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All true. But why play games at all, then. Try it out without mod first. Where is the fun if you know the results.
And game over, yes. But there is an autosave at the last decision.
I don't have anything against WT mods. Why should I. But I try out the game first before I ask for a mod.

I mean no offense.
well

i say always if i make my mods :
it´s not the necessarity - it´s the feasibility
people can use it or not -
no one should judge people who use things like this at singleplayer games
i cheat the hell out at singleplayer strategie-games - after i played 1or2x without :ROFLMAO:
 

SinAppeal

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Anyone please help me, i have a problem from chapter 3 and how to fix this?
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seems like you used a unofficial mod, by someone else. that is the most common issue why saves and game is broken
i don't recommend using wt mods that aren't official :HideThePain:
What is the game that he has as a wallpaper on his monitor at the beginning of the game?
the game is called damaged goods
i was the artist of that game, which isn't existing anymore.

In the Carmine-Tiara's park running event, after Carmine hurts her ankle, the name tags on the dialog boxes are exchanged (as if Tiara was the hurt one) and it changes to right ones after the MC arrives.
cool, thanks for sharing!
i change the code :)

Ch 6 mac pls?
since the thread and the game was updated without my knowledge, this is unfortunately not my fault.

I would like to give you the best quality and functionality.
so ask the staff if only I should / can / may update the game.

my request for this was unfortunately rejected so far.
although i provide regular public updates.

but i think it is the only reasonable solution. rather wait a few days more and get a working game experience, than just bugs and crashes, because the game is uploaded from somewhere with corrupt code.

but that are only my 2cents
 
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SinAppeal will there be paths with multiple females.
Game does not feel like a full Harem but can we be with 2 ladies for 1 path.
And if so will there be consequences later & can you advise which females can be on same path like maybe Rachel & Carmine or Mia & Kinsey etc
 

SinAppeal

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This is from "pure" game coming: the name tag is OK, the name itself given by the MC is not.
good point

So, for my taste, Rachel is way too offensive. I have for my first playthrough a pure Mia path to use without being an ass to the other women. And Rachel was a massive pain in the ass. I mean, I understand that all is fair in war and love, and she has the resources, but this is too much. If I met a woman who behaved like that, I'd move to gain a lot of ground, very quickly.

Why cant i replay the seen scenes in the gallery?
gotcha,

of course, rachel is the currently somewhat encroaching MILF. but have we gotten to know her properly so far?
do we know her story. Do we really know everything about her in order to rush to judgment?

i think we should look at other / new chapters and then make a decision.
 
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SinAppeal

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SinAppeal will there be paths with multiple females.
Game does not feel like a full Harem but can we be with 2 ladies for 1 path.
And if so will there be consequences later & can you advise which females can be on same path like maybe Rachel & Carmine or Mia & Kinsey etc
it's planned for the future but i can't spoiler too much
:PogChamp:

but something similiar, yeah
 
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SinAppeal

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After playing this chapter I got the feeling the writer woke up one day and decided to make this a sort of harem asap and this was like a prelude to execute that idea. The shop owner encounter, Ash encounter, Rachel sending nude pic when I forgot how many times I rejected her already. Ash, that for "some reason" I forced to got to coffee with and I kind of rejected her earlier, told her that NO, we don't have unfinished business. I was forced to compliment her, asked her, for "some reason", about her plans for the weekend... among other questions. Could have been solved with a question: "Do you want to go to the coffee with her?" I have the feeling that this is being written as it goes according to what people want/ask for. That's the feeling I got from this chapter. It's coming to be one of those games where all the females are enthralled by the MC for a reason that no one knows. I'll keep playing out of curiosity and while I'm not forced into any relations.

thank you and good luck.
This is 90s Telenovela at its best. "Reich und Schön" ("The Bold and The Beautiful").
kartolas, Mortarion and Mamonetti I agree. Something has to happen.

It seems that most of the Decisions are a check if you like to see the CGs or not. Example Bathroom scene, Rachel did act as if something has happened this night regardless of my decision.
The only difference I am aware off is If I am on the Mia route. The Computer repair scene is with her. Else it is with Rachel.
Rachel has Zero points from me and send me a nude. It dose not make sense.
The Bathroom scene. Why did I go in? How is knock and yell: "Rachel, Breakfast is ready."

As I said a few days ago in this very thread, something Fishy goes on. I don't believe that anything regarding Rachel happen at random.
Even the scene with Ash. When did she have the Time to remove her Panties. Sorry, I believe the car accident was arranged. Maybe Ash is sent by Rachel, or she wants to get in a better position. Every thing screams for me that it was planned.
His broken pipe in the Bathroom. Exactly after she wasn't able to deliver his new suite personally. And of course, he can stay the weekend. Again, she has zero points in my walkthrough. The game don't care.

Carmine scene with Tiara. I think it was meant to show us she isn't that bad of a mother. For me, it doesn't deliver on that. At the end, it was two women jogging. As I said, Carmine has a Mountain to climb, and I am not even sure if she made the first step. Honestly, this scene gives me nothing. I am a bit disappointed.
The decision. SinAppeal I knew critique is hard to chew. But why? Why should the MC like Carmine at this point. Maybe after the talk with her. Big Maybe from me.

At this point and I am sorry. This Story is missing a plot. The Story is there to deliver us beautiful renders of beautiful girls. But I don't get where this is going at. And that is my Problem. It is a VN. If I want Porn, I watch Porn.

What is Rachel's motive? Why did Mia leave the East Coast? What is the MCs place in all that? Where does he want to go? Sorry, but the MCs is a side character at the moment.

Rachel: "Come with me, carry some files!"
MC: "Ok"
Rachel: "I buy you a new and expensive suite!"
MC: "OK"
Carmine and Rachel: "No, stay here, my BELOVED daughter has no problem with you seeing her and embarrassing herself for the fun of us two old ladies! And we love how awkward it feels for you!"
MC: "OK"
Rachel: "You Stay here this weekend!"
MC: "OK"
Ash: "Let's go to the Café"
MC: "OK"

It seems unbelievable hard to write a relatable MC. For a lot of devs.

There is no Story Arc visible.
The shopping scene is a side story arc, or could be. Perhaps evolve on that and bring it to an end. So we could understand Carmine and Tiaras Relationship better. But this jogging scene was not enough.
Bring in arcs, concentrate on them and bring them to an end. And motivation for the characters.
Otherwise, Rachel has no Personality but just an agenda. I want him. Period. Why? Because I want him.

I like the character of the young women, and ladies look beautiful.

Sorry If that what I said sounded too harsh. I will still follow you because I love this thread and see the potential in the game. You have it in your own hand to convince people like me in the future.
It seems that you are trustworthy and deliver on constant updates with good amount of content.
So don't take it personally, I wouldn't have written so much If I'm hating your game.
hard and honest criticism is always good. and i must honestly confess that you also help me a lot.

even if it is of course difficult to swallow in the first moment.

every dev probably thinks of himself that what he is delivering is the best and greatest.

but most of the time it's not. this confession is hard and brutal. of course, a lot of hard work goes into every update.

nevertheless, the most important thing is that in the future i put myself on the player's side and put myself in his shoes. that's the only way i can make the game even better.

indeed, i'm still "green behind the ears". that's how they say it in my country. so i'm more of a rookie without any notable successes. but i'm trying to do my best every day and learn step by step from my mistakes. that's why i thank you deep in my heart for the honest feedback.

and i hope to convince you in the future as well.

i have to agree with you on some scenes. the timing and the suspense/content arc needs to be done better.

the chapters need to be a bit more balanced. you're certainly right about that.

Carmine and Rachel didn't exactly cover themselves with glory in chapter 4. treating poor Tiara wasn't very friendly. so they both still have a lot to do right.

But there are also reasons why the scene is the way it is.

of course, i don't want to spoil anything here. but there will be a conclusion at some point.

we shouldn't always see rachel as a sex-hungry monster. she has her moments, yes. but we as players have a choice. if we don't like her, we can't desire her. even if she should annoy someone.

and who knows, maybe she'll develop into a heartbreaking character in the future. but i think she'll keep her hard shell for a while, which the mc has to crack first.
 
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indeed, i'm still "green behind the ears". that's how they say it in my country. so i'm more of a rookie without any notable successes. but i'm trying to do my best every day and learn step by step from my mistakes. that's why i thank you deep in my heart for the honest feedback.
Glad you take it that way. Green behind the ears we use here as well.
Could it be we are from the same country?;)

Let's have a little Fan talk, then. That's always nice.

hard and honest criticism is always good. and i must honestly confess that you also help me a lot.

even if it is of course difficult to swallow in the first moment.

every dev probably thinks of himself that what he is delivering is the best and greatest.

but most of the time it's not. this confession is hard and brutal. of course, a lot of hard work goes into every update.
I know and believe me, I would feel the same. In my Job I make mistakes too or things don't work out like I have planned.
How we deal with it makes us the Person we are.
I remember an Expression from my Grandma: "Wem die Küche zu heiß ist, der sollte nicht zum Koch werden." --> "If the Kitchen is too hot for you, you should become a cook."

F95 is a Hot kitchen but on the other side Patreon or Discords are like bubbles with zero to nothing critical there. I think the truth lays in the middle.

You can handle it! I am sure.

nevertheless, the most important thing is that in the future i put myself on the player's side and put myself in his shoes. that's the only way i can make the game even better.
I think that's the way. At last, that's what my literature teachers back in the days always have taught me.

"XY, we are now on page 4". Why did your characters do what they do? I did hate school.;)

You should stick to your plan, of course. The Danger is the so-called "writer's bias". I don't know how it is called in English. You as writer know what will happen. The story lays in front of you. We as player have no idea. For you, everything makes sense. For us, not so much or not at all. For you, Rachel is a loveable person. For us not. We haven't seen that yet.

We see the world as MC. We are in his head. Some are only readers. Some are gamers. Gamers want to immerse themselves. I don't talk about realism, no. It's a Porn erotic game. I want sex and I knew stuff go wild pretty fast. But believability is the core. Which leads to...

of course, rachel is the currently somewhat encroaching MILF. but have we gotten to know her properly so far?
do we know her story. Do we really know everything about her in order to rush to judgment?

i think we should look at other / new chapters and then make a decision.
We only can judge what we have seen so far. Can we?

You say we should make a decision on her later. The Problem is, we made our decision in game already. Do you plan a way back? Don't answer. Don't spoil it, just take it in consideration.

we shouldn't always see rachel as a sex-hungry monster. she has her moments, yes. but we as players have a choice. if we don't like her, we can't desire her. even if she should annoy someone.

and who knows, maybe she'll develop into a heartbreaking character in the future. but i think she'll keep her hard shell for a while, which the mc has to crack first.
I don't see her as a monster. I am not sure what she is. I mistrust her. My problem is not Rachel per se. It is the reaction from the MC regarding her. I don't admire her, please MC do the same.
And if her shell cracks, and I am on Mia's route because of her shell, can we switch back? Again, you don't have to answer that. I don't want to be spoiled. You know, we have made decisions already.
What I liked and was really the best moment in this chapter for me. Was his reaction to her nude breasts. (How unimpressed he was.)
I love that reaction. That's the first time I really said to myself. Yes Nice. I laughed at that. I love dry humor.

I am eager to see how this unfolds, but it seems I have to be more patient. And I will.

Wish you success and have a good time.
 
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Glad you take it that way. Green behind the ears we use here as well.
Could it be we are from the same country?;)

Let's have a little Fan talk, then. That's always nice.



I know and believe me, I would feel the same. In my Job I make mistakes too or things don't work out like I have planned.
How we deal with it makes us the Person we are.
I remember an Expression from my Grandma: "Wem die Küche zu heiß ist, der sollte nicht zum Koch werden." --> "If the Kitchen is too hot for you, you should become a cook."

F95 is a Hot kitchen but on the other side Patreon or Discords are like bubbles with zero to nothing critical there. I think the truth lays in the middle.

You can handle it! I am sure.



I think that's the way. At last, that's what my literature teachers back in the days always have taught me.

"XY, we are now on page 4". Why did your characters do what they do? I did hate school.;)

You should stick to your plan, of course. The Danger is the so-called "writer's bias". I don't know how it is called in English. You as writer know what will happen. The story lays in front of you. We as player have no idea. For you, everything makes sense. For us, not so much or not at all. For you, Rachel is a loveable person. For us not. We haven't seen that yet.

We see the world as MC. We are in his head. Some are only readers. Some are gamers. Gamers want to immerse themselves. I don't talk about realism, no. It's a Porn erotic game. I want sex and I knew stuff go wild pretty fast. But believability is the core. Which leads to...



We only can judge what we have seen so far. Can we?

You say we should make a decision on her later. The Problem is, we made our decision in game already. Do you plan a way back? Don't answer. Don't spoil it, just take it in consideration.


I don't see her as a monster. I am not sure what she is. I mistrust her. My problem is not Rachel per se. It is the reaction from the MC regarding her. I don't admire her, please MC do the same.
And if her shell cracks, and I am on Mia's route because of her shell, can we switch back? Again, you don't have to answer that. I don't want to be spoiled. You know, we have made decisions already.
What I liked and was really the best moment in this chapter for me. Was his reaction to her nude breasts. (How unimpressed he was.)
I love that reaction. That's the first time I really said to myself. Yes Nice. I laughed at that. I love dry humor.

I am eager to see how this unfolds, but it seems I have to be more patient. And I will.

Wish you success and have a good time.
We know pretty much close to nothing about all these woman. This is how I see it and it's based on my life exp being almost 50.
Rachel is a strong woman and comes of as a predator. She can have a great heart and being good but it's not for me no matter what she will do for the rest of the game. She ignored Mias interest on MC so she comes first...
The pizza girl well, she's "fast" and "bi". No thanks.
Carmine, another cougar, good for some "risky" fun and nothing else. We know close to nothing about her besides the store "incident".
Carmine's daughter apparently is shy and lacks strength. No thanks. Practically impossible for me as player to change my mind here.
Ash well, I'm gona have to say that exhibitionism doesn't do it for me. Besides that I know close to nothing about her to consider her for a LIs. She isn't totally out of the picture... for an eventual latter playthrough... She's a side girl.
Mia, she seems sweet. She moved. Had some romantic stuff with MC but besides that... So far the only LI for me mostly because of this picture and because I'm a romantic.
Mia.jpg

Maybe I forgot some stuff but it sums it for me. Could be "worse" as I play many of these with no LI and just for the story. I'm here 99% for the stories. Porn one can find anywhere.

P.S. All woman besides Rachel and Mia are side girls at this point.
 

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I think this is just a misconception from earlier on. The game has influence from My Sweet Neighbor that I think includes a MalePC meeting his neighbors who is a hot mom and her daughter.

In WoS, your neighbors are a hot woman (Rachel) and her niece (Mia) who just moved in her from the East Coast.
I get it, but from the devs original post on Incest, they specify that they talked to patreon about the inclusion and they thought against it. There was originally gonna be some in this game, but patreon got in the way. I'm not trying to gaslight here. Just thought that it could be added one day with some help from their friends ;)
 
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Havik79

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This game makes me understand bipolar people a lot better, from going from good scenes with Mia, to annoying shit with bitchy old bags, to the sheer retardedness of a mother just stopping and holding her hand over her daughter's eyes while a car is about to hit them, just so you can push them out of the way, get hit by said car, and not go to a hospital, just go to a cafe and get sucked off by a chick who 5 minutes ago hated your guts.

The whole car thing was an apt metaphor for this update, started out nice and wholesome and ended up fucked.

That was the dumbest thing I have seen since that 12-year-old dev with the stupid frog and his hatred of ntr stupid game.
 

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i think mia can bring to the game be some excellent spicy and developpment in the story

it will be good if the mother caractere s will be more developped, alos some tease with the other girl, that means something turn like harem..

Could be possible a mother / daughter lesbian path ;)
 
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i think mia can bring to the game be some excellent spicy and developpment in the story

it will be good if the mother caractere s will be more developped, alos some tease with the other girl, that means something turn like harem..

Could be possible a mother / daughter lesbian path ;)
There is a harem path that started in Chapter 6, so be on the lookout for that.
 
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