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fidless

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Hello Fidless. Just one of those people playing your great game. I just finished reading up on your post, deferring the release of your next update, come January next year. You emphasized on the fact that you will be changing so many things that, the save games we have would most likely be invalidated. You did say you would provide a save game for it; so I will take you at your word and wait for your update and saved game, hopefully saved on the day after the 12k quest is completed.

As I said, your game is great. Wouldn't be playing otherwise.

As far as I can see, the biggest mistake you are GOING TO make, is depriving your players of their continuity. You will anger your players by depriving them their successes in grinding away against the game's difficulties. (There are cheats, but not everyone does that.) If you can find a satisfactory compromise and keep the old save games valid, the better it will be - from a player's perspective, of course.

The thing is, I appreciate a good, hard game, because it is fun. By providing me a saved game, it isn't fun anymore. I didn't play that save game you are providing me. You did. I am sort of disconnected from it. I know I explained this rather well, so I know you understand where I'm coming from.

The SECOND BIGGEST MISTAKE you committed, and you should be jailed for this, is spelling courtesan as, courtisan. You can find this very serious crime against humanity in the overview screen, which is accessed from the office, or training room. Once on that screen, see upper left corner, in employee ledger section. Shame on you!
Hey!
I understand that this may cause some frustration, but I had to add tools necessary for further development for years to come. The earlier it's done, the better. I should have predicted this, but as far as the progress of game development is concerned, all these additions increased capabilities of what I can achieve with my game now as well as helped me to improve the current state of the game. It's finalized and 99% this won't happen again. Stoping over little pebble and depriving players of the full potential of the game is a bigger crime especially this early stage in development and I believe in the long run this will pay off very well.
To further address the concerns, you can skip the intro now forwarding to the day after opening the pleasure house, though not recommended. Small changes to the story have been made, but important ones making the story more cohesive.
And yes, I'll provide a 30d savegame for anyone not interesting in repeating the content.
Thank you for playing my game. I hope you'll forgive this little misstep of mine.
 

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Hello Fidless. Just one of those people playing your great game. I just finished reading up on your post, deferring the release of your next update, come January next year. You emphasized on the fact that you will be changing so many things that, the save games we have would most likely be invalidated. You did say you would provide a save game for it; so I will take you at your word and wait for your update and saved game, hopefully saved on the day after the 12k quest is completed.

As I said, your game is great. Wouldn't be playing otherwise.

As far as I can see, the biggest mistake you are GOING TO make, is depriving your players of their continuity. You will anger your players by depriving them their successes in grinding away against the game's difficulties. (There are cheats, but not everyone does that.) If you can find a satisfactory compromise and keep the old save games valid, the better it will be - from a player's perspective, of course.

The thing is, I appreciate a good, hard game, because it is fun. By providing me a saved game, it isn't fun anymore. I didn't play that save game you are providing me. You did. I am sort of disconnected from it. I know I explained this rather well, so I know you understand where I'm coming from.

The SECOND BIGGEST MISTAKE you committed, and you should be jailed for this, is spelling courtesan as, courtisan. You can find this very serious crime against humanity in the overview screen, which is accessed from the office, or training room. Once on that screen, see upper left corner, in employee ledger section. Shame on you!
Honestly, I was going to trashtalk on those points, but I guess the author already followed through.

Hey!
I understand that this may cause some frustration, but I had to add tools necessary for further development for years to come. The earlier it's done, the better. I should have predicted this, but as far as the progress of game development is concerned, all these additions increased capabilities of what I can achieve with my game now as well as helped me to improve the current state of the game. It's finalized and 99% this won't happen again. Stoping over little pebble and depriving players of the full potential of the game is a bigger crime especially this early stage in development and I believe in the long run this will pay off very well.
To further address the concerns, you can skip the intro now forwarding to the day after opening the pleasure house, though not recommended. Small changes to the story have been made, but important ones making the story more cohesive.
And yes, I'll provide a 30d savegame for anyone not interesting in repeating the content.
Thank you for playing my game. I hope you'll forgive this little misstep of mine.
A true player will develop new strategy for the New Start, no worries. But if you are looking forward for testings and reports, that might cause some hindrances. As for his second point, no one really cares about spelling unless this is a triple A title...
 

gunzen

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sAGE advice?

Why the hell would you want waifus? Waifus are jealous bitches. Realistically, they may allow you to assemble a small harem of sorts, but then what? There are all the girls there at the Red Petal.

You can place your favored ladies as entertainers, instead of courtesans. Maybe allow the option to train ordinary whores to courtesan caliber. I think someone suggested this already.

What you need are advisors. One good example of an advisor who is not waifu - the lady in white on day one. She'd be a great political advisor, and you wouldn't have to mind her much, if at all.

Still a few spelling mistakes from improvements; Beautiful is the spelling of beutiful. Beauty beuty

NEO

The developer always wants to perfect his product. If not, then he's just making money off them blokes who pay for the game, and wouldn't care enough to fix mistakes. From what the developer has written down in his posts, he/she/it does care for the game - a lot.
 
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Sorry for the double post.

Played game up to day 80 without cheats. Results as follows:

Building upgrades completed at day 72

Sexual Skills:
Night Service Skills of all 4 courtesans are at S+. Fetish Skills are at A.
Normal Skills:
The rest of the skills average out at B.

Once buildings all upgraded, switched all courtesans to studying skills. Popularity of Red Petal began to drop off. Was forced to return the courtesans back to work. I think you need a minimum of 2 courtesans and 1 entertainer to keep increasing popularity. This leaves you with one courtesan to skill up. Paying 500 for the learn bonus blessing isn't worth it with only 1 learning. Dismal.

The skill build up is too much of a grind. If you're not using this game to accrue in app purchases, why that much level of grinding? It's just too time consuming. Is there a legitimate reason for that grind? I wanted to go up to a 100 turns, but seeing as 20 days would not accomplish much of anything, skill wise, i decided to just quit, and look for cheats.

That's not playing anymore. It's tedious and torturous - hence, no fun. Save game attached for your analysis.
 
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fidless

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You have to understand the game had only 1 update after release. I think it already offers 3-5 hours of gameplay (without grinding, skip day/event/etc.), but once you reach the end of the content, the only thing left is to grind. That's why I added a message on day 31 advising the players to close the game and wait for new content. :) Don't force yourself to play it, wait when it's enjoyable experience again :)

Sexual training will be changed/improved. You don't need S+ atm to successfully run the business. I always adjust the formulas with the consideration of "end-game". And to maintain the "Famous" reputation rank will always be hard (probably will rename it to something like "Legendary". To keep this rank, you'll have pretty much focus on improving rep since rep loses a percentage on a daily basis (famous = ~-172/well known = ~-72 without the positive inflation). "Well-Known" is a standard good reputation.
 
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gunzen

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Well,maintaining reputation won't really be a problem with more characters incoming. An additional courtesan will add to the rep of the red lip cafe. That, plus any good decisions made by the managers of the red lip, the prestige of advisors (if you implement them), and the possibilty of getting visits, and regular patronage from VIPs. I mean if the Daimyo visits you, you're made for life. The problem is the stage.

At the moment, it only allows one performer. Seeing as the blonde has the best skills, I assigned her there. Thing is, no matter her skills, nor how much she earned (hit a max of 1.9k), I still lost money. The stage, as it is right now, requires either an A, or S+ talent, to turn out a profit. That, or the number of performers can be increased. Maybe it will be increased because of the oncoming erotic shows. So, a warning to new players, keep the stage at level 1.

On hindsight, do we have a wrecking ball so the stage can be demolished?
 
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Neo Nocturne

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Well,maintaining reputation won't really be a problem with more characters incoming. An additional courtesan will add to the rep of the red lip cafe. That, plus any good decisions made by the managers of the red lip, the prestige of advisors (if you implement them), and the possibilty of getting visits, and regular patronage from VIPs. I mean if the Daimyo visits you, you're made for life. The problem is the stage.

At the moment, it only allows one performer. Seeing as the blonde has the best skills, I assigned her there. Thing is, no matter her skills, nor how much she earned (hit a max of 1.9k), I still lost money. The stage, as it is right now, requires either an A, or S+ talent, to turn out a profit. That, or the number of performers can be increased. Maybe it will be increased because of the oncoming erotic shows. So, a warning to new players, keep the stage at level 1.

On hindsight, do we have a wrecking ball so the stage can be demolished?
You finally got two things right. One thing I can agree on is the Stage. I am also having the same problem as I had a loss even if the Stage is at max or if I had trained the related skill to a higher tier. Skill building is a problematic issue but I am assuming the game might allow players to play for 2-3 years (in-game time), I pushed one skill to B rank in 10 days or so and I am happy with that. And I stopped by Day 36 as I have upgraded nearly everything I need to maximize profit. I am in for the story not for the grind.

As for the spelling issue you linger on, I do know the developer cares A LOT for the game, but as for someone who should be giving constructive advise in a proper manner, you don't start with the bone picking issues at first, spelling and minor flaws are the finishing touch at the final stage for modification or correction. You should start with the major flaw like how The Stage is generating a negative profit even at maximum upgrade or some other things you feel strongly negative about the game (personally, not having the option to let the ladies perform for money from the start does make me feel odd, I thought maybe as the owner, you are allowed to let them work as performers first and when you are in huge debt, that's when you get to unlock the cruel way of earning money; I understand this is an adult forum, many people have fetishes so my less popular view might not be a valid one after all).
 
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FIDLESS;

Thanks for acknowledging my observations, and the fact that you said you would adjust the trainings. I know you believe that you set them just right, but you would still adjust them anyway. Thank you for that.

edit: I hi-jacked your game sig. i play some games that are somewhat popular. I'm yer walking ad, no charge. I believe in your game, even as I disagree with a few of its details. Now, sorry about the next part.

HALO

I have my own way of doing things. So do you. I don't criticize you. I was content to be ignorant of your existence. But you criticize the way I write? In a porn game thread? Which is supposed to be about the game, and not me.

I was gonna leave it at that, but you piss me off.

Let's see. So I should have just shut up about the error in spelling thing? Do you know how many devs care enough to ask for error alerts? Since this dev is overhauling the whole interface, he needs to know what errors the current one has.

As for my way of doing things, that's the way I am. Not gonna change it for some forum dude who thinks he knows better.

What, are you some dude who's acquired wisdom in the short time you've been trolling a porn forum? Mr. I know how you should do things, therefore you should do them my way? I insist!

Is that what you are? If you aren't then why did you bother to criticize me?
 
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gunzen

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No need to get personal. Please, refrain from insulting each other.
Btw. The stage is underdeveloped. I probably forgot to check the profits.
I assigned Fudeyo to act as entertainer. Her skills are A, B, B, A, S+, and A. Stage was earning -492 or thereabouts every night. Stage is maxed out.

Thanks for your time.
 
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LucaJin

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Hi, downloaded the game pretty recently I'm having trouble saving the game. I've tried the quicksave during dialogue and that didn't work and when I try to save it'll hit the save but it won't give me a confirmation or anything won't even let me load the game. Anyone know any fixes for this?
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It fixed itself nevermind. Don't even know how it did sorry to waste time with this comment.
 
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fidless

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Hi, downloaded the game pretty recently I'm having trouble saving the game. I've tried the quicksave during dialogue and that didn't work and when I try to save it'll hit the save but it won't give me a confirmation or anything won't even let me load the game. Anyone know any fixes for this?
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It fixed itself nevermind. Don't even know how it did sorry to waste time with this comment.
It's about permission. If that happens, run the game with administrator rights.
For the macOS version to work (and save), try placing the game into the application folder.
 

subzero22

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No way to repay dept causing my reputation to go down. I'm not talking about the 13,000 gold end of month debt but the general dept you cause when you mistakenly go into negative gold. I got the money to repay it. I searched threw every place and talked to all the people I could not seeing any option anywhere to repay the debt.
 

fidless

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No way to repay dept causing my reputation to go down. I'm not talking about the 13,000 gold end of month debt but the general dept you cause when you mistakenly go into negative gold. I got the money to repay it. I searched threw every place and talked to all the people I could not seeing any option anywhere to repay the debt.
"Tasks" should turn red when you go into the debt, goes back to the green button again when clicked (just an indicator that there's something new there). There should be an option to pay off your debt. Let me know if it doesn't show, that means there's a bug.
 
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"Tasks" should turn red when you go into the debt, goes back to the green button again when clicked (just an indicator that there's something new there). There should be an option to pay off your debt. Let me know if it doesn't show, that means there's a bug.
Thank you so much it worked. Can't believe I missed that. Now to try and save 13,000 gold pieces for that other debt lol.

Edit: Almost forgot to say I'm loving the game so far. Keep up the good work :)
 
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LucaJin

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It's about permission. If that happens, run the game with administrator rights.
For the macOS version to work (and save), try placing the game into the application folder.
Thanks for the explanation it's all working good now. :D
 

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