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Yeah, I think it has something to do with the way I created her... last time I am EVER going to imagine a hot girl to be like a hyperactive, chiwawa on speed!I am afraid she already knows exactly where the fridge is and all other edible food stores from earlier scouting foraysUnbelievable that someone can eat that much and be that slim.
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I have NEVER met a woman that couldn't suss out a male's credit card!! Creating one would take a particular skill of fantasy writing that I just don't have!!
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Hyped about a completed game i somehow missed......like 7mins in aaaaaaaaand its NTR.
C'mon. at least put a tag on it ( ' -')
C'mon. at least put a tag on it ( ' -')
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@goatwhisperer3 If you had followed the thread when that part was released you would know:
a) it is not NTR but cheating;
b) it is something that is needed for later plot developments likely in book II;
c) you will have the power and possibility to do something about this situation at that later moment. What you do about it will be your choice though.
Besides there are enough other lovelies around, that may be well be much more interesting as your current wive. (now dont go thinking about giving Syrina another love interest Jack, then we might have a little fight that we can make up later with a beer or twelve)
a) it is not NTR but cheating;
b) it is something that is needed for later plot developments likely in book II;
c) you will have the power and possibility to do something about this situation at that later moment. What you do about it will be your choice though.
Besides there are enough other lovelies around, that may be well be much more interesting as your current wive.
(now dont go thinking about giving Syrina another love interest Jack, then we might have a little fight that we can make up later with a beer or twelve)
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@goatwhisperer3 If you had followed the thread when that part was released you would know:
a) it is not NTR but cheating;
b) it is something that is needed for later plot developments likely in book II;
c) you will have the power and possibility to do something about this situation at that later moment. What you do about it will be your choice though.
Besides there are enough other lovelies around, that may be well be much more interesting as your current wive.
I'm fully aware of the difference between ntr and cheating.... not sure about u tho
Wife? Don't know anything about that. Like I said, i was 7min in before my virtual niece was choking on another dudes cock.
lost interest after that.
It's not NTR... it was not an act of adultery committed against a spouse or cuckoldry. Does it illicit a response from players, ABSOLUTELY just as it was intended to do and though the MC does something about it when he learns of it, it is however, still NOT NTR.
Thanks for trying it though.
(ugh been writting on the next game too much, that I had to edit the shit out of this stupid post)
Thanks for trying it though.
(ugh been writting on the next game too much, that I had to edit the shit out of this stupid post)
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Ah sorry @goatwhisperer3 I thought you was a fast clicker and already had reached another part. Well for the Claire situation b and c are still true even if b happens earlier as book 2. The new side game will deal for a big part about the ramifications of what MC decides to do about his nephew and agreed she was absolutely not cheating in that part and it is the darkest moment of the game likely until now.
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it felt quick to me. its pretty much at the beginning but i need to read some of the text aswell dude. the elven part took a moment^^
Ah sorry Goatwhisperer I thought you was a fast clicker and already had reached another part. Well for the Claire situation b and c are still true even if b happens earlier as book 2.
about the b (needed for later) and c (do something about it later) thingy still being true.....
might be true, but that doesn't affect it in any way does it?
b)
needed for the story or optional may affect the reasoning behind placing a certain scene, but not what it is. the fetish itself doesn't change by the way its woven into the plot... (like.... MC fucking a dog would be bestiality, no matter if the dog is important to the plot, turning into a human at the end of the game or just being a stray)
c)
doing something about it in a later moment..... thats not how things work^^
even if MC creates a time machine and prevents it the second time or figures out it was a dream later on.... kinda too late.
either u prevent it the very first time so it never happened or u deal with the consequences. You cant have it happen and later do something about it.
there a sayings like "once the child fell into the well.." or "u can't get the toothpaste back into the tube..."
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Be aware even if this was the first time it was shown, storywise it is canon that this was a situation that happened before between those two with the encouragement of the third party present.
Jack explained before why he made it that graphic and why it is important for the rest of the story. One of the main reasons is to explain who and what Claire will be in the rest of the story and also to generate quite a lot of hate for William. Just saying it happened is not always enough for that and true this game has a few very dark moments that you are warned for in the tags. Indeed MC will deal with the situation later and has his own way to kinda make sure it will not happen again. MC is not almighty and even if he had known what had happened with Claire for years he would not have had the power earlier to help her.
The murder tag is missing though even if it will not concern a main character in book I. No promises though for what Jack and his team planned for later
Jack explained before why he made it that graphic and why it is important for the rest of the story. One of the main reasons is to explain who and what Claire will be in the rest of the story and also to generate quite a lot of hate for William. Just saying it happened is not always enough for that and true this game has a few very dark moments that you are warned for in the tags. Indeed MC will deal with the situation later and has his own way to kinda make sure it will not happen again. MC is not almighty and even if he had known what had happened with Claire for years he would not have had the power earlier to help her.
The murder tag is missing though even if it will not concern a main character in book I. No promises though for what Jack and his team planned for later
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Saying the shown act took place earlier, like even before MC and the girl met would only absolve MC himself in the most literal way. Thing is, this is a game. Even tho the player (ideally) identifys with the MC, they are not the exact same.
The fact that it was "made to ABSOLUTELY illicit a response from players, just as it was intended to" shown graphic and in possible anticipation to focus negative emotions of the player towards other chars makes it clear the dev was aware of that.
If i meet a girl tomorrow on the street im aware she most likely won't be Maria Theresa, a virgin without backstory who just waited for me.
Just as MC knows the characters in his world have their own story.
That doesn't apply exactly the same in games tho.
It depends on the correlation of space and time.
In the real world for me, and for MC in his world, there is a distance regarding time (it happened "long" time ago) and room (it didn't happen right here but in another place/city whatever) so u also gain emotional distance.
In a game, there may be such distance for MC, but the player sees it all in the same place (his screen) and at the same time (a few hours of playtime wouldn't really qualify as foretime yet).
Thats why the dev can wake/create a reaction in us, since he knows we r still "in that situation" no matter if its a flashback a time leap forward or even totally out of MCs perception.
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True and it was intended as such to create that reaction in most of us, not a fap reaction though but more a disgust reaction.
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Sorry wrapping up a 12 hour day of work and writing on the next game, so really tired and going to be brief so I can go and relax and have some dinner with the wife.
As an Otaku, I can honestly tell you that that wasn't NTR. So no tag needed.
There is a difference between OOC information and IC information, the event took place for players to witness OOC so that they (the player) could formulate a strategy in how they would address the situation when the MC learns about the situation.
Time for me to go and eat, relax and spend some time with the wife, as I wouldn't want her to cuckold me!!
As an Otaku, I can honestly tell you that that wasn't NTR. So no tag needed.
There is a difference between OOC information and IC information, the event took place for players to witness OOC so that they (the player) could formulate a strategy in how they would address the situation when the MC learns about the situation.
Time for me to go and eat, relax and spend some time with the wife, as I wouldn't want her to cuckold me!!
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After I've read this definition about
The scene with Claire is for me rape and abuse. Later a similar scene is there, but this scene is "somehow" consensual - The discussion about this scene would be a bit overboard. Also it would be a great spoiler for you...
Overall, I see Jack's game definitely not on "the dark side". But it is also not a sugar coated, happy go lucky story with a very big happy end and ESBR EC rating - if we ignore the sex content.
The story has it share of dark themes, but not for the themes itself but rather for story purpose. So I would give it a "Mature" rating for this.
If you want to have some lighter entertainment, I can not recommend you this game.
If you are interested in a unique game, with a rather good story, english and "unique", lovely characters then give it a try.
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, I also see the only NTR scene later in this game.The scene with Claire is for me rape and abuse. Later a similar scene is there, but this scene is "somehow" consensual - The discussion about this scene would be a bit overboard. Also it would be a great spoiler for you...
Overall, I see Jack's game definitely not on "the dark side". But it is also not a sugar coated, happy go lucky story with a very big happy end and ESBR EC rating - if we ignore the sex content.
The story has it share of dark themes, but not for the themes itself but rather for story purpose. So I would give it a "Mature" rating for this.
If you want to have some lighter entertainment, I can not recommend you this game.
If you are interested in a unique game, with a rather good story, english and "unique", lovely characters then give it a try.
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Wish I could add something, but you have once again, covered it as well(if not better than)I could. That scene was visceral, and yet completely unknown to the MC. WE will react, but the protagonist can only do so when he is enlightened to the 'games' of the family, and further so, of that particular branch of the clan. Jack has/does want some response from his players(readers, read earlier for book info), and I quote "bad things happen to good people". I will not recount the more than adequate arguments on definitions of colloquialisms. If the scene was moving, it did its job. If you can not move foward and rectify said situation to MCs'(yours) satifaction then this is not for you. As with other scenes that some found untoward, there is a way around or a reckoning. My two pence.
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Its not about a scene being too dark (the bar for that starts somewhere around gore for me but thats another story) or the difference in amount of information MC and player get.
last comparison, since i dont want to derail the thread too much or cheapen the game for others.
A game in which the player controls his MC the whole game as usual but everytime MC fucks someone the scene is only shown through a keyhole.
--> I would plead for a "voyeur" tag even tho MC is in the action involved. Cause it would be a tag for the player.
The boyfriend/husband/LI whatever doesn't even have to show up particularly in a NTR story. Sometimes he is just mentioned in the dialogs of the video/manga/game whatever or implied even more subtile. Same goes for the player. We are not directly addresed, but as Clair is literally the first girl showing up and affection toward us (MC and therefore player) she naturally becomes a LI.
(That could happen even independent of MC. Like MC saying "Claire sucks, don't care about her" but the player does care...)
So that was that. Tough luck I wasn't able to dodge the NTR but its not worth to hold on to it for too long either.
kudos for dev to complete his game and gl hf to people playing. I'll show myself out.
last comparison, since i dont want to derail the thread too much or cheapen the game for others.
A game in which the player controls his MC the whole game as usual but everytime MC fucks someone the scene is only shown through a keyhole.
--> I would plead for a "voyeur" tag even tho MC is in the action involved. Cause it would be a tag for the player.
The boyfriend/husband/LI whatever doesn't even have to show up particularly in a NTR story. Sometimes he is just mentioned in the dialogs of the video/manga/game whatever or implied even more subtile. Same goes for the player. We are not directly addresed, but as Clair is literally the first girl showing up and affection toward us (MC and therefore player) she naturally becomes a LI.
(That could happen even independent of MC. Like MC saying "Claire sucks, don't care about her" but the player does care...)
So that was that. Tough luck I wasn't able to dodge the NTR but its not worth to hold on to it for too long either.
kudos for dev to complete his game and gl hf to people playing. I'll show myself out.
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You will be missing out @goatwhisperer3 or be very wise to stop right now then. This game is not about love interests or get all girls, but about the story. There will be some love interests, sex and possibly even a harem ending but the game revolves around the story. Not making the girls happy or even MC.
In the end it will be about winning the war and choosing what side you will be on and who your allies will be. There should also be plenty of sex and possibly even love in the end, but it is not a game where you should make your choices to reach high points with a certain girl or girls. If want that I can absolutely advise Where the heart is, The Visit and a lot of other games though.
In the end it will be about winning the war and choosing what side you will be on and who your allies will be. There should also be plenty of sex and possibly even love in the end, but it is not a game where you should make your choices to reach high points with a certain girl or girls. If want that I can absolutely advise Where the heart is, The Visit and a lot of other games though.
Whoo woo... about to start what will likely be another 12 hour day, I am sooooo excited... (yeah, not really).
Right or wrong, I will be honest, I just don't have the time to argue with someone, who already has their mind made up about what is/what isn't NTR...
I thank you for taking the time to try our game, for sharing your thoughts on the subject and for doing so calmly, rationally and with consideration, @goatwhisperer3.
I knew, when making this game, that it wouldn't be for everyone... that certain scenes and content would ruffle some people's feathers, so I can understand when you say you want to bow out. You at least gave it a try and for that, I am thankful to you for.
I wish you the best in your search of games and also want to wish you a Happy Holidays.
Be safe in your travels,
~Jack
Right or wrong, I will be honest, I just don't have the time to argue with someone, who already has their mind made up about what is/what isn't NTR...
I thank you for taking the time to try our game, for sharing your thoughts on the subject and for doing so calmly, rationally and with consideration, @goatwhisperer3.
I knew, when making this game, that it wouldn't be for everyone... that certain scenes and content would ruffle some people's feathers, so I can understand when you say you want to bow out. You at least gave it a try and for that, I am thankful to you for.
I wish you the best in your search of games and also want to wish you a Happy Holidays.
Be safe in your travels,
~Jack