hakarlman

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no shot you just linked two dogshit games :KEK:
Karryn's Prison is not dog shit. It's one of the most successful porn games of all time, next to Wild Life. It's innovation is way ahead of 99.9% of porn games. The game uses shitty RPGMaker, yet has generated MASSIVE $$$ with a 2 man team FFS, that's a huge success. This game deserves to be studied by someone as brilliant and innovative as AdeptusSteve, because he can take those ideas and make them better, or come up with something entirely new. If not for Wild Life, then perhaps for a future game.

Kingdom of Deception has A LOT of things it did right, but also a lot of things it did wrong. The point of linking AdeptusSteve to KOD is so he can learn from its mistakes and successes, but why? Because KOD shares a lot of similiarities with what AdeptusSteve is writing. I'm not implying Steve is a bad writer, no way, I've seen what he's written and it reminds me a lot of KOD. KOD has a Tavern & Brothel, and what Steve is writing is very similar to KOD, it would give him valuable insight into what works and what doesn't. It's CRITICAL. This recommendation is CRITICAL IMO.

Studying story driven porn game competition IS NEVER WRONG.
 
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If they don't allow more in-depth character customization (or even importing characters from other games to existing rigs) and modding capabilities, I personally don't see it topping other sandboxes like Illusion games, which are far more customizable
Illusion games are a pain in the ass when it comes to the camera. You can't build your own places there like in Wild Life, you can't have a cinematic scene with 100+ cams. Wild Life has real dicks and pussys, not some fan-uncensor stuff that looks like from Playstation 2, like a plastic attachment that doesn't even match the skin color of the male characters. And in terms of animations and graphics Wild Life is light years ahead.

I just installed Honey Select 2 with the fat better repack couple of days ago and uninstalled it bored again after 2 days of playing the game, creating some characters and scenes in the studio mode.
 

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i just want Maya to have more fun in sanbox adventures by meeting new characters and new creatures & aliens from time to time,
so she, koodie and shey can , eventually, get pregnant afterwards in the village affairs
(however, sadly, dev team already said pregnancy methods will not be implemented in this game) :cautious:
 
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Illusion games are a pain in the ass when it comes to the camera. You can't build your own places there like in Wild Life, you can't have a cinematic scene with 100+ cams. Wild Life has real dicks and pussys, not some fan-uncensor stuff that looks like from Playstation 2, like a plastic attachment that doesn't even match the skin color of the male characters. And in terms of animations and graphics Wild Life is light years ahead.

I just installed Honey Select 2 with the fat better repack couple of days ago and uninstalled it bored again after 2 days of playing the game, creating some characters and scenes in the studio mode.
you can build environments using studio items (or even in unity if you're talented).

vnge is a illusion game plugin that does the cinematic scene with 100+ cams thing no problem, so thats not a very good objection.

also better penetration is a plugin that creates somewhat acceptable genital collisions, and the pp does in fact correctly match the color of character. (does wildlife have collisions or are the animations lined up and matched? real question here)

i think your problem with illusion games is that there is a bit of learning to do, but its really not much.

100% of your post about hs2 is incorrect
 

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i just want Maya to have more fun in sanbox adventures by meeting new characters and new creatures & aliens from to time,
so she, koodie and shey can get pregnant afterwards in the villages (however, sadly, dev team already said pregnancy methods will not be implemented in this game) :cautious:
Not as a mechanic for the story mode no. But ive already been playing with the idea of having it as a cosmetic sandbox outfit option.
 

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a) Mayor’s Mansion in Umbar is a great splendorous map!

b) (and any new colonial bases with dropships landing will be extremely welcome in this game!)

c) any new improvements towards a much better in-game combat system will also be extremely welcome

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d) now, with the introduction of the new character in the game, 'Karu', a high council member of the Sky Village,
all players and gamers from wildlife community can now be able to create and produce , at will, their own mini incest sandbox short story lines by summoning and placing:

Master Karu = maya's grandpa
Dr. Grace Williams = maya's mother
Max = maya's brother
Shey/Futa Shey = maya's aunts
Maya = daughter
Kodiee = maya's sister
Jenny/Futa Jenny = maya's cousin
Ryan/Bol/Yason = maya's dad
Sethro = maya's uncle
Iljah = maya's boss
Shiva = maya's youngest sister
Grok, Corbac, Rawn, Tali, Rasha, Djablo, Krall and Zuri = maya's favorite pets and lovers
Salivarius = night village villain flesh eater


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Illusion games are a pain in the ass when it comes to the camera. You can't build your own places there like in Wild Life, you can't have a cinematic scene with 100+ cams. Wild Life has real dicks and pussys, not some fan-uncensor stuff that looks like from Playstation 2, like a plastic attachment that doesn't even match the skin color of the male characters. And in terms of animations and graphics Wild Life is light years ahead.

I just installed Honey Select 2 with the fat better repack couple of days ago and uninstalled it bored again after 2 days of playing the game, creating some characters and scenes in the studio mode.
All of these things are possible, you just didn't know how. I agree that WL animations are better, but that's the only thing it has over Illusion studios (for now?)
 
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All of these things are possible, you just didn't know how. I agree that WL animations are better, but that's the only thing it has over Illusion studios (for now?)
Then let me phrase this differently: In Wild Life you can do all these things already out of the box without diving into guides and downloading repacks and 3rd party mods. It's all natively done within the game which minimizes any possible issues, and it's easily accessible. And I don't think the poor camera system of illusion games will ever change. Together with the natural genitals of characters in Wild Life, WL is lightyears ahead.
 
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I've actually thought about this.

Remember that scene in Game of Thrones, where Tyrion and Bronn have to fight? Then Brawn is like, "now is the best time for a woman", after they've killed men. Killing and sex can mix, but the the world is civilized now. Most of us have lost that killer instinct because we're more civilized. We can't relate to how killing competing alpha males makes your dick hard, then you fuck and rape women, those days are OVER and I'm glad.

Let's say each country in the world was a warrior nation, and killing other males to win over the women was the norm. THEN it would make sense for wild life single player to have killing mixed with porn, but we're not savages anymore.

I can't relate to killing then being exposed to a sexual scenario. The killing is a turn off. Robbing a human or anthromoprh body of blood goes against the erotic nature of sex and reproduction; porn, erotica.

Skyrim + porn mods is a perfect example of what I"m talking about. You go and kill bandits, you kill dragons, then you go to the brothel and jerk off, but what if you don't want to cum then? You'll go and do main quests right? The main quests should have some erotic element, so during the whole time you're playing you're aroused from a level of 10% to 100% then back down to 10%, but the erotic stimulation your feeling should NEVER drop to 0%. This is an advanced concept that experienced porn game players will understand. That's what going to happen in Wild Life single player. You'll go from aroused to not-aroused, aroused to not aroused, when it should be going from strongly aroused to lightly aroused. (THIS IS GOLDEN INFORMATION, I'd never give this information out for free to anyone unless the game was so damn good).

ALso, if the devs did read this post and the one above, they could just keep these concepts in mind for their next game.
I agree, actually. In a porn game you should never be so focused on something else that you almost entirely forget that you're playing it for pleasure.
no shot you just linked two dogshit games :KEK:
I agree with this too though. They're dogshit in my opinion too but that's just my preference at the end of the day.
For me, no animation, especially => no playthrough
Illusion games are a pain in the ass when it comes to the camera. You can't build your own places there like in Wild Life, you can't have a cinematic scene with 100+ cams. Wild Life has real dicks and pussys, not some fan-uncensor stuff that looks like from Playstation 2, like a plastic attachment that doesn't even match the skin color of the male characters. And in terms of animations and graphics Wild Life is light years ahead.

I just installed Honey Select 2 with the fat better repack couple of days ago and uninstalled it bored again after 2 days of playing the game, creating some characters and scenes in the studio mode.
Illusion games are best with mods. And that said, with mods, you can currently make scenes that look better than Wild Life. But that takes graphics mods, high resolution textures, editing models for specific scenes and LOTS of minute object placement.
And you CAN absolutely build things the way you can in Wild Life. Nevermind you can literaly mod in any object you can possibly imagine if you have the skills. You could even make a whole map in blender and import it as an object, and I don't know if that's possible in WL (genuinely, idk).
you can build environments using studio items (or even in unity if you're talented).

vnge is a illusion game plugin that does the cinematic scene with 100+ cams thing no problem, so thats not a very good objection.

also better penetration is a plugin that creates somewhat acceptable genital collisions, and the pp does in fact correctly match the color of character. (does wildlife have collisions or are the animations lined up and matched? real question here)

i think your problem with illusion games is that there is a bit of learning to do, but its really not much.

100% of your post about hs2 is incorrect
And about penetration: in the studio (which is the real equivalent of WL) you can literaly use Hooh's scripted dicks to achieve literaly any penetration combined with Clip Manager plugin. Is vaginal, anal and oral not enough? Use individual colliders set to interact with precisely the colliders you want to target and you can even bend bones if that's what you're into (haven't tested it, but saw it in some other people's scenes)
Then let me phrase this different: In Wild Life you can do all these things already out of the box without diving into guides and downloading repacks and 3rd party mods. It's all natively done within the game which minimizes any possible issues, and it's easily accessible. And I don't think the poor camera system of illusion games will ever change. Together with the natural genitals of characters in Wild Life, WL is lightyears ahead.
Fair point. But accesibility often means lesser customisability and in WL that's definitely the case for now.
Can't wait to see the developments though
 

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Illusion games are best with mods. And that said, with mods, you can currently make scenes that look better than Wild Life. But that takes graphics mods, high resolution textures, editing models for specific scenes and LOTS of minute object placement.
And you CAN absolutely build things the way you can in Wild Life. Nevermind you can literaly mod in any object you can possibly imagine if you have the skills. You could even make a whole map in blender and import it as an object, and I don't know if that's possible in WL (genuinely, idk).
Yeah but these are things I don't attribute to Illusion Games. We're almost in the realm of "just use Unity/Unreal Engine and make your own with Blender" here. Sure, if we always look how far we can take something that game that's most open wins, but only because it's possible it doesn't mean that the majority of players would enjoy it that way. I had fun learning the sandbox tools from Wild Life because it's one cohesive tool. The huge repack with dozens of different mods from different creators for Honey Select 2 did however put me off.

It's to me way more enjoyable to just load up the sandbox and get creative right away. And comparing both games in a fair way, in terms of what they have to offer out of the box - not even considering that Wild Life isn't even finished yet-, Illusion can't keep up.

If I use Honey Select 2 with 1000 mods however, I could as well use DAZ3D or Virt A Mate right away.
 

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Yeah but these are things I don't attribute to Illusion Games. We're almost in the realm of "just use Unity/Unreal Engine and make your own with Blender" here. Sure, if we always look how far we can take something that game that's most open wins, but only because it's possible it doesn't mean that the majority of players would enjoy it that way. I had fun learning the sandbox tools from Wild Life because it's one cohesive tool. The huge repack with dozens of different mods from different creators for Honey Select 2 did however put me off.

It's to me way more enjoyable to just load up the sandbox and get creative right away. And comparing both games in a fair way, in terms of what they have to offer out of the box - not even considering that Wild Life isn't even finished yet-, Illusion can't keep up.

If I use Honey Select 2 with 1000 mods however, I could as well use DAZ3D or Virt A Mate right away.
That's also a fair point buuut still, making a game from scratch would take a lot more than it takes to make an animation in HS2. I actually looked into it myself not long ago due to being frustrated with Studio Neo 2, but it was just...overwhelming trying to find my way around Unity and Unreal Engine. It's crazy how much boilerplate I'd need to implement to just be able to drop in some scenes and characters and start animating in Unity. Sure a lot of stuff is already there but DAMN there's a lot more to do that Studio Neo 2 already has
 

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Yeah but these are things I don't attribute to Illusion Games. We're almost in the realm of "just use Unity/Unreal Engine and make your own with Blender" here. Sure, if we always look how far we can take something that game that's most open wins, but only because it's possible it doesn't mean that the majority of players would enjoy it that way. I had fun learning the sandbox tools from Wild Life because it's one cohesive tool. The huge repack with dozens of different mods from different creators for Honey Select 2 did however put me off.

It's to me way more enjoyable to just load up the sandbox and get creative right away. And comparing both games in a fair way, in terms of what they have to offer out of the box - not even considering that Wild Life isn't even finished yet-, Illusion can't keep up.

If I use Honey Select 2 with 1000 mods however, I could as well use DAZ3D or Virt A Mate right away.
I don't care about comparing them "fairly", I was just saying that currently HS2 offers far more customization than WL. I don't see myself using WL sandbox (as it is right now) for a long time, since it's far more limited compared to HS2 or KK (and you don't even particularly need to know how to use all the mods, since you can just download a scene made by someone else and change it around a bit). This is why I wish WL sandbox had more options in terms of character customization or even modding
 

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As I said, I'm mainly talking about character customization and modding capabilities
You just said you wouldn't use the WL sandbox since it would be far more limited. But the WL sandbox lets you "program" your own game. You can write dialouges, creates branches, use player input, move objects, design quests and so on and so forth. That's why I am asking what of these things you can do at Illusion but not in WL.

In terms of character customization Illusion is far ahead (thanks to other people who did all the work). But nevertheless I've created some of the hottest adult game chars I've ever seen in Wild Life.
 
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Hey everyone, hope you're doing well!
It's been another week and I wanted to share some updates with you all from the discord server -

We're going through a bit of a server re-branding at the moment and have changed our name to the Wild Sanctum.
It fits into a castle theme and has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

We've also added some new channels, including promo and Twitter update panels for our fellow Wild Life content creators. I'm planning on expanding this in the future with presentationsof your own WL content, so let me know if you're interested!

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Some new content was also added, which I've already shared with you guys. Hoping there will be more additions in the future.

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Finally, there's some new content in the archives in the library section. If you're interested in importing models or want some fun trivia and tips for beginners, then it might be worth checking out.

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Hey everyone, hope you're doing well!
It's been another week and I wanted to share some updates with you all from the discord server -

We're going through a bit of a server re-branding at the moment and have changed our name to the Wild Sanctum.
It fits into a castle theme and has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

We've also added some new channels, including promo and Twitter update panels for our fellow Wild Life content creators. I'm planning on expanding this in the future with presentationsof your own WL content, so let me know if you're interested!

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Some new content was also added, which I've already shared with you guys. Hoping there will be more additions in the future.

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Finally, there's some new content in the archives in the library section. If you're interested in importing models or want some fun trivia and tips for beginners, then it might be worth checking out.

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Thanks for being a part of the Wild Sanctum community!
YES! This is so delicious! (and a l0t of fun mixing all those new discord elements together!)
Nice ships into the game also! Let´s make huge mega sex party placing sensual pairing animations upon those galleons with Maya and furries friends! (y)
 

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Not as a mechanic for the story mode no. But ive already been playing with the idea of having it as a cosmetic sandbox outfit option.
Btw in case youre wondering...
I shared this on our discord (which is free to enter btw) as a bit of a preview on what it might look like.

" NOTE: This does NOT mean pregnancy will be a game mechanic, this is purely sandbox cosmetic. been playing around with a sandbox cosmetic outfit to make pregnant belly because why not and it would probably make many people happy"
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Btw in case youre wondering...
I shared this on our discord (which is free to enter btw) as a bit of a preview on what it might look like.

" NOTE: This does NOT mean pregnancy will be a game mechanic, this is purely sandbox cosmetic. been playing around with a sandbox cosmetic outfit to make pregnant belly because why not and it would probably make many people happy"
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So what you're saying is that pregnancy is going to be a game mechanic, got it.
 
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