look critically at my game when i release it. Having an idea and sharing that idea doesn't make you immune to criticism if your idea is complete crap.



I think you should probably take a look at the thread I linked in the other post. There are plenty of posts talking about the dos and don'ts of opening up your game to public feedback. The suggestion is that you set your own content ideas that you plan on implementing anyways as the poll options. Then you do the one they like the most first. Don't let them dictate your own creative process. It ruins the game.



I barely deviated from his plot with the older sister, I dropped the grind, made her punishments more severe, and salvaged his broken as fuck blackmail scenario that wouldn't have worked on the daugher in DMD, let alone his older sister. Maybe it was too hardcore for you, that's fine. Its not necessary.

As for mom, I stuck pretty close to hers as well, only I added depth and story instead of grind. It makes much more sense for the woman who birthed 3 children to not be your little manipulated 1 dimensional cum bucket. I say again, women don't get hypnotized by every big dick they see. The entire premise of your seduction of your mom would be over the moment she saw you naked. Why? because she doesn't see you as a man. You have to fix that. Do you have to do it the way I did? No, but I was trying to stay true to his mechanics. The one thing you could drop is the sister requirement, I just know it would be better for your sisters to praise you around mom, that's all.

I'm gonna come off as arrogant with this comment, I'm not, I simply understand the elements of a good story. Nothing about the grind system with bullshit rewards as presented in MotH is of any value. I'm not trying to salvage it because I like it. I'm offering an alternative to highlight it's weaknesses. MotH has one thing going for it, semi quality renders. its' not special in any way beyond that. None of its gameplay was fun. I wasn't invested in a single character. Stupid fetch quests and boring repetative tasks made playing this game a chore. Fuck the entire format of MotH. Stop sucking up to someone just because they made something and start respecting yourself enough to complain when something sucks.
and that is all your opinion and you are entitled to it, i only the other hand enjoyed the game, i enjoyed doing the pizza job and then juggling the fitness and pizza jobs, i enjoyed the interactions with the mother and sisters and i enjoyed the story. Was there things i didn't enjoy sure but not enough to post about them.

you make references to "Women don't just fall for the dick man, sorry to break it to you." and "I say again, women don't get hypnotized by every big dick they see." and in real life you are right but they also don't "make her beg him to cum inside." when they have sex for the first time...... in real life that is.

As for "Stop sucking up to someone just because they made something and start respecting yourself enough to complain when something sucks." not sure how this applies? and as i said before i really like the game, i don't think it sucks and my points were about the grinding posts, not the story or characters or which scene should be changed. I personally think all the actions in the game server their purpose. if you don't like it that's fine i truly hope you find a game you enjoy and get many hours of happiness from it.
 
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"make her beg him to cum inside." when they have sex for the first time...... in real life that is.
weakest argument I've ever heard. Mine is based in human psychology, yours is groungless assumption of character of the woman in question. The Little sister is exactly the kind of depraved slut that would beg you to do it inside, dying to know what it feels like.

Seriously, there is no possible way, unless you're a masochist or you've only played with cheats, that you actually like playing this game. The cheats are a testament to the weakness of the game. It's not about taste, this game is objectively inferior. That's why your self respect matters. You're allowing yourself to be swayed by sunk cost fallacy, which tricks you into thinking you had to like it. Its the same thing that keeps gamblers gambling.
 

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@morphnet is useless to exchange opinions with someone so arrogant that claims to have the truth and doesn't accept other opinions and tastes. The number of players that MotH has gives you the reason. Maybe we are facing someone who is jealous or envious, nothing more. A clue can be "I offered my take on his game which he decided to make for money". Seems his "brilliants ideas" were not taken into account.
 
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Dude its a porn game. They are not known for realism or great story telling. Ill give you my take on MoTH. MoTH and other games that I support or follow are like b flicks. Movies like sharknado where the plot is ridiculous and the scenes so bad its funny. But you find yourself enjoying it. MoTH isnt a bad game. Its an enjoyable game and the community around it is possibly the best on this site. Faerin is a great dev as far as devs go and he is more than willing to listen to comments and give feedback. If you have issues with him you can easily talk to him about it.
 

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@morphnet is useless to exchange opinions with someone so arrogant that claims to have the truth and doesn't accept other opinions and tastes. The number of players that MotH has gives you the reason. Maybe we are facing someone who is jealous or envious, nothing more. A clue can be "I offered my take on his game which he decided to make for money". Seems his "brilliants ideas" were not taken into account.
You call me arrogant. I talked in psychological terms, made improvements to the game that addressed the issue of grind while still offering a progressive story, and mentioned the money because Morphnet made it sound like he only made the game out of the goodness of his heart. If you'd bothered at all to make an intelligent comment you'd have noticed I've only been around a month as of today.

My problems with games like MotH and their poor mechanics base story and overall crap nature is what has inspired me to become a developer. I'm critical of the game, but I'm not just complaining, I'm taking action in the hopes of fixing the industry that is flooded with these basic sims. You don't have to like me, but you're not earning anyone's respect by kissing Faerin's feet. I'm sure Faerin is a good guy. I'm sure he didn't set out to make crap, but you're not doing him a service by defending him. Criticism makes us better. Blind deference makes us weaker.

Dude its a porn game. They are not known for realism or great story telling. Ill give you my take on MoTH. MoTH and other games that I support or follow are like b flicks. Movies like sharknado where the plot is ridiculous and the scenes so bad its funny. But you find yourself enjoying it. MoTH isnt a bad game. Its an enjoyable game and the community around it is possibly the best on this site. Faerin is a great dev as far as devs go and he is more than willing to listen to comments and give feedback. If you have issues with him you can easily talk to him about it.
The community around the game has nothing to do with the content. I'll repeat what that content is because you've forgotten. Its:

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

There you go, the entire script of Man of the House, and Big Brother for that matter, though I actually give BB the edge on story, because with Eric, your mothers psychological problems, and your aunts schemes there is actually something to do other than convince reluctant women to fuck your boyish body.

That's not enjoyable, its not fun, there's nothing good or great about that. It has a few ok sex scenes but getting to them is like going to work, unless you cheat. But that's just it, you have to cheat to enjoy the game. Its broken and so broken that they admitted it and put in a cheat. You guys are convincing yourselves you liked it because you've put so much time, and possibly money into it that your brain decides it was worth it. Again Sunk Cost Fallacy. Look it up, its a real thing.

The flaws in MotH aren't some subjective thing like, "Oh I don't like NTR." the common complaint with BB. No, the complaints are the grind and the 1 dimensional characters. These aren't things that you should sit back and accept as the standard. We can do better, we do, do better. Look at a game like Depraved Awakenings, each character has a backstory, motivations, desires. Your reasons for interacting with them range. Your choices for how to interact with them have real stakes and consequences. Look at Wicked Choices, that game is a master class in how to write a sex scene. Look at Dreaming of Dana, its a life sim just like MotH, only the characters are actually involved in their relationships to you, there are stakes, you have to make choices.

You can't sit back and tell me that "its a porn game it isn't supposed to be believable." that's like saying that a movie with a fantasy premise doesn't have to ground itself in reality. Movies books and the like all have things that make them work and or things that they rely on but shouldn't (usually) maguffins and deus ex machina for instance. The same can be said for porn games. What MotH does is simulate gameplay and story investment through a repetitive task that ends in a reward. The grind is weak story telling in action. It is a lack of ability to create a reason for these characters to want to fuck naturally so we are going to wear them down with menial tasks. It has to be called out for what it is, TOXIC.

I'm not saying these things to hurt your feelings, hell I don't even want Faerin to be hurt by what I've said. I'm saying it to broaden your mind and show you that there's a right and a wrong way to do things. I guarantee you can come up with a function in a game that you hate. Here, I will help, I'm a huge bethesda nerd. I love me an open sandbox. Skyrim is a fun game, but it sucks in so many ways, Its dumbed down RPG elements ruin some of the magic of earlier games, and the way it literally nerfs magic itself in the game makes it absolutely necessary to learn some combat skills other than magic in the early game without mods. Fallout 4 is even worse, its a series of radiating quests that have no substance. The world design is incredible, but without a quality story to keep you exploring it, like was present in both flalout 3 and even better in Obsidian's New Vegas, you are left getting angry at preston for asking you to work for another settlement or putting up another beacon for tinker tom at the same place you just put a beacon for tinker tom.

Its ok to call out broken mechanics, especially in things you enjoy, because doing so can only make them better. And that is the goal. Make the adult gaming community better. The better we are, the more powerful we become, the less we need platforms like Patreon and the more we can move into a higher quality domain maybe even create a professional class industry like they have in japan. That'll never happen so long as people suck faerin's dick for scraps.
 
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Not read all the posts so appoligies if i go over old ground.

Why is man of the House popular 1 tag incest for some reason that seams to be the defacto at the moment.I stopped playing it at 0.3 felt it was a grind and the Art aint all that, But that just my opinion and i'm not going further than that as some people like it and i'm not going to slate a Dev for trying to put something out their.However IMHO i feel their are far superior games that cross into that Genre out their Dreams of Desire ,Dating my Daughter.to name a couple and more that don't touch the Genre that are very good.I'm not against incest games but with the current climate i feel devs need to think outside the box and put something new on the table.A few Devs have taken up the chalenge and come up with some really good stuff i hope others will follow
 
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You call me arrogant. I talked in psychological terms, made improvements to the game that addressed the issue of grind while still offering a progressive story, and mentioned the money because Morphnet made it sound like he only made the game out of the goodness of his heart. If you'd bothered at all to make an intelligent comment you'd have noticed I've only been around a month as of today.

My problems with games like MotH and their poor mechanics base story and overall crap nature is what has inspired me to become a developer. I'm critical of the game, but I'm not just complaining, I'm taking action in the hopes of fixing the industry that is flooded with these basic sims. You don't have to like me, but you're not earning anyone's respect by kissing Faerin's feet. I'm sure Faerin is a good guy. I'm sure he didn't set out to make crap, but you're not doing him a service by defending him. Criticism makes us better. Blind deference makes us weaker.



The community around the game has nothing to do with the content. I'll repeat what that content is because you've forgotten. Its:

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

There you go, the entire script of Man of the House, and Big Brother for that matter, though I actually give BB the edge on story, because with Eric, your mothers psychological problems, and your aunts schemes there is actually something to do other than convince reluctant women to fuck your boyish body.

That's not enjoyable, its not fun, there's nothing good or great about that. It has a few ok sex scenes but getting to them is like going to work, unless you cheat. But that's just it, you have to cheat to enjoy the game. Its broken and so broken that they admitted it and put in a cheat. You guys are convincing yourselves you liked it because you've put so much time, and possibly money into it that your brain decides it was worth it. Again Sunk Cost Fallacy. Look it up, its a real thing.

The flaws in MotH aren't some subjective thing like, "Oh I don't like NTR." the common complaint with BB. No, the complaints are the grind and the 1 dimensional characters. These aren't things that you should sit back and accept as the standard. We can do better, we do, do better. Look at a game like Depraved Awakenings, each character has a backstory, motivations, desires. Your reasons for interacting with them range. Your choices for how to interact with them have real stakes and consequences. Look at Wicked Choices, that game is a master class in how to write a sex scene. Look at Dreaming of Dana, its a life sim just like MotH, only the characters are actually involved in their relationships to you, there are stakes, you have to make choices.

You can't sit back and tell me that "its a porn game it isn't supposed to be believable." that's like saying that a movie with a fantasy premise doesn't have to ground itself in reality. Movies books and the like all have things that make them work and or things that they rely on but shouldn't (usually) maguffins and deus ex machina for instance. The same can be said for porn games. What MotH does is simulate gameplay and story investment through a repetitive task that ends in a reward. The grind is weak story telling in action. It is a lack of ability to create a reason for these characters to want to fuck naturally so we are going to wear them down with menial tasks. It has to be called out for what it is, TOXIC.

I'm not saying these things to hurt your feelings, hell I don't even want Faerin to be hurt by what I've said. I'm saying it to broaden your mind and show you that there's a right and a wrong way to do things. I guarantee you can come up with a function in a game that you hate. Here, I will help, I'm a huge bethesda nerd. I love me an open sandbox. Skyrim is a fun game, but it sucks in so many ways, Its dumbed down RPG elements ruin some of the magic of earlier games, and the way it literally nerfs magic itself in the game makes it absolutely necessary to learn some combat skills other than magic in the early game without mods. Fallout 4 is even worse, its a series of radiating quests that have no substance. The world design is incredible, but without a quality story to keep you exploring it, like was present in both flalout 3 and even better in Obsidian's New Vegas, you are left getting angry at preston for asking you to work for another settlement or putting up another beacon for tinker tom at the same place you just put a beacon for tinker tom.

Its ok to call out broken mechanics, especially in things you enjoy, because doing so can only make them better. And that is the goal. Make the adult gaming community better. The better we are, the more powerful we become, the less we need platforms like Patreon and the more we can move into a higher quality domain maybe even create a professional class industry like they have in japan. That'll never happen so long as people suck faerin's dick for scraps.
First what you find enjoyable someone else doesn't and vice versa. This isn't a game meant for its story telling like in Depraved Awakenings and its still further behind in updates than BB to even consider giving BB an edge in story telling. You're more than welcome to have your criticism, but you're acting like a pompous asshole. People are going to support games that they enjoy and don't. Its as simple as that. Its what drives the market. Right now a lot of games have incest because people are willing to pay for it. If people wanted to play and pay for a porn game that had NTR or doggy fucking I guarantee you would see games with those fetishes in it. MoTH is just a game you play to kill some time and perhaps have a good time along the way.
 

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First what you find enjoyable someone else doesn't and vice versa. This isn't a game meant for its story telling like in Depraved Awakenings and its still further behind in updates than BB to even consider giving BB an edge in story telling. You're more than welcome to have your criticism, but you're acting like a pompous asshole. People are going to support games that they enjoy and don't. Its as simple as that. Its what drives the market. Right now a lot of games have incest because people are willing to pay for it. If people wanted to play and pay for a porn game that had NTR or doggy fucking I guarantee you would see games with those fetishes in it. MoTH is just a game you play to kill some time and perhaps have a good time along the way.
BB had a better story from the beginning. You're right it's not the same as Depraved Awakenings, but it is the dame thing as Dreaming of Dana which did have a story that made it worth playing. Grind being bad isn't an opinion, its an objective reality. I'm not trying to insult you for playing it, I did too, but I think you're defending a piece of garbage because you've spent so much time on it.
 
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I'll politely disagree with you over BB story telling, but I'm not defending it because of the amount of time Ive played on it. You don't need to lecture me over fallacies. I am simply stating a reason why its popular in the first place. No matter what you do, no matter how amazing a game is for some, the market is where game development is. MoTH is a game that checks all the right fetishes. Renders are good (not the best obviously). Story is lacking, but enough to keep people coming back. Faerin is a solid developer and manages to keep pumping 2 (short) updates a month which patrons like. Instead of one maybe every month to two months. Don't get me started on the amount of people who complain just because they have to wait a month for an update. Its also a reason why some people like him. As for myself, MoTH is a game that I play maybe once every 2 to 3 updates to kill sometime. The grind isn't unbearable, but Id rather deal without it.
 

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I'll politely disagree with you over BB story telling, but I'm not defending it because of the amount of time Ive played on it. You don't need to lecture me over fallacies. I am simply stating a reason why its popular in the first place. No matter what you do, no matter how amazing a game is for some, the market is where game development is. MoTH is a game that checks all the right fetishes. Renders are good (not the best obviously). Story is lacking, but enough to keep people coming back. Faerin is a solid developer and manages to keep pumping 2 (short) updates a month which patrons like. Instead of one maybe every month to two months. Don't get me started on the amount of people who complain just because they have to wait a month for an update. Its also a reason why some people like him. As for myself, MoTH is a game that I play maybe once every 2 to 3 updates to kill sometime. The grind isn't unbearable, but Id rather deal without it.
That's a reasonable response. As I said, I'm not condemning you for playing it, I'm simply critiquing it. I'm justifying the thread's premise, people don't understand how such a simple game is so popular. Its a fair assessment
 

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@morphnet is useless to exchange opinions with someone so arrogant that claims to have the truth and doesn't accept other opinions and tastes. The number of players that MotH has gives you the reason. Maybe we are facing someone who is jealous or envious, nothing more. A clue can be "I offered my take on his game which he decided to make for money". Seems his "brilliants ideas" were not taken into account.
i havent played your updated version game yet but im probably going today since how you are my favorite kinkerbell
 
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BB had a better story from the beginning. You're right it's not the same as Depraved Awakenings, but it is the dame thing as Dreaming of Dana which did have a story that made it worth playing. Grind being bad isn't an opinion, its an objective reality. I'm not trying to insult you for playing it, I did too, but I think you're defending a piece of garbage because you've spent so much time on it.
this may or may not be me trying to rub in peoples faces in but im kinda happy the cancer got finally attacked by pateron seeing how imo the game is complete shit next to dual family bb literately has the most unattractive girls for the renders it uses when you use cheats it makes the game harder and cucking aspect ambushed alot of people back in the day
 

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You call me arrogant. I talked in psychological terms, made improvements to the game that addressed the issue of grind while still offering a progressive story, and mentioned the money because Morphnet made it sound like he only made the game out of the goodness of his heart. If you'd bothered at all to make an intelligent comment you'd have noticed I've only been around a month as of today.

My problems with games like MotH and their poor mechanics base story and overall crap nature is what has inspired me to become a developer. I'm critical of the game, but I'm not just complaining, I'm taking action in the hopes of fixing the industry that is flooded with these basic sims. You don't have to like me, but you're not earning anyone's respect by kissing Faerin's feet. I'm sure Faerin is a good guy. I'm sure he didn't set out to make crap, but you're not doing him a service by defending him. Criticism makes us better. Blind deference makes us weaker.



The community around the game has nothing to do with the content. I'll repeat what that content is because you've forgotten. Its:

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh is that a nipple? and over and over and over and over and over and over and ok I've seen this nipple 20 times now and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ooh a blowjob and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and damn how did he make a blowjob boring and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and finally I got her to have sex with me.. .wait that's it, I don't get to do anything new with her now? huh I guess I'll see about the other girls.

There you go, the entire script of Man of the House, and Big Brother for that matter, though I actually give BB the edge on story, because with Eric, your mothers psychological problems, and your aunts schemes there is actually something to do other than convince reluctant women to fuck your boyish body.

That's not enjoyable, its not fun, there's nothing good or great about that. It has a few ok sex scenes but getting to them is like going to work, unless you cheat. But that's just it, you have to cheat to enjoy the game. Its broken and so broken that they admitted it and put in a cheat. You guys are convincing yourselves you liked it because you've put so much time, and possibly money into it that your brain decides it was worth it. Again Sunk Cost Fallacy. Look it up, its a real thing.

The flaws in MotH aren't some subjective thing like, "Oh I don't like NTR." the common complaint with BB. No, the complaints are the grind and the 1 dimensional characters. These aren't things that you should sit back and accept as the standard. We can do better, we do, do better. Look at a game like Depraved Awakenings, each character has a backstory, motivations, desires. Your reasons for interacting with them range. Your choices for how to interact with them have real stakes and consequences. Look at Wicked Choices, that game is a master class in how to write a sex scene. Look at Dreaming of Dana, its a life sim just like MotH, only the characters are actually involved in their relationships to you, there are stakes, you have to make choices.

You can't sit back and tell me that "its a porn game it isn't supposed to be believable." that's like saying that a movie with a fantasy premise doesn't have to ground itself in reality. Movies books and the like all have things that make them work and or things that they rely on but shouldn't (usually) maguffins and deus ex machina for instance. The same can be said for porn games. What MotH does is simulate gameplay and story investment through a repetitive task that ends in a reward. The grind is weak story telling in action. It is a lack of ability to create a reason for these characters to want to fuck naturally so we are going to wear them down with menial tasks. It has to be called out for what it is, TOXIC.

I'm not saying these things to hurt your feelings, hell I don't even want Faerin to be hurt by what I've said. I'm saying it to broaden your mind and show you that there's a right and a wrong way to do things. I guarantee you can come up with a function in a game that you hate. Here, I will help, I'm a huge bethesda nerd. I love me an open sandbox. Skyrim is a fun game, but it sucks in so many ways, Its dumbed down RPG elements ruin some of the magic of earlier games, and the way it literally nerfs magic itself in the game makes it absolutely necessary to learn some combat skills other than magic in the early game without mods. Fallout 4 is even worse, its a series of radiating quests that have no substance. The world design is incredible, but without a quality story to keep you exploring it, like was present in both flalout 3 and even better in Obsidian's New Vegas, you are left getting angry at preston for asking you to work for another settlement or putting up another beacon for tinker tom at the same place you just put a beacon for tinker tom.

Its ok to call out broken mechanics, especially in things you enjoy, because doing so can only make them better. And that is the goal. Make the adult gaming community better. The better we are, the more powerful we become, the less we need platforms like Patreon and the more we can move into a higher quality domain maybe even create a professional class industry like they have in japan. That'll never happen so long as people suck faerin's dick for scraps.
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At first the grind was on par with BB. Then with the cheats it became very tolerable (at least for me). Grinds just really add game time is all. You grind to get a certain scene. You grind for a certain ítem. Add RNG to a grind and Jesús Christ you best be lucky.
agreed i didnt like it when i didnt have cheats but when cheats came along as well as a couple more updates like at the part when you teach sophie how to give head with ashley the game steadily became one of my top games mostly because i feel he makes the sexiest side characters for the renders he uses
 
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King Monkey Mon

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That's the point exactly. Reading that is what it feels like to play a game in this style.
except no one including me read that comment that replied to me personally tend to skip comments that are either too long or dont really care for
for the record why Man of the House is superior to Big Brother in every single way is Netori vs this song
 
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except no one including me read that comment that replied to me personally tend to skip comments that are either too long or dont really care for
for the record why Man of the House is superior to Big Brother in every single way is Netori vs this song
Your complaint with BB is about content. I find the aunt and older sister very attractive. Mom isn't bad, and while I'm not the biggest fan of little sister, she isn't unattractive. I think it's a horrible game because in spite of its potential, it chose grind over story. I don't think of it as being cucked, as being a cuck is about how you react. If you like watching the women you're involved with get fucked by someone else, you're a cuck. If you run into an enemy who's trying to steal the woman you're with from you and you fight against him, you're not. It's pretty simple. It created an antagonist in the game that wasn't the girls. He failed in 2 ways though. He continued to make the girls antagonists, by implementing heavy grind and silly requirements (like the yoga requirement). Then when it came to Eric he rushed it. He's there and powerful too fast, it made him completely implausible.

Man of the House has no story. There's nothing but grind and fuck with superficial tasks. You help one sister with her homework and she gets curious about sex and leads you on for 3 or more weeks not advancing in a natural way at all because the game is about passing arbitrary point thresholds and not about the natural evolution of a sexual relationship.

You blackmail your older sister with the weakest shit ever, then you cave to her even weaker counter blackmail, I'd love to see her prove you bought her a maid outfit and forced her to wear it. Then you blackmail her again, only this time with her boss, but she suddenly likes it and now she's your little submissive slut. Of course, none of this happens as easily as I've written it, you have to grind to get any of these events to trigger.

Finally you have the mom who literally falls in love with your dick. Women like the way a dick feels, I've never met a woman who genuinely liked the way a dick looks. Oh they might say you have the best cock they've ever seen, but they are doing that because dirty talk is sexy and not because they actually find your cock sexy. Not to mention the fact that you've got nothing to offer your mother in a relationship other than your cock. The little sister needs knowledge, the older sister needs a master, but your mom doesn't, she could go to a bar any night of the week and get cock. She doesn't need yours. Her arch is completely batshit. And you're gonna love this, IT'S ALSO FULL OF FUCKING GRIND.

Seriously, big brother has accepted events, for character motivations, you have to deal with your little sister's reluctance, not to have sex with you, she's ok with that pretty quick, it's about having sex in general, because she's a young virgin with no experience or until recently access to porn. There are stakes, make the wrong move and you're off to military school. Again, BB has grind, but it at least tries to write a story with stakes. MotH is just about you, the sexual deviant, who miraculously convinced both his sisters and his mom to fuck him. There are no consequences. You get caught all the time and go back to business as usual. It's boring, repetitive, and the rewards aren't even worth the effort.