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Currently yes because it has been longer developed before the developer thought they needed to remake it and give it a clear focus.
 

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This game have more content than the REFINE version?
Yes, in fact it has far more content than many 'completed' games on this site. There's literally dozens of hours of content and it's worth replaying trying different strategies as the game is actually quite engaging. It's actually unfair in a sense for this to be labeled 'abandoned' as you can get so far with it there's not much more you'd actually need to see, outside a culmination of various storylines you can imagine resolutions to anyway.
 
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Yes, in fact it has far more content than many 'completed' games on this site. There's literally dozens of hours of content and its worth replaying trying different strategies as the game is actually quite engaging. It's actually unfair in a sense for this to be labeled 'abandoned' as you can get so far with it there's not much more you'd actually need to see, outside a culmination of various storylines you can imagine resolutions to anyway.
To be honest, some releases back it even had more content, namely animated scenes (e.g. when training girls or visiting the shrine) that have been replaced by still images for whatever reason. I seem to remember that even some scenes during night visits of your girls were previously animated (at least those special contract ones). Those animations are even missing in the remade game until now. I am quite disappointed...
 
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To be honest, some releases back it even had more content, namely animated scenes (e.g. when training girls or visiting the shrine) that have been replaced by still images for whatever reason. I seem to remember that even some scenes during night visits of your girls were previously animated (at least those special contract ones). Those animations are even missing in the remade game until now. I am quite disappointed...
I whas there and I can explain. Where on the first time they where fine, you had to repeat them over and over and as they where not skipable they became later annoying. Maybe he delated because implementing skipping turned out to much of a problem?
 

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I whas there and I can explain. Where on the first time they where fine, you had to repeat them over and over and as they where not skipable they became later annoying. Maybe he delated because implementing skipping turned out to much of a problem?
That may be a reason (and a poor one) but no excuse... What do you play a porn game for? The animations. Still images are so last century...
 
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To be honest, some releases back it even had more content, namely animated scenes (e.g. when training girls or visiting the shrine) that have been replaced by still images for whatever reason. I seem to remember that even some scenes during night visits of your girls were previously animated (at least those special contract ones). Those animations are even missing in the remade game until now. I am quite disappointed...
Heh, I remember that too. I lurk but I seldom post. I recall that whole dust-up and didn't care as much as you or others but in the end thought the result better for the game, as repeated un-skippable animations irritated me after a while. Eventually I wanted a way to skip all the extended animations as well, as after seeing them fifteen times while trying out different strategies they got tedious too. Animations are not my number one reason for playing erotic games, at least most of the time.
 
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Don't say "you" when you mean "I". Animations don't even make the top 10 things I play porn games for.
Heh, I remember that too. I lurk but I seldom post. I recall that whole dust-up and didn't care as much as you or others but in the end thought the result better for the game, as repeated un-skippable animations irritated me after a while. Eventually I wanted a way to skip all the extended animations too, as after seeing them fifteen times while trying out different strategies got tedious too. Animations are not my number one reason for playing erotic games, at least most of the time.
Removing animations because the dev is unable to make them skippable is the worst thing to do. That cannot really be a problem if you know how to put a button in the game and how to evaluate an if statement. If you cannot even do that as a dev...
 
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Removing animations because the dev is unable to make them skippable is the worst thing to do. That cannot really be a problem if you know how to put a button in the game and how to evaluate an if statement. If you cannot even do that as a dev...
You know... While the training system with mini-games were changed, I made changes to animate scenes myself instead of using premade default boring stuff, plus expanded training options by half with more in-depth texts.
Try to animate 30 scenes and see it for yourself how many more you can do before burnout. Then multiply it by 4, 6, 8?
The decision was made to focus on story sex events that are more exciting than just repeating the same animation loop 20 times clicking on screen.
A game like mine takes a looooot of time to make, but expectations of update frequency are the same as linear VN.
Some logical decisions have to be made sometimes or fall into the usual game development cliche of never finishing the project.
I chose to cut some features to make this project finish line achievable.
Although, it has to continue in a different form as "Refine" now I guess.
 
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Yes, in fact it has far more content than many 'completed' games on this site. There's literally dozens of hours of content and it's worth replaying trying different strategies as the game is actually quite engaging. It's actually unfair in a sense for this to be labeled 'abandoned' as you can get so far with it there's not much more you'd actually need to see, outside a culmination of various storylines you can imagine resolutions to anyway.
yeah thanks everybody for your inputs, I played the refine version but now I'm thinking about giving this old version a try as well, I liked the playing style of this one, mixing rpg fighting stuff with the lewd stuff, I think it has a lot of potential, hope it keeps on coming with new content
 

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Removing animations because the dev is unable to make them skippable is the worst thing to do. That cannot really be a problem if you know how to put a button in the game and how to evaluate an if statement. If you cannot even do that as a dev...
Truthfully I don't know, I've little idea how to code or make these games, I was just detailing why I wasn't as upset as others they were removed. I don't even remember them that well, though I do recall other elements that were removed like having to buy wood and steel for brothel improvements, the mercenaries you could hire and if I recall correctly in the very early versions you could whip incompetent courtesans. I think in the end he made a good choice on those removals, though I did miss my merc crew who I'd created some head-canon for as they were never really developed. After a tough day smacking around Tommie's crew it was nice to go back to the Red Petal and gangbang Mei or whoever was at that stage of the training.
 

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yeah thanks everybody for your inputs, I played the refine version but now I'm thinking about giving this old version a try as well, I liked the playing style of this one, mixing rpg fighting stuff with the lewd stuff, I think it has a lot of potential, hope it keeps on coming with new content
After a look at your favorites list I can say I have played most of them and this version of Wicked Rouge has more content than most (if not nearly all) on that list, and would rank fairly high on it as well in my opinion. I downloaded the refined version once and recall it seemed to take forever to get past the introduction and once I got there not much had been finished so I decided to wait until there was more content. I'm about to give it a go again now.
 

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After a look at your favorites list I can say I have played most of them and this version of Wicked Rouge has more content than most (if not nearly all) on that list, and would rank fairly high on it as well in my opinion. I downloaded the refined version once and recall it seemed to take forever to get past the introduction and once I got there not much had been finished so I decided to wait until there was more content. I'm about to give it a go again now.
yes I guess I'm gonna have to update that list actually :sneaky:
 

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You know... While the training system with mini-games were changed, I made changes to animate scenes myself instead of using premade default boring stuff, plus expanded training options by half with more in-depth texts.
Try to animate 30 scenes and see it for yourself how many more you can do before burnout. Then multiply it by 4, 6, 8?
The decision was made to focus on story sex events that are more exciting than just repeating the same animation loop 20 times clicking on screen.
A game like mine takes a looooot of time to make, but expectations of update frequency are the same as linear VN.
Some logical decisions have to be made sometimes or fall into the usual game development cliche of never finishing the project.
I chose to cut some features to make this project finish line achievable.
Although, it has to continue in a different form as "Refine" now I guess.
I appreciate your effort and I would like to point out that I like the game (still). But I am not asking to provide more animations. Just to keep those that were already there. I really was disappointed to see them all gone out of a sudden...

And if you are going to facepalm everybody voicing well justified critizism it's not going to help, you know?
 

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I appreciate your effort and I would like to point out that I like the game (still). But I am not asking to provide more animations. Just to keep those that were already there. I really was disappointed to see them all gone out of a sudden...

And if you are going to facepalm everybody voicing well justified critizism it's not going to help, you know?
How many years has it been since that was changed? Two? Maybe even three? What was it about those specific animations that you found so appealing? It's not like there's none left in the game, since that time he has probably added in dozens more animations of greater length and quality, why pine for those long lost animations when there was so many more added since?
 

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You know... While the training system with mini-games were changed, I made changes to animate scenes myself instead of using premade default boring stuff, plus expanded training options by half with more in-depth texts.
Try to animate 30 scenes and see it for yourself how many more you can do before burnout. Then multiply it by 4, 6, 8?
The decision was made to focus on story sex events that are more exciting than just repeating the same animation loop 20 times clicking on screen.
A game like mine takes a looooot of time to make, but expectations of update frequency are the same as linear VN.
Some logical decisions have to be made sometimes or fall into the usual game development cliche of never finishing the project.
I chose to cut some features to make this project finish line achievable.
Although, it has to continue in a different form as "Refine" now I guess.
Hey man, how old are you, twelve? Go on facepalming me however you like. You know, it all counts the same towards the reaction score.
 

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How many years has it been since that was changed? Two? Maybe even three? What was it about those specific animations that you found so appealing? It's not like there's none left in the game, since that time he has probably added in dozens more animations of greater length and quality, why pine for those long lost animations when there was so many more added since?
OK I already learned that one is not allowed to have an opinion in this thread. Sorry to have bothered you. If you must know, I did not complain earlier because I thought that maybe in the reboot the game would get those animations back. Now I dared mention it.
 
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OK I already learned that one is not allowed to have an opinion in this thread. Sorry to have bothered you. If you must know, I did not complain earlier because I thought that maybe in the reboot the game would get those animations back. Now I dared mention it.
I'm honestly curious about the questions I asked, as I noted before I don't remember them all that well, but what I do remember is seemingly endless inquiries regarding them, to the extent that if you enter "animations" into the crappy search engine on this site you come up with seven or so pages of posts, many regarding those particular animations.

It's like this thread is being trolled by the Animations Preservation Society or something!
 

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I'm honestly curious about the questions I asked, as I noted before I don't remember them all that well, but what I do remember is seemingly endless inquiries regarding them, to the extent that if you enter "animations" into the crappy search engine on this site you come up with seven or so pages of posts, many regarding those particular animations.

It's like this thread is being trolled by the Animations Preservation Society or something!
I think I answered that one. Seeing the attitude of some people around here I do not wonder how those discussions could escalate so easily.
 
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