Others Winter Warmth [2024-12-24 TEST] [PowerPlower]

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arone tajhiri

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Nono, he's saying no one lobbied for Godot, which is true. That's entirely consistent with your remark of "some demanding renpy". Besides, he didnt switch to gadot for mechanical advantages, he switched to monetize gameplay features without easy player modification which renpy allows for.

If after all this time, the game is back to square one, I think that sufficiently answers whether it's a worthwhile direction.
the irony is that more ppl would have played and supported it if this was in renpy
personally, the only drawback I see is the engine being godot
 

TheBigWater

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the irony is that more ppl would have played and supported it if this was in renpy
personally, the only drawback I see is the engine being godot
That's partially true. They don't want to support it because it's in Godot,they don't want to support it, because development time of this game is absolutely huge and game at last 5releases was bugged as hell
 
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Eleanorduval

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That's partially true. They don't want to support it because it's in Godot,they don't want to support it, because development time of this game is absolutely huge and game at last 5releases was bugged as hell
i saw it in dev note WARNING THE TEST BUILD MAY HAVE BUGS.
yeah the wait time are too long
 
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ilkit1234

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Not only the wait time or the engine is the problem imo...

For me the biggest problem is that the story doesn't move FORWARD... They are alway rewriting chapter one and two. I don't understand how they expect anyone to support them like this
Agreed. The story and the main characters always take a back seat in development. After years of development, if you removed the sandbox, you'd probably have 20 minutes of content.

However, the dev is very honest and open. He doesn't lie or stretch development windows to hold subscribers. He has even offered refunds to subscribers at multiple points.
 
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Sedid

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I'm a little sad that the developer didn't stick with Ren'Py's engine.

If he had, I'm pretty sure the game would have had faster updates and few or no bugs, which also means more fan support.

When this game started with Ren'Py, for me it had the potential to become a top-tier game.
 

Jstforme

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There always seems to be a problem with this dev team. June last year their other game Karma was to be released with an all-new makeover to the story, then an update tweaking the start of this game after that. Here we are nearly a year later from those announcements with nothing updated at all. I was on their discord for a while till I made some comments on the screwed up random engine they have for events triggering....can go for months *in game time* without the next event ever triggering, even with the extreme patience required to get all the side stuff completed in order to get the next event to trigger in the first place. They kicked me from Discord for pointing out their flaws.
 

ilkit1234

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There always seems to be a problem with this dev team. June last year their other game Karma was to be released with an all-new makeover to the story, then an update tweaking the start of this game after that. Here we are nearly a year later from those announcements with nothing updated at all. I was on their discord for a while till I made some comments on the screwed up random engine they have for events triggering....can go for months *in game time* without the next event ever triggering, even with the extreme patience required to get all the side stuff completed in order to get the next event to trigger in the first place. They kicked me from Discord for pointing out their flaws.
Totally forgot that there was a huge lag in development because they were redoing Karma. That obviously didn't materialize.

I think the dev keeps doubling down on the engine and the sandbox grind, trying to prove that it is a good idea. But each time he does a new public release, people hate it. So instead of simplifying things and focusing on the story, he just goes back to adding even more features that destroy the gameplay and make it impossible to do anything. It's been a constant loop.

I also believe that someone was kicked from the team because they were writing a bunch of bad code.
 

En

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APRIL 7th Update
This will be a short one. As the actual changes can still be found in the changelog site - which has been updated today.
So this is mostly about development. I am currently working on cross checking all events not only with the initial plan, but also with the renders we've had. So yes, the editing has finally begun.
Editing is a bit more than just checking events, it's also about ensuring that the flow works, that the connections are done. If there are any inconsistencies.
At this point, the number of events in the first chapter with the characters I have done this already are:
Ava 21
Melissa 34
Amelia 20
Mina 29
This doesn't include interactions, actions or the new "climate" type of events and might also not be the final number. Though if changes are happening, it's likely that the count will increase, rather than shrink.
Climate events are non interactable events. They are transparent on the map. One example would be if someone is in the shower and has locked the door. Another one would be sleeping in their room with a locked door.
You will have seen most of the events in previous builds at some point, but there are also new ones. We are currently working on stat based events for Melissa/Ava/Amelia. Also Shray gets at least 2 new Wednesdays, both with flashbacks.
As soon as I am finished with editing, I'll head back to coding, to polish the existing and new features. When that is done we'll start making testbuilds to see what we need to fix. As many things have been added & modified through the last months. I expect the first test build to be rather rough and it needing some love. When it had that, we'll release for the platinum members.
After Platinum has tested and given feedback, we'll release for Gold and Silver.
But until then there is still work to be done.
Have a great month,
Eon
 

penis228228

Formerly 'penis2281488'
Aug 20, 2023
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APRIL 7th Update
This will be a short one. As the actual changes can still be found in the changelog site - which has been updated today.
So this is mostly about development. I am currently working on cross checking all events not only with the initial plan, but also with the renders we've had. So yes, the editing has finally begun.
Editing is a bit more than just checking events, it's also about ensuring that the flow works, that the connections are done. If there are any inconsistencies.
At this point, the number of events in the first chapter with the characters I have done this already are:
Ava 21
Melissa 34
Amelia 20
Mina 29
This doesn't include interactions, actions or the new "climate" type of events and might also not be the final number. Though if changes are happening, it's likely that the count will increase, rather than shrink.
Climate events are non interactable events. They are transparent on the map. One example would be if someone is in the shower and has locked the door. Another one would be sleeping in their room with a locked door.
You will have seen most of the events in previous builds at some point, but there are also new ones. We are currently working on stat based events for Melissa/Ava/Amelia. Also Shray gets at least 2 new Wednesdays, both with flashbacks.
As soon as I am finished with editing, I'll head back to coding, to polish the existing and new features. When that is done we'll start making testbuilds to see what we need to fix. As many things have been added & modified through the last months. I expect the first test build to be rather rough and it needing some love. When it had that, we'll release for the platinum members.
After Platinum has tested and given feedback, we'll release for Gold and Silver.
But until then there is still work to be done.
Have a great month,
Eon
thx
 

ilkit1234

Newbie
Aug 12, 2022
37
121
APRIL 7th Update
This will be a short one. As the actual changes can still be found in the changelog site - which has been updated today.
So this is mostly about development. I am currently working on cross checking all events not only with the initial plan, but also with the renders we've had. So yes, the editing has finally begun.
Editing is a bit more than just checking events, it's also about ensuring that the flow works, that the connections are done. If there are any inconsistencies.
At this point, the number of events in the first chapter with the characters I have done this already are:
Ava 21
Melissa 34
Amelia 20
Mina 29
This doesn't include interactions, actions or the new "climate" type of events and might also not be the final number. Though if changes are happening, it's likely that the count will increase, rather than shrink.
Climate events are non interactable events. They are transparent on the map. One example would be if someone is in the shower and has locked the door. Another one would be sleeping in their room with a locked door.
You will have seen most of the events in previous builds at some point, but there are also new ones. We are currently working on stat based events for Melissa/Ava/Amelia. Also Shray gets at least 2 new Wednesdays, both with flashbacks.
As soon as I am finished with editing, I'll head back to coding, to polish the existing and new features. When that is done we'll start making testbuilds to see what we need to fix. As many things have been added & modified through the last months. I expect the first test build to be rather rough and it needing some love. When it had that, we'll release for the platinum members.
After Platinum has tested and given feedback, we'll release for Gold and Silver.
But until then there is still work to be done.
Have a great month,
Eon
No mention of any new content being added other than some minor stat based events and two with Shray that are literally like 5 renders? No actual plot development. So it's just further development on the sandbox.

Why the obsession with new features!? It's like "oh, no one likes these sandbox grind features? I'll just add more!"
 

E_O_N

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No mention of any new content being added other than some minor stat based events and two with Shray that are literally like 5 renders? No actual plot development. So it's just further development on the sandbox.

Why the obsession with new features!? It's like "oh, no one likes these sandbox grind features? I'll just add more!"
Do not despair, I decoded your message.
 
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