lordtoto

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As has been said before but: This game is mostly a "clusterfuck with potential".
It has good art in several places (the constant copy pasting of vulva gets tiresome though.) And several parts are pretty solid.
But: It seems to have no clue what it wants to be. It has already shifted theme for Elyon (but only Elyon) several times.

Most of the game is a rape simulator where you play Gary Stu, that can't fail or have setbacks.
But then it suddenly tries to be a dating sim. But then it changes its mind again and is a trainer game. Then it's suddenly a harem game. Then it changes to a collection/grind game. And so on and so forth.

Not to mention, it's a constant split of "I have seen the show/read the comic" and "I haven't seen the show/read the comic." along with "That never happened." and "That happened.". Each character lives in a bubble. That is completely unaffected by what every other character does. Until it doesn't. And they suddenly react to another event. Or they go from knowing about a thing/being IC, to suddenly no longer knowing that thing. Or being OOC so that "the porn can happen".

To sum up the above, I can basically summarize the game with the following example: "Oh no! Alchemy is raping Phobos and Vathek, at the same time! - But... isn't Phobos like, super powerful and could stop that with a wave of his pinky? And, isn't Vathek super strong and could easily overpower her? Not to mention: She's just some human girl without powers? - Well... yes, but: Actually no. Since: Otherwise the porn can't happen."

And that's basically it. "So the porn can happen" is practically this game's tagline.
I honestly have no clue what this game is trying to be. Since as said: It often ignores being a WITCH game in favor of porn. But then it turns around and tries to have a story. Just to throw that out the window for random snuff/rape. As many have stated: The game flip flops between over the top grim/non-con just to flip back and try to have some romance/comedy. It honestly feels a bit like the game suffers to having no real direction along with a "sunk cost fallacy".
I think it could benefit from taking a step back, and trying to figure out what the creator is actually after. Or consulting a writer. Since at this point, this game is basically 8 games in one. At least 3 of which, aren't really compatible with the rest.
I completely agree, the "constant split" bother me a lot... In my case I wish they would just be more faithful to the comics; I mean it is not like they lack source material on that part! a fan-fiction of course but let us be coherent with original material!

And another thing, please let us have some sort of “love/redemption route” versus “corruption route”, other games have done that and I believe this game in particular would greatly benefit from it! It would be so interesting!!!
 

Aazkaal

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I seem to be missing image 27 in the gallery. It's the only one not there so no idea how to get it
Every version has single image which only gets unlocked if you fail plot-critical battle while on Earth. It's the same (non-pornographic) image every time, and involves main character being punished for his failures. As far as I remember, it's almost always under that same number in the gallery.
 

Kattlarv

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I completely agree, the "constant split" bother me a lot... In my case I wish they would just be more faithful to the comics; I mean it is not like they lack source material on that part! a fan-fiction of course but let us be coherent with original material!

And another thing, please let us have some sort of “love/redemption route” versus “corruption route”, other games have done that and I believe this game in particular would greatly benefit from it! It would be so interesting!!!
The main divide is that they take parts from the comic... then ignores the rest.
Like: All the girls have been blackmailed in the comic. Even kidnapped.
Their response in rough terms? "Kiss my ass!"

Yet in this, they are complete pushovers, have no spine and NEVER talk to each other.
And, just to comically exaggerate: "Hey girls... some guy picked on me in class... - Let's go fucking gangrape him until he begs for mercy." yet, in this game: "Huh, I got raped by this guy and he murdered someone I loved... best keep quiet about it and be obedient."

I wouldn't mind if the game just sticks to a corruption route. But: Just stop throwing in 82 other routes meanwhile, and stick to the guns. Like... why do we need to be a trainer game with a sex dungeon and slaves? That's not the game that's advertised.
Or you know: Characters like Blunk, with a strong moral compass. (I know he's a thief. And constantly steals. But he is still the classic "thief with honor".) Here he folds like a wet blanket because a person he hates with an intense passion offers him a sex slave?)

And as said: Cedric can never "fail" either. It would be a much better counterbalance if you can get fucked by being too arrogant (which, is his downfall repeatedly in the comic+cartoon) It just feels stupid that, playing as a sociopath, murdering rapist, you are treated with silk gloves. Like... what? There's no "risk/reward" to it when nothing in the game is allowed to harm you. Per se. Just for example, to take from the comic+cartoon. Say you rape Irma and kill her dad. And do jack shit to hide the evidence. Irma shows up and just fatalities your ass by ripping all your blood out through your mouth. Or dick, for poetic justice. (To reference how she kills the plant monster. As she can canonically control the blood in someone's body.) Just an example: But that would be a very good "We're not messing around." If you want to go grim: Go all in. Don't pussyfoot around not being willing to hurt Cedric. He doesn't play fair. Neither does the guardians if given the chance.
 

BsGoat

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Feb 1, 2019
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I'm stuck after the news about Irma got printed in the school paper and the fight after that... I can't seem to progress any further from there, she is not in the dungeon or anything else? Is this the end of the current game or is my game stuck, in that case how do I unstuck it? just restart?
Edit: me not reding the text it says it's the end sorry
 
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Improdigal

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Dec 27, 2018
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I thought this was kinda boring game....HOW WRONG I WAS, this is a masterpiece, the pictures are very detailed and well drawn, good trama in summary a very good game.
Yeah it's actually a lot better than i thought it would be going into it. All we're waiting on now are the devs to see the rest
 

Rising_Hell

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I have asked this question because I'm sorry for asking this again. I'm dumb.
But how familiar would you have to be with the source material to understand the game properly?

For instance when I played Four Elements I had little to no knowledge on the Avatar world. But j had not trouble keeping up with the story and characters. I eventually watched Avatar and now really enjoy the story of the game.

For this however I have never heard of the show/comic this game is a parody of and to be fair I don't think I'll enjoy it that much. Not big on Shoujo/magical girl theme. Not my cup of tea.

I'm just curious if I can keep up with the story and characters without any prior knowledge.
 

Kattlarv

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I have asked this question because I'm sorry for asking this again. I'm dumb.
But how familiar would you have to be with the source material to understand the game properly?

For instance when I played Four Elements I had little to no knowledge on the Avatar world. But j had not trouble keeping up with the story and characters. I eventually watched Avatar and now really enjoy the story of the game.

For this however I have never heard of the show/comic this game is a parody of and to be fair I don't think I'll enjoy it that much. Not big on Shoujo/magical girl theme. Not my cup of tea.

I'm just curious if I can keep up with the story and characters without any prior knowledge.
I can say: It's pretty irrelevant. As, similar to Four Elements: Neither really gives a shit about the source material.
Both include a reference here and there. But you can basically go in blind for both.
Both have the "Oh, I know that one reference!" moments. But, yeah: Both regularly ignore IC "so porn can happen". So you should be fine. You just get some more context in that: You basically recall them as cameos rather than new characters. (Like: "Oh, that's the shape shifter dude." or "That's the fire one." and if lucky: They might actually do something correlating to that.)

I've personally yet to come across a porn game that "required" to have seen the show it is based on. As most are at best "loosely based" on the source material.
(The above applies to nearly all porn games. I just mentioned those two since they were referenced.)
 

Rising_Hell

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I can say: It's pretty irrelevant. As, similar to Four Elements: Neither really gives a shit about the source material.
Both include a reference here and there. But you can basically go in blind for both.
Both have the "Oh, I know that one reference!" moments. But, yeah: Both regularly ignore IC "so porn can happen". So you should be fine. You just get some more context in that: You basically recall them as cameos rather than new characters. (Like: "Oh, that's the shape shifter dude." or "That's the fire one." and if lucky: They might actually do something correlating to that.)

I've personally yet to come across a porn game that "required" to have seen the show it is based on. As most are at best "loosely based" on the source material.
(The above applies to nearly all porn games. I just mentioned those two since they were referenced.)
I just wanted to be sure about it. I was a bit lost during the CH1 of Four Elements but eventually got the general gist of it. By CH3 I started watching the show and then revisiting the previous chapters especially CH2 since it was the amnesia one made so much more sense. Just wanted to have a clear idea.
Def gonna jump into this one. Thanks for the help.
 

Kattlarv

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I just wanted to be sure about it. I was a bit lost during the CH1 of Four Elements but eventually got the general gist of it. By CH3 I started watching the show and then revisiting the previous chapters especially CH2 since it was the amnesia one made so much more sense. Just wanted to have a clear idea.
Def gonna jump into this one. Thanks for the help.
Np.
But yeah, IC is basically as thrown out the window as in Four Elements.
In there, you at least have an options between "Nice guy" and "rapist". Even if also the kinda "Can't fail Gary Stu" OC.

In this: Do know there's no choices. It's just very... all over the place. You go from a rape-murder. To trafficking, to ... randomly trying to have a sensual romance? It has some nice scenes. But it's also very directionless.
I can recommend reading some reviews. Like, I'd recommend with any game on here tbh :p
 
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YoraeRasante

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Actually FET is much more into the canon than this one.
Sure, the happenings in there don't change the canon... in most paths, or it can be twisted to fit. In fact, canon being mostly unchanged is kind a requirement for books 3 and 4.
But it still addresses many canon points, and while the writing is good enough you don't need to know the canon it is clear for those who know it is there in the background. Especially on the Love routes, which focus on character development.

This one... not so much.
As you said, this one is more design and a point here and there that takes from it, but mostly it is its own story.
 

yslwdg

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May 8, 2020
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I am kinda trapped on some quests cuz I dont know how to play the board game and beat Gerald.... I looked into all the walkthroughs I could find but none of them tells u how to play can someone explain to me how does it work?
 

YoraeRasante

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it is kinda like poker. try to get as many of the same number as you can, for example two threes and three fives. trios are better than duos, but I don't remember about a trio versus two duos. anyway, if the same number the value is the most important. and you can reroll the die once, even every die as long as you thing it is better, but so can you opponent.
I found it pretty interesting after finding out how it works, I may try it with friends in real life when I can
 

yslwdg

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May 8, 2020
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it is kinda like poker. try to get as many of the same number as you can, for example two threes and three fives. trios are better than duos, but I don't remember about a trio versus two duos. anyway, if the same number the value is the most important. and you can reroll the die once, even every die as long as you thing it is better, but so can you opponent.
I found it pretty interesting after finding out how it works, I may try it with friends in real life when I can
Once you have the dices how does the transfer thing works?
 

YoraeRasante

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you'll throw the dices, and you'll se them in their first roll. Then you select the ones to reroll and click on the button
well, in version 8.1, didn't try the 9 yet
 
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