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tried using a save editor to change all the exp to 90 and it doesn't work anymore. anyone know what happened? the saves are showing up but not letting me open them.
 

mofu2x

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Saw the dev has been having framerate problems. I hope he's not going through with the port to Unity since the actual problem is almost certainly how his AI works. AI is expensive in general and vision checks are particularly expensive. The standard way of solving this is to just run the expensive logic less because you don't really need to run it every frame.

Standard tricks:
  • Don't spawn all enemies on the map at once. Wait until the player gets close. (This gets tricky with patrolling enemies, but there are stationary ones that can benefit from this).
  • Disable/simplify logic of far-away AI.
  • Don't run expensive logic like pathfinding and vision checks every frame. Instead randomly run them every 0.1 to 0.3 seconds. (It needs to be random per AI to space the cost out evenly.)
  • Compare distance to the player squared against sight range squared because finding the exact distance requires a square root and that's expensive.
 

Diamona

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mofu2x Is the dev working completely solo, or do they have a community that develop games to ask for help on matters? I mean, couldn't you message that directly to the developer in their discord or something?
 

Cerneu

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Saw the dev has been having framerate problems. I hope he's not going through with the port to Unity since the actual problem is almost certainly how his AI works. AI is expensive in general and vision checks are particularly expensive. The standard way of solving this is to just run the expensive logic less because you don't really need to run it every frame.

Standard tricks:
  • Don't spawn all enemies on the map at once. Wait until the player gets close. (This gets tricky with patrolling enemies, but there are stationary ones that can benefit from this).
  • Disable/simplify logic of far-away AI.
  • Don't run expensive logic like pathfinding and vision checks every frame. Instead randomly run them every 0.1 to 0.3 seconds. (It needs to be random per AI to space the cost out evenly.)
  • Compare distance to the player squared against sight range squared because finding the exact distance requires a square root and that's expensive.
Dev's not gonna read it here. You'll have to contact him directly on Patreon or Discord.
 

ShinYstarxx

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May 1, 2021
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mofu2x Is the dev working completely solo, or do they have a community that develop games to ask for help on matters? I mean, couldn't you message that directly to the developer in their discord or something?
He has a friend who helps him, but only not in programming. Dev is doing code and his friend make h arts
 

ohsnapdragon

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Diamona

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Why don't we brainstorm ideas about how the AI could be fixed? It might be fun thinking about it.
I think there are issues with simply spawning them according just distance, since stealth games typically have guard in cycles that you need to dodge in between them. Having them simply spawn according to distance would lead to desynchronization of guard patrolling pattern timings.

I'm going to check out the game more to get a better idea of what's going on. I can only spitball general ideas about logic without having played it.
 
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kai123555

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Why don't we brainstorm ideas about how the AI could be fixed? It might be fun thinking about it.
I think there are issues with simply spawning them according just distance, since stealth games typically have guard in cycles that you need to dodge in between them. Having them simply spawn according to distance would lead to desynchronization of guard patrolling pattern timings.

I'm going to check out the game more to get a better idea of what's going on. I can only spitball general ideas about logic without having played it.
no point since the game is going to be made in a different engine.
 
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MadKitten

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Why don't we brainstorm ideas about how the AI could be fixed? It might be fun thinking about it.
I think there are issues with simply spawning them according just distance, since stealth games typically have guard in cycles that you need to dodge in between them. Having them simply spawn according to distance would lead to desynchronization of guard patrolling pattern timings.

I'm going to check out the game more to get a better idea of what's going on. I can only spitball general ideas about logic without having played it.
The guard cycles are indeed easy at start, but look into that captain assassination side quest from that redhead captain questline(Reynald i think his name is) that was added recently. There you have really tight guard cycles and spotlight system, which kinda proves that creator does invest his time into game mechanic creation. I think once u progress at end of his current content he gives you that quest, and you can go to forest area east from starting point and cave.
 

Under_Tides

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Nice. Thx for letting us know.

Here's a save on the h-test map for V0.7.9 — kind of a gallery feature in a way.
Zero game progression, but you can check new (and old) animations in the room.
Be careful though, that's a dev room and some of the interactibles will throw an error and close the game, or break it in some other way.
thanks
 

Delusion007

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Nice. Thx for letting us know.

Here's a save on the h-test map for V0.7.9 — kind of a gallery feature in a way.
Zero game progression, but you can check new (and old) animations in the room.
Be careful though, that's a dev room and some of the interactables will throw an error and close the game, or break it in some other way.
Just to expand on the warning here, I'll detail the interactables that you should be wary of. I'll identify them by row and position in which they appear from left to right. Each row represents a unique horizontal line of interactables:

row 8, position 8: Interacting with this will immediately throw an error and crash the game.
row 8, position 10 (last): Stepping in the tile in front of or behind the plant will immediately throw an error and crash the game.
row 9, position 1: Scene will play but after sends player back to main game.
row 12 (last), first position: Scene will play infinitely with art overlayed and there is no way to exit without quitting.
row 12 (last), second position: if you attempt to escape the grab, the game will throw an error and crash. Otherwise works fine.

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On a different note, I've enjoyed the game and the mature content so far, though if I could have an opportunity to request something, I would have loved to see her ears move during the animations as well - just slightly bounce during rapid movements, or twitching during climax. I feel it would really add life to the character and accent her animal features more.
 

XLuteX

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So Soon this Game won't be Playable on Joiplay anymore since it's going to switch to another Engine?
Btw I can't play it
 
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