ggmmyqsb

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Excellent work, I love it.

Brief comment:
I haven't played the original version, but as far as I'm currently experiencing the refine version, I'm very satisfied with the plot, background and characters. Prostitution management is a good way to play. Compared with ordinary VN, it is more immersive and playable, which I am very willing to see. After all, we are not reading novels. In addition, I appreciate your use of background music and sound effects in the game, which is often ignored by producers. In general, I'm looking forward to the finished version of it, and I'm also looking forward to every update and addition of more gameplay.

Suggestions:
1. For the business part of prostitutes, I recommend the following games for reference: (1) alicesoft's はるうられ~校内赤線区域~ (2) ミッドナイトプレジャー's ビフレストの魔物娼館 (3) ゲームコロン's ウラレタウン. These games are both playful and pornographic masterpieces. I hope they will enlighten you.

2. For the part of Yujo, I think the はるうられ~校内赤線区域~ is a good reference object. In addition to the heroine and supporting actress who have a plot related to the protagonist, other women who are simply used to make money and maintain the operation of the prostitution hall can be set as public faces (the same face) or pure black contours to reduce the guilt of players when selling them (after all, there is no plot and no interaction, for players, they are just items).

3. In order to make the game more challenging, I suggest increasing the negative states that may occur to women tourists. For example, Yujo will be tired after continuous work, and mental breakdown will occur if they continue to work in a state of fatigue. For Yujo who do not use safety measures and shoot in a dangerous period, there is a risk of pregnancy, and Yujo who receive guests with sexually transmitted diseases will have the probability of suffering from sexually transmitted diseases, etc.

4. Similarly, for guests with different preferences, Yujo in different states can get different money bonuses. For example, some guests like to collapse, some guests like to be pregnant, and so on.

5. From my personal preference, I hope the author can add (1) body modification (tattoo, perforation, lactation, etc.). After all, Yujo belong to MC and MC can use them at will. (2) Perspective and H data statistics. This part can be used to display the training of Yujo, such as the percentage values of mouth, chest, genitals and buttocks. And the H data of the Yujo, such as the number of sex with MC, the number of receptions, the number of oral sex, and so on. This part can bring players more sense of achievement. (3) Complete pregnancy system. Considering the era background in the game, contraception is a relatively difficult thing. The game can shorten the total process of pregnancy and reduce the risk of pregnancy. At the same time, set a dangerous period for each female swimmer, and display the pregnancy probability of the day in percentage.

6. Since the background of this game is set in ancient Japan, there will be certain era limitations on the dress and hairstyle of the characters in the game. For example, the costumes and hairstyles of different characters in the game, as well as the etiquette of character communication (such as bowing, kneeling, etc.). As an East Asian, I have a natural sensitivity to this aspect. Of course, this is not a big problem. After all, ancient Japanese began to speak English :ROFLMAO:. I hope the author can polish this aspect well when you have time and energy, so as to make this work more representative.

7. Can we train three main female roles? I'm looking forward to seeing kisayo and nekomi being trained.

These are all my thoughts and suggestions at present. Thank you for reading to the end. Please forgive me for the possible language errors in the above, because I am not a native English player. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished version of this game as soon as possible and have supported you on patteron. I wish you all the best.
 

Riujin

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I still haven't played this "refined" version of the game since I wanted it to catch up with the original one, but I heard it changed some things... Does anyone know what changes have been done? Thanks!
 

Konstantinus

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I still haven't played this "refined" version of the game since I wanted it to catch up with the original one, but I heard it changed some things... Does anyone know what changes have been done? Thanks!
First of all you can not change anymore, if you are Ronin, merchant or something else at the start. You are automic a ronin.
Second the Retainer of your father has now a daugther named Otsu. She is one of the three possible Romance Characters.
Third now the game has three specific choosen romance options with Otsu, Kisayo und Nekomi. The Oirans are now only friends with benefits.
Fourth there are no more sex scenes with clients. Only the romances and the Oirans with Yaichi
Fifth Mei the red haired girl that you bought from her rude grandfather whas now rescued by Fudeyo before Yaichi came back and is now her lesbian lover.
Sixth Fudeyo has now black hair and is instead the only loyal working oiran left in the red petal because Yaichis father protected her from her family
Seventh so far the game has no random fighting scenes but this will be changed with next update.
Eigth you will now instead get additional oirans by defeating your enemies and so steal back the old employes.
Ninth there is currently no option to employ Yujus.
Tenth Koneko Toujo is now helping Yaichi not because she does not like Tomomitsu as he is threatening to overcome her but because she want Kisayo as her toy and so to save the red petal Kisayo actually put her freedom on mortgage. Koneko is now actually the most rich woman in whole Nippon and could easily destroy Tomomitsu if she really want it.
 

Riujin

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First of all you can not change anymore, if you are Ronin, merchant or something else at the start. You are automic a ronin.
Second the Retainer of your father has now a daugther named Otsu. She is one of the three possible Romance Characters.
Third now the game has three specific choosen romance options with Otsu, Kisayo und Nekomi. The Oirans are now only friends with benefits.
Fourth there are no more sex scenes with clients. Only the romances and the Oirans with Yaichi
Fifth Mei the red haired girl that you bought from her rude grandfather whas now rescued by Fudeyo before Yaichi came back and is now her lesbian lover.
Sixth Fudeyo has now black hair and is instead the only loyal working oiran left in the red petal because Yaichis father protected her from her family
Seventh so far the game has no random fighting scenes but this will be changed with next update.
Eigth you will now instead get additional oirans by defeating your enemies and so steal back the old employes.
Ninth there is currently no option to employ Yujus.
Tenth Koneko Toujo is now helping Yaichi not because she does not like Tomomitsu as he is threatening to overcome her but because she want Kisayo as her toy and so to save the red petal Kisayo actually put her freedom on mortgage. Koneko is now actually the most rich woman in whole Nippon and could easily destroy Tomomitsu if she really want it.

Thank you a lot for the in-depth answer! I'm glad that mostly minor things have changed, I'm truly curious if the story would be as enjoyable as it was before. I remember LOVING this little gem when I played 8.0 version of it; such great art and good potential!

A more small question though: as the sex scenes with clients been removed to not anger the "NTR" haters? Or is that a true change of design? I remember enjoying those as they were extremely funny and silly!
 
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Konstantinus

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Thank you a lot for the in-depth answer! I'm glad that mostly minor things have changed, I'm truly curious if the story would be as enjoyable as it was before. I remember LOVING this little gem when I played 8.0 version of it; such great art and good potential!

A more small question though: as the sex scenes with clients been removed to not anger the "NTR" haters? Or is that a true change of design? I remember enjoying those as they were extremely funny and silly!
Your welcome. I can only speculate and you have to ask Fidless for clarity but I think it is kind of both.
First of all as the game has now designated romance routes it focus to the relationship of Yaichi with the women he protects.
In one scene later Fudeyo even says to Yaichi, that she actually has to spend effort to see there relationship only like Lord and Retainer and not like Master and servant as Yaichi is so awesome, that she would else fall in love with him and that would be unfair to the girls that already set their eyes on him as with what they are ready to sacrifice.
Second because I think they set away the focus from training but to romance, they did not took over the scenes with the customers.
As they would take away the attention from Yaichi to characters that in the end do not matter.
Oh and as I forgot if they where in the original work here here one more thing.
Customers can be rough and sick. For rough customers you need to have already 100% rough play and the trait for it so the oiran does not get sick from the sex.
If the customer is sick it can likely be contagainous but if you have maxed out the hot spring, you will likely not get sick from it.
 
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nemlehet

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Apr 17, 2017
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Excellent work, I love it.

Brief comment:
I haven't played the original version, but as far as I'm currently experiencing the refine version, I'm very satisfied with the plot, background and characters. Prostitution management is a good way to play. Compared with ordinary VN, it is more immersive and playable, which I am very willing to see. After all, we are not reading novels. In addition, I appreciate your use of background music and sound effects in the game, which is often ignored by producers. In general, I'm looking forward to the finished version of it, and I'm also looking forward to every update and addition of more gameplay.

Suggestions:
1. For the business part of prostitutes, I recommend the following games for reference: (1) alicesoft's はるうられ~校内赤線区域~ (2) ミッドナイトプレジャー's ビフレストの魔物娼館 (3) ゲームコロン's ウラレタウン. These games are both playful and pornographic masterpieces. I hope they will enlighten you.

2. For the part of Yujo, I think the はるうられ~校内赤線区域~ is a good reference object. In addition to the heroine and supporting actress who have a plot related to the protagonist, other women who are simply used to make money and maintain the operation of the prostitution hall can be set as public faces (the same face) or pure black contours to reduce the guilt of players when selling them (after all, there is no plot and no interaction, for players, they are just items).

3. In order to make the game more challenging, I suggest increasing the negative states that may occur to women tourists. For example, Yujo will be tired after continuous work, and mental breakdown will occur if they continue to work in a state of fatigue. For Yujo who do not use safety measures and shoot in a dangerous period, there is a risk of pregnancy, and Yujo who receive guests with sexually transmitted diseases will have the probability of suffering from sexually transmitted diseases, etc.

4. Similarly, for guests with different preferences, Yujo in different states can get different money bonuses. For example, some guests like to collapse, some guests like to be pregnant, and so on.

5. From my personal preference, I hope the author can add (1) body modification (tattoo, perforation, lactation, etc.). After all, Yujo belong to MC and MC can use them at will. (2) Perspective and H data statistics. This part can be used to display the training of Yujo, such as the percentage values of mouth, chest, genitals and buttocks. And the H data of the Yujo, such as the number of sex with MC, the number of receptions, the number of oral sex, and so on. This part can bring players more sense of achievement. (3) Complete pregnancy system. Considering the era background in the game, contraception is a relatively difficult thing. The game can shorten the total process of pregnancy and reduce the risk of pregnancy. At the same time, set a dangerous period for each female swimmer, and display the pregnancy probability of the day in percentage.

6. Since the background of this game is set in ancient Japan, there will be certain era limitations on the dress and hairstyle of the characters in the game. For example, the costumes and hairstyles of different characters in the game, as well as the etiquette of character communication (such as bowing, kneeling, etc.). As an East Asian, I have a natural sensitivity to this aspect. Of course, this is not a big problem. After all, ancient Japanese began to speak English :ROFLMAO:. I hope the author can polish this aspect well when you have time and energy, so as to make this work more representative.

7. Can we train three main female roles? I'm looking forward to seeing kisayo and nekomi being trained.

These are all my thoughts and suggestions at present. Thank you for reading to the end. Please forgive me for the possible language errors in the above, because I am not a native English player. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished version of this game as soon as possible and have supported you on patteron. I wish you all the best.
Do you have an english title for game 1 and 3? I know the 2nd one its Monster Club Bifrost or something similar, its indeed a very very good brothel management game. I like this genre but there is only a few good games out there I know of.
 

ggmmyqsb

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Do you have an english title for game 1 and 3? I know the 2nd one its Monster Club Bifrost or something similar, its indeed a very very good brothel management game. I like this genre but there is only a few good games out there I know of.
Here, please enjoy them :p
(1) Haru Urare
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(3)SoldGirl Town
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But I haven't found the English translation of the plot of these two games so I'm afraid it will be difficult for you to understand the plot of the game
 
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Ive-11

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so what happen to the first one? those this gonna merge or just make new one then delete the first one n progressing this one?
 

Konstantinus

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The first version stays like this as a Museum Version just like WoW Classic while the Refine version will be continue to be developed.
 
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